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My buddies from NY went to the game that are Dallas fans.. they picked a good one


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I would like to see how we respond next week. This was a really difficult week and we had some guys out there that don't belong on an NFL field. The Eagles are going to try and run it right down out throats so let's see how they respond. Nothing to play for except pride.

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Doesn't matter who you have at QB as long as you have that turnstile OL that gives the QB 0.2 seconds to throw the ball.

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Temperature control benches look nice, tho

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[quote=FWD Skins;1305963]Doesn't matter who you have at QB as long as you have that turnstile OL that gives the QB 0.2 seconds to throw the ball.[/quote]

Yea the OL was pretty bad last night.

As stated, I did not expect to win. But I did not expect what was probably the most humiliating loss to Dallas ever.

Requiem for a crap year. :embarrass

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[quote=FWD Skins;1305963]Doesn't matter who you have at QB as long as you have that turnstile OL that gives the QB 0.2 seconds to throw the ball.[/quote]

Yeah, that's tough when you're on your fourth center and your third option at RG. The O-line have been pretty solid for the most part, but injuries are definitely catching up to them.

Heinicke wasn't under duress when he threw the ball right into Demarcus Lawrence's hands though, and with the first interception, he had time - just a bad throw to the inside - the only place the DB could have made a play.

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The OL has been top 10 all season.. Up until the last 2 weeks

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1305958]His play calling is limited because of what he has at QB.[/quote]

This is something a lot of folks don't understand. Play Calling is all on the personnel you have.. We have a weak inaccurate throwing QB with really only 1 true WR1.. The TE1 has been out all season and now your best pass catching RB is out. What else can Turner really do?

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Im not going to make too many long term observations from the past 3 games. Roster issues everywhere and no regimented practice or study time.

This team isnt this bad.

Boys stacked the box a lot, seemed like they were just trying to shoot gaps vs playing any run D.

This week should be our first "normal practice schedule" week since the 3 game losing streak started.

Finish the season competent. Call it a year.

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[quote=SunnySide;1305969]Im not going to make too many long term observations from the past 3 games. Roster issues everywhere and no regimented practice or study time.

This team isnt this bad.

Boys stacked the box a lot, seemed like they were just trying to shoot gaps vs playing any run D.

This week should be our first "normal practice schedule" week since the 3 game losing streak started.

Finish the season competent. Call it a year.[/quote]

I want to lose both games, no point in finishing 8-9.. 6-11 will get us a top 6 pick

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1305970]I want to lose both games, no point in finishing 8-9.. 6-11 will get us a top 6 pick[/quote]

Agreed ... but id like to see some healing out there.

Been a tough off field, injury, covid season. Glad we experienced some highs after that 2-6 start.

Perfect storm of fuckery.

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^^ my MVP. Glad he got some big Ws in during that 4 game win streak bc being there last night must have been brutal.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1305958]His play calling is limited because of what he has at QB.[/quote]

His options are run the ball with a RB leading the league in fumbles or a turnover prone limp noodle arm QB. It sounds like he picked his poison here

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[quote=GridIron26;1305957]I don't believe that Diggs can literally shut down McLaurin. This is 100% on Turner - his playcalling is terrible and predictable. This issue has a direct impact on McLaurin and the offense.[/quote]

McLaurin has beaten Diggs on a few plays this season, but our QB play is hindering McLaurin. Not to mention, I, similarly to yourself, isn't much of a fan of Turner.

First things first, put a solid QB with McLaurin and you'd see he would give Diggs crazy fits.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1305972]His options are run the ball with a RB leading the league in fumbles or a turnover prone limp noodle arm QB. It sounds like he picked his poison here[/QUOTE]


Yeah it’s not really easy to move the ball with that… and our offense shows. It’s one of the worst in football

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[quote=PorkSkins;1305976]McLaurin has beaten Diggs on a few plays this season, but our QB play is hindering McLaurin. Not to mention, I, similarly to yourself, isn't much of a fan of Turner.

First things first, put a solid QB with McLaurin and you'd see he would give Diggs crazy fits.[/quote]

It's hard to judge Turner when he's got limp wrist Heinicke throwing the ball and Fumbly Gibson running the ball. I know Gibby has fans here but I'm not one of them.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1305972]His options are run the ball with a RB leading the league in fumbles or a turnover prone limp noodle arm QB. It sounds like he picked his poison here[/quote]

Yep. It's all poison. But it begins and ends with the QB. There's no reason for teams to fear him whatsoever.

