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Hoop & Coop would be beyond radical.

Drake, meh. But AP has always been one of my favorites backs so there is some bias there.

What kind of contract does Drake expect?

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[quote=los panda;1245406]Hoop & Coop would be beyond radical.

Drake, meh. But AP has always been one of my favorites backs so there is some bias there.

What kind of contract does Drake expect?[/quote]

Derrick Henry will set the market... keep in mind Drake is 26 so he's not coming cheap

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Hoop/Coop/Terry/Sims/Guice/AD

Looks good

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[quote=los panda;1245406]Hoop & Coop would be beyond radical.

Drake, meh. But AP has always been one of my favorites backs so there is some bias there.

What kind of contract does Drake expect?[/quote]

4 years...20-23 mill-ish??

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[quote=MTK;1245403]Sounds like Drake wants to get paid... ARZ isn't typically known for dishing out big money but we'll see[/quote]

What's going on with David Johnson there? They gave him big money, and he's been quiet ever since....Is he hurt?

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[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28793123/sources-tom-brady-open-new-home-free-agency[/url]

It's going to be interesting if Brady goes to the Raiders. Aside from the Dolphins, they are the only team with enough resources to move up to #2, #3, or #4 to get Tua.

I highly doubt the Raiders would make such a move if they sign Brady (who has basically prevented the Pats from draft/groom his heir apparent for years). The Dolphins may be able to sit at #5 and still get Tua if this happens (unless the Lions take him).

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Brady would be a moron to go anywhere but NE

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1245416]Brady would be a moron to go anywhere but NE[/quote]

Why?

He's won a ton of Super Bowls with New England, while being underpaid. He chose to do this, but he was underpaid.

He explicitly changed his contract last year in order to hit free agency this year.

And if he has anything to prove to himself, is whether he can win without Belichick.

If he wants one last payday, I say go for it. Also, to me it will be a hell of a lot more interesting to see whether Brady can win without BB and vice versa, than seeing back in New England.

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Eli Apple, CB, 24 yrs old, 10th overall pick in 2016

PFF grade of 63.8

[I]If I were in the Saints’ front office, I’d set a low price for Apple and not budge. If he doesn’t quite get the suitors he expects in free agency, maybe he’ll settle.

Anywhere in the range of $4-6 million per year would be what I think Mickey Loomis and Sean Payton should offer Apple, with not much of an annual commitment. This send the message that they want him back, but aren’t going to splurge by any means.[/I]

[url]https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2020/1/23/21077778/should-the-saints-re-sign-eli-apple-free-agents-agency-janoris-jenkins-cornerbacks-off-season[/url]

6M for a young CB2 ... who may or may not pan out? I wouldnt be mad at it. I think we need to address CB, especially if Dunbar stuff goes sideways.

Did I mention hes young?

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Brady -- I think the LA Chargers HAVE to sign him. You are moving into a new stadium, youre the red headed step child of LA compared to the Rams ...

Brady marketing and merchandise would cover his salary and then some. If Im the owner, Id get involved there and make sure I can market and make some money.

Mcnabb light -- gotta make a move to sell hope ie tickets and jerseys

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Brady going somewhere else would be fascinating

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[quote=MTK;1245448]Brady going somewhere else would be fascinating[/quote]

Yup, we'd get to see who was the Batman and who was the Robin of perhaps the greatest sports duo of all time.

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[quote=SunnySide;1245460]Yup, we'd get to see who was the Batman and who was the Robin of perhaps the greatest sports duo of all time.[/quote]

*with a grain of salt

Brady will be 43 by the time the season starts, so while he's already the GOAT and the old-man Goat by extension, he's still not gonna be as fresh as he was at 23 or even 33. I'd say he's already the best over-40 qb statistically, but even so that doesn't mean father time hasn't started catching up to him.

I think he just wants to prove how capable he is without the coaching savvy of Belichick.

The other advantage Belichick has is he turned a guy in Matt Cassel (who was never worth a damn anywhere else) into an 11-5 winner the year Brady was out. So you can already give Belichick his due for surviving without Brady.

