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How about if The Texans hire Flores who has a NE relationship with their GM, repairs the Deshaun Watson relationship and stays, making Davis Mills expendable. Wouldn't that be nice?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1307838]How about if The Texans hire Flores who has a NE relationship with their GM, repairs the Deshaun Watson relationship and stays, making Davis Mills expendable. Wouldn't that be nice?[/quote]

He's on a great contract for a QB, they shouldn't trade him, unless someone gives them a 1st. I personally don't want to give up a 1st for Mills.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1307839]He's on a great contract for a QB, they shouldn't trade him, unless someone gives them a 1st. I personally don't want to give up a 1st for Mills.[/quote]

Put it this way, Pickett, Corral, Howell will probably be 1st round picks, Mills in his 1st year is probably better than all 3 of them and has 1
Year experience under his belt with a shitty team. I would gladly give away our 1st.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1307841]Put it this way, Pickett, Corral, Howell will probably be 1st round picks, Mills in his 1st year is probably better than all 3 of them and has 1
Year experience under his belt with a shitty team. I would gladly give away our 1st.[/quote]

That's a more than fair opinion. And you could just as easily be right as I could be.

I don't want Pickett altogether.

And I'd rather have Corral or Howell more than Mills, personally. If either are available at 11, I'd take that risk.

I think Corral has more upside than Howell, but he's pretty small and plays like Heinicke (way more upside but similar). Howell is good but he's maxed out in terms of upside, but is more plug and play ready, with way less injury risk.

To your point, I'd rather have Mills, Howell, or Corral be our starting QB over Heinicke. Heinicke is a great No. 2, but let's get a possible franchise QB, and let him run with it.

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There you go, Culley fired opening the door for Flores going Houston, fix the Watson relationship (hopefully) and making Mills available.

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/texans-fire-david-culley-after-just-one-season-in-houston-becomes-sixth-head-coach-let-go-since-end-of-2021/?fbclid=IwAR0nsaClHqruHCOjCZpK70Iy5AmP9FBP8RfsyocSgcVB0ye--bIWxeMatGw[/url]

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I'd trade for Mills. I think we were interested in him when he came out.

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Mills had a good year and I’d certainly take him over what’s coming out.

Question is what u giving up? I think a teams like Minny, Pittsburgh, New Orleans would be very healthy competition. New Orleans is gonna make a big play for QB this off-season

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[quote=MTK;1307965]I'd trade for Mills. I think we were interested in him when he came out.[/quote]

Things might work out perfectly for Flores and Watson, thanks Dolphins!

Wonder if it would take a 1st now? Would definitely need to be a 2nd.

Of course all this assumes the legal stuff is resolved sometime soon. Really haven't seen any updates on that front.

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[quote=Chico23231;1307967]Mills had a good year and I’d certainly take him over what’s coming out.

Question is what u giving up? I think a teams like Minny, Pittsburgh, New Orleans would be very healthy competition. New Orleans is gonna make a big play for QB this off-season[/quote]

Our 1st that we would use on an unproven college QB, Mills was solid on a shitty team. If forced throw a 4th rounder and take my chances.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1307964]There you go, Culley fired opening the door for Flores going Houston, fix the Watson relationship (hopefully) and making Mills available.

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/texans-fire-david-culley-after-just-one-season-in-houston-becomes-sixth-head-coach-let-go-since-end-of-2021/?fbclid=IwAR0nsaClHqruHCOjCZpK70Iy5AmP9FBP8RfsyocSgcVB0ye--bIWxeMatGw[/url][/quote]

Houston's owner out here trying to compete with Snyder for leagues worst owner.

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Looks like things were a mess in many other ways in Houston:

@aaronjreiss
Nick Caserio was part of David Culley's practices and was on the headset advising Culley on game management. It'll be interesting to see if any of that changes with a new Texans head coach.

Context: Caserio is the GM in Houston.

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Hines Ward getting an interview with the Texans. Given his lack of coaching experience, is this just a nod to the recruitment rules, or has he got a legitimate chance?

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[quote=Ruhskins;1308016]Looks like things were a mess in many other ways in Houston:

@aaronjreiss
Nick Caserio was part of David Culley's practices and was on the headset advising Culley on game management. It'll be interesting to see if any of that changes with a new Texans head coach.

Context: Caserio is the GM in Houston.[/quote]

As long as Caserio and McNair run the show - that team will never compete for titles.

I saw a rumor that Watson and Flores are trying to go to the same team.

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[quote=mooby;1308076]As long as Caserio and McNair run the show - that team will never compete for titles.

I saw a rumor that Watson and Flores are trying to go to the same team.[/quote]


I'm curious - what is the connection between Watson and Flores? Without looking it up, I don't think Watson and Flores were together on a team in the past.

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Apparently Dan Quinn and Broncos is a thing…should be announced after the playoffs

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[quote=mooby;1308076]As long as Caserio and McNair run the show - that team will never compete for titles.

I saw a rumor that Watson and Flores are trying to go to the same team.[/quote]

What is the connection between Watson and Flores. I always thought Watson potentially going to Miami was just a Florida thing. I feel like the media is making more of a Watson/Flores connection than there really is. Am I wrong?


[quote=Chico23231;1308079]Apparently Dan Quinn and Broncos is a thing…should be announced after the playoffs[/quote]

I was hoping that would happen.

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Watson and Flores is just Twitter rumors for now... key words being for now.

[url]https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1480597264745775121[/url]

[url]https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1482433137019957251[/url]

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I just read one of the reasons Flores was let go was he would criticize Tua for his shitty work ethic and owner sided with Tua.
The Dolphins’ leader was unhappy to see his star passer on the golf course rather than in the film room on his days off. But when it came time to make a decision on the future of the organization, Miami stuck with Tagovailoa despite Flores leading the Dolphins to 19 wins over the last two seasons.