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Terry isn’t a True #1 WR. Even in college he was their #2 . He’s a great route runner and will go up and moss some folks but is he a consistent 8 catch a game guy? Like Adams, Cooper , Kupp etc? Probably not


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[QUOTE=PorkSkins;1305976]McLaurin has beaten Diggs on a few plays this season, but our QB play is hindering McLaurin. Not to mention, I, similarly to yourself, isn't much of a fan of Turner.

First things first, put a solid QB with McLaurin and you'd see he would give Diggs crazy fits.[/QUOTE]


Diggs isn’t a lockdown corner, he’s just a great athlete that could probably play WR too.
That pick last night was right in his hands, the ball has to be on the outside but again TH doesn’t have the arm to get it there.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1305981]Terry isn’t a True #1 WR. Even in college he was their #2 . He’s a great route runner and will go up and moss some folks but is he a consistent 8 catch a game guy? Like Adams, Cooper , Kupp etc? Probably not


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I don't like the way Turner is using him. If he is having some trouble w/ Diggs, which he was in the first game, then you put him on the move, give him some switch releases. Turner isn't doing any of that. Hell line him up in the back field and let him run some routes out of that kind of formation. Be creative. Turner isn't doing any of that stuff.

Yeah we were outmanned yesterday, but I thought Turner and Del Rio were just flat out garbage. Did Del Rio send any pressure? If you are outmanned then you come into that game and you throw everything you have at the other team. What do you have to lose? Instead they just sat there and got horse fucked. I didn't like what I saw at all from either coordinator. And Ron doesn't do shit except sit there w/ his arms folded.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1305968]This is something a lot of folks don't understand. Play Calling is all on the personnel you have.. We have a weak inaccurate throwing QB with really only 1 true WR1.. The TE1 has been out all season and now your best pass catching RB is out. What else can Turner really do?[/quote]

He can stop running short yardage plays out of shotgun!

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[quote=mooby;1305978]It's hard to judge Turner when he's got limp wrist Heinicke throwing the ball and Fumbly Gibson running the ball. I know Gibby has fans here but I'm not one of them.[/quote]

I’m with you. He gets yards because he gets a lot of touches but never breaks a play.
He’s a good quality version of McCaffrey.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1305984]I don't like the way Turner is using him. If he is having some trouble w/ Diggs, which he was in the first game, then you put him on the move, give him some switch releases. Turner isn't doing any of that. Hell line him up in the back field and let him run some routes out of that kind of formation. Be creative. Turner isn't doing any of that stuff.

Yeah we were outmanned yesterday, but I thought Turner and Del Rio were just flat out garbage. Did Del Rio send any pressure? If you are outmanned then you come into that game and you throw everything you have at the other team. What do you have to lose? Instead they just sat there and got horse fucked. I didn't like what I saw at all from either coordinator. And Ron doesn't do shit except sit there w/ his arms folded.[/QUOTE]


Agree with all of this.

JDR is fucking trash. He’s old and outdated in todays nfl. Bro this isn’t the 2000s where teams still run the ball all game. He never has any creative blitzes like Dallas does, and how the hell did we only have 10 players on the field multiple times with a lineman rushing from the sideline? Dude you get paid millions to be a coach, this isn’t some HS level shit.

Ron is a great leader but he’s a below avg coach. His resume speaks for itself. In 11 seasons as a Hc he’s had 8 losing seasons! 8! If he was any other coach he probably gets fired after this yr but Dan really can’t do that right now.

Very dissatisfied with this staff , they gave us all hope with those 4 wins but now we’ve gotten our asses kicked by the division 3 straight weeks. If it wasn’t for an offside we would be 0-4 vs the East.

That’s not good


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I think you have to give Del Rio a mulligan if you are referring to last night, the Front office/Ron did an awful job with our linebacker depth.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1305962]I would like to see how we respond next week. This was a really difficult week and we had some guys out there that don't belong on an NFL field. The Eagles are going to try and run it right down out throats so let's see how they respond. Nothing to play for except pride.[/quote]

It helps that Sanders might be out with a fractured hand.

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If Heineke plays like he has the last 2 weeks we ain’t beating Philly or NY

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[quote=JackLord;1305965]Yea the OL was pretty bad last night.

As stated, I did not expect to win. But I did not expect what was probably the most humiliating loss to Dallas ever.

Requiem for a crap year. :embarrass[/quote]

We need to draft an LT, Jay Leno is getting old and is inconsistent, people want to get rid of Scherff, yet he has 5 pro bowls to his resume and when he's not there, it is noticeable. We have lots of cap $$$, sign Scherff.

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You dont pay aging oft injured guards 18M plus per year.

When Schweitz was in, I thought he played as good or better than Scherff.