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1245422]Eli Apple, CB, 24 yrs old, 10th overall pick in 2016



PFF grade of 63.8



[I]If I were in the Saints’ front office, I’d set a low price for Apple and not budge. If he doesn’t quite get the suitors he expects in free agency, maybe he’ll settle.



Anywhere in the range of $4-6 million per year would be what I think Mickey Loomis and Sean Payton should offer Apple, with not much of an annual commitment. This send the message that they want him back, but aren’t going to splurge by any means.[/I]



[url]https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2020/1/23/21077778/should-the-saints-re-sign-eli-apple-free-agents-agency-janoris-jenkins-cornerbacks-off-season[/url]



6M for a young CB2 ... who may or may not pan out? I wouldnt be mad at it. I think we need to address CB, especially if Dunbar stuff goes sideways.



Did I mention hes young?



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Brady -- I think the LA Chargers HAVE to sign him. You are moving into a new stadium, youre the red headed step child of LA compared to the Rams ...



Brady marketing and merchandise would cover his salary and then some. If Im the owner, Id get involved there and make sure I can market and make some money.



Mcnabb light -- gotta make a move to sell hope ie tickets and jerseys[/QUOTE]Apple is a terrible corner.

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1245460]Yup, we'd get to see who was the Batman and who was the Robin of perhaps the greatest sports duo of all time.[/QUOTE]



Spoiler: they’re both great



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[quote=MTK;1245463]Spoiler: they’re both great



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Also, people forget BB has had a winning season without Brady (when Brady was out for the season with a knee injury). I think Brady can make a team like the Chargers or the Titans competitive right away.

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[quote=mooby;1245461]I think he just wants to prove how capable he is without the coaching savvy of Belichick.[/quote]

Not at all. This time, it's all about the money.

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Can't see Brady going to to the Raiders. As pointed out by their own staff Statistically Carr is a good QB. If there is a leadership question, maybe Brady helps but I doubt he'll be a statistical upgrade. I'd say Chargers far more likely while they bring on a rookie.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1245480]Not at all. This time, it's all about the money.[/quote]

Why not both?

Also you realize he's a trophy husband right, Gisele's career earnings make his look pedestrian.

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[quote=mooby;1245490]Why not both?

Also you realize he's a trophy husband right, Gisele's career earnings make his look pedestrian.[/quote]

How many NFL quarterbacks are out earned by their wife or girlfriend? Probably only Brady. Danica Patrick makes $$, but nowhere near what Rodgers does.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1245419]Why?

He's won a ton of Super Bowls with New England, while being underpaid. He chose to do this, but he was underpaid.

He explicitly changed his contract last year in order to hit free agency this year.

And if he has anything to prove to himself, is whether he can win without Belichick.

If he wants one last payday, I say go for it. Also, to me it will be a hell of a lot more interesting to see whether Brady can win without BB and vice versa, than seeing back in New England.[/quote]

If he wants to win, he stays. If its about $ then go ahead and leave and finish 8-8

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I really don't care what Brady does I just hate seeing legends in different uniforms at the end.

Monk in a Jets uniform sucked and Montana in a KC uniform sucked.

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Profootball Focus rated Carolina's CB Bradberry the biggest possible mistake in the secondary free agency class.

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[quote=Chico23231;1245498]Profootball Focus rated Carolina's CB Bradberry the biggest possible mistake in the secondary free agency class.[/quote]

He's not that good...

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The Chicago Sun-Times' Jason Lieser reports the Bears are planning to pursue impending free agent Austin Hooper.


26 in November and fresh off career-highs in catches (75), receiving yards (787), and touchdowns (6), Hooper's expected to garner anywhere from $10-$12 million annually on the open market — an amount Chicago may not be able to fork over with roughly $26 million in projected cap space to work with. Still, the interest is obviously there after the Bears saw Trey Burton and Adam Shaheen sit out a combined 15 games together due to injuries last year. General Manager Ryan Pace was also notably high on Hooper out of Stanford, regrettably selecting DL Jonathan Bullard (who the team cut last summer) only nine picks prior to the Falcons calling the tight end's name in 2016.

