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Would be hilarious if the Colts trade for him, using the 3rd round pick we gave them for Shitz, and he ends up sucking for them just like Matt Ryan.

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If we are trading for a QB, go get Love. He's young and has potential.. Stop getting washed up bums

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Looks like Howell will start per JP

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1334857]Looks like Howell will start per JP[/quote]

It's the only choice to make. Anyone else would just make Rivera look even more incompetent.

Hopefully he looks great. Would love to see him start next year and be able to build up the rest of the roster around him in the offseason.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1334856]If we are trading for a QB, go get Love. He's young and has potential.. Stop getting washed up bums[/quote]

It is a small sample size this year but he looks much improved from last year.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1334857]Looks like Howell will start per JP[/quote]

He better, of course can always change his mind

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1334860]He better, of course can always change his mind[/quote]

Ron is stubborn, he knows the media and fans have wanted SH for a while so he goes against that.. He's Old school and set in his ways. There is no way Howell or TH would have been that bad on Sunday but yet he stuck with 11 the whole fucking game

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I didn't see anything on JPs page but I hope that is correct. I don't care if he throws for 400 or 40 yards all I want to see is his game IQ and ability on display.

Side note: Anyone else notice the pictures of Sam Howell on google all look like he has permanent ski lodge face?

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1334863]I didn't see anything on JPs page but I hope that is correct. I don't care if he throws for 400 or 40 yards all I want to see is his game IQ and ability on display.

Side note: Anyone else notice the pictures of Sam Howell on google all look like he has permanent ski lodge face?[/quote]

Ok, Baltimore tell me what ski lodge face?

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You know the people that spend all day in the ski lodge wearing their apres sweaters. Typically have one eye opened wider than the other and puffy cheeks from spending an entire week of drinking instead of on the slopes.

Former Redskin great Rex Grossman was also a notorious rocker of the ski lodge face

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1334865]You know the people that spend all day in the ski lodge wearing their apres sweaters. Typically have one eye opened wider than the other and puffy cheeks from spending an entire week of drinking instead of on the slopes.

Former Redskin great Rex Grossman was also a notorious rocker of the ski lodge face[/quote]

That would be the life…lotta blondes, beers, the mountains…the lodges really ties it all together. Big fireplace, blondes, smell of wood burning, flannel.

I would go outside after burning 1 or 3 and just ride ski lift. Can you just stay on the lift continuously?

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I think you could get away with it about twice but a good idea

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1334857]Looks like Howell will start per JP[/quote]

I'm actually surprised. I think it's the only decision to make, but if Howell looks good against Dallas, that will blow up in Ron's face.

However, if he looks terrible it will validate why we haven't seen him to this point.

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A little bit of trivia on Howell, he's part Korean, it comes from his grandmother who is Korean.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1334870]I'm actually surprised. I think it's the only decision to make, but if Howell looks good against Dallas, that will blow up in Ron's face.

However, if he looks terrible it will validate why we haven't seen him to this point.[/quote]

I hope he balls out and crushes Dallas' chances of getting the east but at the same time it is less about stats this weekend and more about seeing his skills. I could careless if he goes 28 for 35 and 300 yards if they are all thrown off the back foot and check downs.

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1. Jordan Love
2. Will Levis
3. Sam Howell

These are the 3 QB's I'd take to start 2023 with.

I don't want Carr , Mayfield , StaFFORD ETC.

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I haven't seen anything from Jordan Love that makes me want him to come here.

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[quote=GridIron26;1334880]I haven't seen anything from Jordan Love that makes me want him to come here.[/quote]

I'd have him and Howell compete, stay with young guys that can actully grow with the organization. Stop getting old dudes

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Assuming Ron survives while ownership is in flux, shouldn't Dan make him trade all 2023 picks for 2024 picks? And prevent him from signing any big contracts? In likelihood this team will have a new name, mascot, GM, coach, and QB in 2024. And a new stadium in 2028.

Tell Ron to make do with Heinicke and Howell. Make him figure the rest out with short term contracts. Keep the staff since they are all gonna be packing in 2024.

Sell the next owners (and fans) on the idea they have a lot of resources available from 2024 on to improve the team immediately.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1334873]I hope he balls out and crushes Dallas' chances of getting the east but at the same time it is less about stats this weekend and more about seeing his skills. I could careless if he goes 28 for 35 and 300 yards if they are all thrown off the back foot and check downs.[/quote]

I'm not sure what to expect, or what to hope for.

I kinda expect him to be overwhelmed, but I do hope they allow him to show what he can do rather than just run the ball 50 times and throw 10 screens. That would defeat the purpose of him playing at all. Just give him a balanced game plan and see how he can execute it against a team that has everything to gain this weekend.