I wouldnt make any longer term decisions based off of what Ismael-charles-Cosmi looked like last night.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1305981]Terry isn’t a True #1 WR. Even in college he was their #2 . He’s a great route runner and will go up and moss some folks but is he a consistent 8 catch a game guy? Like Adams, Cooper , Kupp etc? Probably not


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I beg to differ. He's a #1 WR, and there's no debate. If he had Stafford, Rodgers, or Dak throwing to him he'd be a perennial pro bowler/All pro.

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[quote=SunnySide;1305992]You dont pay aging oft injured guards 18M plus per year.

When Schweitz was in, I thought he played as good or better than Scherff.

I wouldnt make any longer term decisions based off of what Ismael-charles-Cosmi looked like last night.[/quote]

Schweitzer is a career backup, nothing else, yes he's good but a full season starting might be different and he gets hurt too.

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McLaurin is a beast. Definite No. 1. And we better keep him.

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The biggest mistake Ron has made is he has not drafted a QB. He should have told Snyder to screw himself when it came to Haskins. He could have called up Gruden and had a long conversation about Haskins. Gruden knew he sucked but was forced to deal with him.

Ron should have drafted Tua or Herbert. End of discussion. Just cause Tua struggled w/ some injuries doesn't mean that will go on forever. Now look at what you have? No future QB going into the off season from year 2-3. To me that is inexcusable and stupid.

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[quote=SunnySide;1305992]You dont pay aging oft injured guards 18M plus per year.

When Schweitz was in, I thought he played as good or better than Scherff.

I wouldnt make any longer term decisions based off of what Ismael-charles-Cosmi looked like last night.[/quote]

Schreff is one of the best players at his position when he plays. I don't think giving him massive long term deal is smart but a one year deal is fine.

They paid Samuel and he literally never ever plays. Samuel isn't even a top 20 player at his position. He has never had a 1,000 season. I would much rather pay Scherff than Samuel.

Ron has a man crush on the guy or something. You DO NOT give gadget players big money.

Ron has already proven to me he isn't a GM. Most coaches aren't. Snyder needs to scrap this coach-centric bullshit. Ron just needs to worry about coaching the team.

A smart GM would have never signed Samuel in the first place. A GM with some brains and balls would have drafted a QB in 2020 and told the owner that his pick isn't NFL material. If you want a gadget guy then pay Cordarrell Patterson 3 million bucks on one year deals. . Hell that guy crushes Samuel.

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[quote=SunnySide;1305992]You dont pay aging oft injured guards 18M plus per year.

When Schweitz was in, I thought he played as good or better than Scherff.

I wouldnt make any longer term decisions based off of what Ismael-charles-Cosmi looked like last night.[/quote]

Agree. It’s not an impact position for this time right now.

Focus on Left Tackle future on Oline instead.

Obviously QB…add RB help. Access if Logan Thomas can come back healthy next year.

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I love Terry (just got his jersey) my favorite player so definitely not being negative on him.

QB
QB
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Ron today “not worried about our direction after one game”

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Ron Rivera says Washington will “probably” play Kyle Allen but Taylor Heinicke will start this Sunday vs Philly

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1305999]I love Terry (just got his jersey) my favorite player so definitely not being negative on him.

QB
QB
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Ron today “not worried about our direction after one game”[/quote]

Not worried…ok. I mean Im not worried, but ending the season like this is not a great statement especially against division rivals.

You should have the team up to fight against these guys.

The defense last 2 weeks…that’s fireable IMO. if a top notch Vic fangio-like guy becomes available you fire JDR immediately.

We are again in the “most injured team” in the league with a trainer under investigation by the dea.

We don’t have the answer at QB end of year two

Ron and all his fucking chefs better cook up a new plan this off-season

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How in the hairy hell Dainel Snyder is worth 4B dollars with the decisions he's made is fn unbelievable. Shit pants and clown shoes everywhere.

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The amount of disrespect shown by the Cowboys and refs will be remembered. Gregory laying on the floor with Heinecken after hitting him, Heinecken getting hit with crown of the helmet and McCain penalties. Total bullshit ref crew.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1305991]We need to draft an LT, Jay Leno is getting old and is inconsistent, people want to get rid of Scherff, yet he has 5 pro bowls to his resume and when he's not there, it is noticeable. We have lots of cap $$$, sign Scherff.[/quote]

The issue is he never plays 16 games but makes a lot of money. It's a tough spot but no doubt the line suffers when he is not in there. He is our best linemen.

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Oh, last thing, I know the benches thing is in all likelihood a Dan move, probably Ron has nothing to do with it... but... I want Ron to step up and say "Dan... hum... Miiister Snyder, this benches sh*t makes us look like petty childish morons trying to be like Jerry, sell em for whatever you can or put them on the deck of your yacht for cold Sicilian nights, but we're not flying them anywhere from now on."