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[quote=Chico23231;1308079]Apparently Dan Quinn and Broncos is a thing…should be announced after the playoffs[/quote]

They called you and let you know, nice of them.

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[quote=Giantone;1308109]They called you and let you know, nice of them.[/quote]

Make sure you apologize to Chico when Quinn ends up in Denver. Pretty nervy to come here as a Giants fan and talk smack to one of our guys. Oh, almost forgot, not much to say about the Giants these days...

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1308155]Make sure you apologize to Chico when Quinn ends up in Denver. Pretty nervy to come here as a Giants fan and talk smack to one of our guys. Oh, almost forgot, not much to say about the Giants these days...[/quote]

LOL, I love the newbie's.

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And there goes Mayock. Not a massive surprise, and clears the way for a new GM and coach combo. Be interesting to see if Mayock is back on NFLN and especially the draft build up and coverage. "Well Mike, who do you think the Raiders should draft?"

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[quote=anonemouse;1308251]and there goes mayock. Not a massive surprise, and clears the way for a new gm and coach combo. Be interesting to see if mayock is back on nfln and especially the draft build up and coverage. "well mike, who do you think the raiders should draft?"[/quote]

lmao

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[quote=Giantone;1308207]LOL, I love the newbie's.[/quote]

Newbie here since 2007. Lol

There's gotta be something more useful for you to do on a Giant message board than to troll us here. Or maybe not...

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1308251]And there goes Mayock. Not a massive surprise, and clears the way for a new GM and coach combo. Be interesting to see if Mayock is back on NFLN and especially the draft build up and coverage. "Well Mike, who do you think the Raiders should draft?"[/quote]

Why would anyone listen to this overhyped clown, obviously he's a shitty talent evaluator.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1308257]Why would anyone listen to this overhyped clown, obviously he's a shitty talent evaluator.[/quote]

He's actually not that bad. more than half his draft picks have been productive players, if not stars (Jacobs, Crosby, Renfrow...). His swings and misses in LV have been on high picks and the AB car crash. On the latter, Arians took him to TB and had pretty much the same experience, so it's not all on Mayock. I'd say his primary flaws are in the business side of GM, not talent evaluation, but coupled with a few stinkers in the draft and the fallout over Gruden this result was probably likely. Whether he can be a GM elsewhere is an unknown, but I'd say his talent evaluation is at least better than average.

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1308256]Newbie here since 2007. Lol

There's gotta be something more useful for you to do on a Giant message board than to troll us here. Or maybe not...[/quote]

What's the name on the jersey of you avatar?

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[quote=Giantone;1308270]What's the name on the jersey of you avatar?[/quote]

Proud of our Redskins colors. Fan since '66. Here since May 2007.

Don't forget to apologize to Chico when the time comes...

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1308287]Proud of our Redskins colors. Fan since '66. Here since May 2007.

Don't forget to apologize to Chico when the time comes...[/quote]

You should be proud but I was asking you what is the name on the back of the Jersey you use as your avatar?


As for apologizing to chico , not in your lifetime or mine.

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1308287]Proud of our Redskins colors. Fan since '66. Here since May 2007.

Don't forget to apologize to Chico when the time comes...[/quote]

I agree.

G1, I think you need to create an Apology thread. You got 10-15 apology posts, with about half direct towards me. I’ll let you know if i accept. You can begin now.

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This thread about to turn into Black Tuesday.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1308318]This thread about to turn into Black Tuesday.[/quote]

I personally hope the Cowboys keep McCarthy for several more years. He did a fantastic job at the end of the game, and I applaud him trying to blame the refs for mismanaging the clock.

Bang up job ol' chap, now join us on the couch.

[IMG]https://frinkiac.com/img/S09E17/611026.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Chico23231;1308314]I agree.

G1, I think you need to create an Apology thread. You got 10-15 apology posts, with about half direct towards me. I’ll let you know if i accept. You can begin now.[/quote]

You going to apologize for all your stupid post about Biden or Fuaci or your love of Trump.........................? I won't hold my breath.,.......and he has a meeting set up with Miami and
[url]https://nypost.com/2022/01/19/giants-request-to-interview-cowboys-dan-quinn/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons[/url]

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He mentioned that too me^

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1484199854532345856[/url]

Gruden gonna reappear in Carolina? I think that would be a good hire

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Jay can put together an offense no doubt, especially a passing game.

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[quote=MTK;1308451]Jay can put together an offense no doubt, especially a passing game.[/quote]

I actually thought Judge should have brought him in instead of Garrett, he liked Jones and wanted to take him over Haskins.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1308257]Why would anyone listen to this overhyped clown, obviously he's a shitty talent evaluator.[/quote]

picking players is a very tough job. he picked some good ones and also had some bad ones. the very best guys had a lot of bad picks and he is no different.

however he is absolutely the best guy on tv when it comes to the draft. he was outstanding on NFL Network.

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I wish we hired Kevin O'Connell instead of Ron.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1308458]I wish we hired Kevin O'Connell instead of Ron.[/quote]

That’s what I was saying when Gruden was fired, him and Kyle Smith would have been the perfect combo.

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[quote=Chico23231;1308450]He mentioned that too me^

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1484199854532345856[/url]

Gruden gonna reappear in Carolina? I think that would be a good hire[/quote]

Carolina better be sure no more WFT emails will be leaked.
I don't believe that Jon didn't copy baby brother on some of those emails to BA.