2nd time Ive heard the Bears connected to Hooper.

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I'm sure a few teams will be after him, he's young and a good TE. We need to have a backup plan

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[quote=mooby;1245490]Why not both?

Also you realize he's a trophy husband right, Gisele's career earnings make his look pedestrian.[/quote]

Haven't you noticed that many people, no matter how fabulously wealthy they may be, just can't have enough money to satisfy them? That's how the super rich keep score. Magazines like Forbes even post the scores annually.

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Brady and Bellicheck are just trolling everyone.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1245513]I'm sure a few teams will be after him, he's young and a good TE. We need to have a backup plan[/quote]

I'm sure we have or will have multiple scenarios in mind. The one thing we do know is that this offense must have competent TE play to function as designed.

Personally, I think that Ebron could help us just as much as Hooper could. Ebron has certainly scored a lot more TD's than Hooper.

Also, I'm not afraid of a trade for Hurst because I know for a fact that many people who were deeply depressed enough to attempt suicide can and do get better with the help of medicine and therapy. Also, Hurst is very talented, has been improving on the field, and I think all he needs is more opportunities to shine.

I think we'll also add a talented rookie TE via the draft.

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I'm a little lukewarm on Ebron. He would be my plan D.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1245536]Haven't you noticed that many people, no matter how fabulously wealthy they may be, just can't have enough money to satisfy them? That's how the super rich keep score. Magazines like Forbes even post the scores annually.[/quote]

I'm just disputing your "it's all about the money" angle.

Why can't it be about both the money and proving you can still be the GOAT without Belichick's help?

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So 20 years in and all of a sudden Brady is only about the money? Don't buy it. He's made about $235M in the NFL, he's hardly scrapping for a pay check.

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With a grade of just 50.6 in 2016, Detroit TE Eric Ebron ranked 49th in the NFL among tight ends.
[B]Ebron [/B]improved as a receiver in 2016 (72.3 receiving grade) but was [B]graded as the worst run-blocking TE in the NFL[/B] (29.6 run-blocking grade)
[url]https://www.pff.com/news/draft-eric-ebron-could-benefit-from-competition-in-detroit[/url]

Eric Ebron arrived in Indianapolis in 2018 and had an outstanding season, scoring 14 touchdowns and looking like one of the best tight ends in football. In 2019, things didn’t go as well, and in 2020, Ebron will be elsewhere.

When asked about Ebron today, Colts General Manager Chris Ballard said, “We’ll probably move on,” and then quickly moved on to the next question. Ballard’s curt tone made clear that he’s done with Ebron and doesn’t even want to talk about him anymore.

Ebron was less productive in Year Two in Indianapolis than he had been in Year One, and then [B]he surprised the Colts by telling them in November that he couldn’t bear the pain in his ankle anymore and needed to shut it down for the season. Ebron, who becomes a free agent in March, appeared to be making a business decision.[/B]
[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/02/colts-dont-want-eric-ebron-back/[/url]

Part of Reich's vision was to have Ebron do what he does best. That means playing maybe half the snaps, with an emphasis on third downs and the red zone. The Colts don't need Ebron on the field all the time because they have a Pro Bowl tight end in Jack Doyle, who is a better blocker.

"[B]I don't want [Ebron] to block 30 times a game[/B]," Reich says. "I don't think that's his strength. It's hard to have elite athletic ability and run the way he runs and also be an above average blocker. If you put Eric in the run game too many times, that's bad coaching. You will wear him down, take away his energy from the pass game. But[B] I'd like to ask him to block five or seven times a game [/B]and know I'm going to get a good effort and know he's going to do his job. He's shown a willingness to do that."
[url]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2806903-the-improbable-renewed-swag-of-eric-ebron[/url]

[url]https://prosportsextra.com/eric-ebron-too-lazy-to-block-once-again-colts-wont-resign-this-bum/[/url]

INDIANAPOLIS -- It was funny at first. [B]The quarterback and the offensive linemen all running around the locker room in their “Run the Damn Ball” hats[/B], as the team's pass-catchers laughed off the halfhearted questions.