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[quote=BringBackBrunell;1334882]Assuming Ron survives while ownership is in flux, shouldn't Dan make him trade all 2023 picks for 2024 picks? And prevent him from signing any big contracts? In likelihood this team will have a new name, mascot, GM, coach, and QB in 2024. And a new stadium in 2028.

Tell Ron to make do with Heinicke and Howell. Make him figure the rest out with short term contracts. Keep the staff since they are all gonna be packing in 2024.

Sell the next owners (and fans) on the idea they have a lot of resources available from 2024 on to improve the team immediately.[/quote]

They wont do that because it essentially tells everyone to tank 2023 which I'd love for them to do and draft Caleb Williams but our luck Ron stays and TH gets us to 6 wins

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Taylor's an unrestricted FA this offseason. He probably won't be back...which is fine.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1334890]They wont do that because it essentially tells everyone to tank 2023 which I'd love for them to do and draft Caleb Williams but our luck Ron stays and TH gets us to 6 wins[/quote]

I disagree.
They will do that because it limits how much money Snyder has to pay out of his own pocket. He doesn't care about anything else.

It will be Heinicki and Howell next year with our lame duck coach.
Hopefully the owner can come in and at least extend Payne.

Next year is another shit show.
Best we can hope for is a new owner and that is fine with me.

When/If the team is sold, we should all meet in Vegas to celebrate.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1334877]1. Jordan Love
2. Will Levis
3. Sam Howell

These are the 3 QB's I'd take to start 2023 with.

I don't want Carr , Mayfield , StaFFORD ETC.[/quote]



Will Levis would be a massive mistake.

His first year at UK, he made his name throwing WR screen passes to Wandale Robinson, who routinely made huge gains.

This year, without Wandale, he was average ... at best.



Agree with you on Jordan Love, Sam Howell ... and not wanting anything to do with Carr, Mayfield, Stafford, etc.

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I'm not interested in trading anything for a Veteran QB - Jordan Love included.

Pick up a Veteran FA QB, and draft a rookie. Howell/Veteran/Rookie

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I can't wait till the schedule release in May to learn when we will get to see Tuddy again

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Fire Snyder. Get new owner. Fire coach/GM/scouting. Get new GM. Get new coach. Get new scouting.

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1334894]Will Levis would be a massive mistake.

His first year at UK, he made his name throwing WR screen passes to Wandale Robinson, who routinely made huge gains. [/quote]

A little context.

Levis also threw the ball 70 times less this year than last. His average per pass was higher this year (8.5) than last (8.0).

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[quote=NC_Skins;1334910]A little context.

Levis also threw the ball 70 times less this year than last. His average per pass was higher this year (8.5) than last (8.0).[/quote]


Levis is massively overrated.

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I haven’t watched tape on him yet but I plan on it this off season.

Arm talent jumps out at you. The ball flies out of his hand.

Kentucky also played some legit teams and it’s Kentucky…

Also remember, most said Herbert was overrated too.

It’s very hard to judge College QBs to NfL success


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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1334913]Levis is massively overrated.[/quote]

I agree. He's like Wentz in that he looks like a prototypical QB, and makes some plays that look great, but the non-great plays are no good.

If Howell didn't go back to school for 1 more year, he would have went in the 1st round EASILY. And his numbers from that last year were still good, even with losing guys.

Howell will have a better pro career than Levis imo.

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Man, CJ Stroud played well the other night.

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[quote=Chico23231;1334920]Man, CJ Stroud played well the other night.[/quote]

He's not gonna last until 14. Him and Young will be long gone before our pick.

Levis probably will too (I'm fine with that).

I don't see us taking a QB in round 1. Hopefully it's a CB1 or LT1 in the 1st round.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1334896]I'm not interested in trading anything for a Veteran QB - Jordan Love included.

Pick up a Veteran FA QB, and draft a rookie. Howell/Veteran/Rookie[/quote]

That suits me as well.

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There’s no reason to get a veteran QB.
7 or 8 win seasons kills our draft stock. Play a rookie till you get it right.

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[quote=jamf;1334925]There’s no reason to get a veteran QB.
7 or 8 win seasons kills our draft stock. Play a rookie till you get it right.[/quote]

Or a 2nd year player that only got 1 start his rookie season due to Heinicke doing just enough to kill our draft stock.

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Lol F U Ron. He’s starting TH this week per Keim.

What a fucking clown


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I'm not watching this week if Howell isn't playing.

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Agreed. This just validates that he's clueless as some have been saying. I've been trying to defend the man, but if this is true, it's plain idiotic.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1334891]Taylor's an unrestricted FA this offseason. He probably won't be back...which is fine.[/quote]

And yet he's the best QB we've had since Cousins. Seen this happen before and ironically when the team was last sold.