Say, where’s your hat, Eric?

[B] "You'll never see that on me,” Ebron said with a grin.[/B]

[B]But now Eric Ebron isn’t smiling[/B]. At least not as much as he was last year when he led tight ends in touchdowns (14) and hauled in 66 passes for 750 yards on the way to his first Pro Bowl. Now, Ebron is getting frustrated. He wants the Colts to "throw" the damn ball, so he can “catch” the damn ball.
[url]https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2019/11/07/colts-dont-blame-eric-ebron-wanting-ball-team-not-listening/4101645002/[/url]

A couple weeks ago,[B] Boldin was on air and shared something about Ebron[/B]. After last season, [B]Ebron got in Boldin's face and talked shit to him because Boldin stole all of his redzone targets[/B]. Boldin responded that if Ebron were any good, Boldin wouldn't even have been there in the first place.

Here's the link. It starts at around 18:00

[url]https://www.podcastone.com/episode/2017-Week-5-Matchup-Podcast[/url]
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I want no part of a TE who doesnt block, missed meetings, didnt take things seriously, has been cut/not wanted by the 2 teams he has been on, demanded the ball and went some public with gripes this year then was targeted 12 times next game only to claim an ankle injury and shut it down this year bc it was a contract year.

Fuck that guy.

he sounds the complete opposite of a RR guy anyway.

Oh, and he talks and apparently bitches and moans a lot to the press and says, "thats just who i am, I speak my mind" .... fuck off man

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Good hopeful news .. PFF has him going to the Bears.
[url]https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2020/02/23/pro-football-focus-predicts-chicago-bears-sign-tight-end-eric-ebron-free-agency-2020/[/url]

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Ebron drops a lot of balls. I’d rather play the draft then spend money on Ebron. Ebron is only looking decent looking right now because the TE FA pool is so shallow.

Just because other teams want Hooper doesn’t mean we can’t get him. We have the sixth highest cap in the NFL. If we want Hooper we have a very good chance of getting him. There’s also Henry out there at the same level as Hooper.

Hooper and Henry are very good TE. We have a really decent chance of getting one of them in FA. I think we’ll draft with our third round pick at TE. Adding Hooper or Henry plus a good TE in the draft will repair the TE hole we have right now.


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[quote=SunnySide;1245315]Wow, I was wrong. i didnt think Hooper would be free. I knew they were in cap purgatory but their beat writers seems convinced they could make room for him.

Clear hurdle one. Now can we beat out NE and others while also not over paying?[/quote]

If we getting Hooper we overpaying. Sorry but theres going to be no way around it.

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[quote=MTK;1245554]So 20 years in and all of a sudden Brady is only about the money? Don't buy it. He's made about $235M in the NFL, he's hardly scrapping for a pay check.[/quote]

He sold the House in Boston and moved to Conn. I am assuming he wants to stay in the area of the North East. Bills don't need him ,nor the Jets or the Giants all have good young QB's that are learning and those teams don't need Brady's price tag .Sorry , I think he is staying and finishing with NE.

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[QUOTE=SkinzWin;1245593]If we getting Hooper we overpaying. Sorry but theres going to be no way around it.[/QUOTE]



And in 2 years his deal will be a bargain when TE’s are making $15M plus



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Ebron is trash. It’s paying top dollar for Hooper or Henry or drafting.

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[url]https://twitter.com/jpafootball/status/1233781727329472513[/url]

Bradberry seeking 15 mil/year.

That's gonna be a no from me dawg. I don't want him to be the second consecutive Carolina corner we overpay for.

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[quote=mooby;1245620][url]https://twitter.com/jpafootball/status/1233781727329472513[/url]

Bradberry seeking 15 mil/year.

That's gonna be a no from me dawg. I don't want him to be the second consecutive Carolina corner we overpay for.[/quote]

He’s def not a no1 corner.

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[quote=Chico23231;1245624]He’s def not a no1 corner.[/quote]

If anyone knows what Bradberry brings to the table, its RR. Having said that, $15 million seems way too much for him. If your going to spend that much, get the Dallas guy Jones.