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So if all Cooley said is correct then you have to wonder How good this team could be if all the players knew what the hell they were doing...hell we have a better record now than a lot of teams picked to go deep into playoffs ..the main reason Snyder will make changes is those empty seats ..my Christmas wish list is to clean house and hire a real GM to try and stabilize this ship..

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1213742]Keep talking about us old guys and I'll start a Norm Snead thread. That'll fix your wagon, you little whipper-snapper!

:joke:[/quote]

I remember Norm Snead with the Eagles. I am in my late 50's but I was watching sports when most kids were watching cartoons. I remember Sandy Koufax (I grew up in So Cal) pitching and he retired when I was 5.

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[quote=rocnrik;1213748]So if all Cooley said is correct then you have to wonder How good this team could be if all the players knew what the hell they were doing...hell we have a better record now than a lot of teams picked to go deep into playoffs ..the main reason Snyder will make changes is those empty seats ..my Christmas wish list is to clean house and hire a real GM to try and stabilize this ship..[/quote]

This roster isn't a loaded one by any means, still tons of holes especially on the Offense, I doubt any of that would all of the sudden make this team 13-3. Cooley likes to blab a lot about the team as does other former players. They act like when they were around the team was a dynasty or something.

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Per Wapo:
Colt McCoy (broken leg) is hopeful he can return for Week 17.

McCoy's season was thought to be over when he suffered a fractured fibula earlier this month, but he has resumed running and hopes to return for the season finale. Josh Johnson started at quarterback for Washington last week

If Josh Johnson can pull off a miracle and plays decent...Colt needs to stay on the bench

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[quote=Chico23231;1213757]Per Wapo:
Colt McCoy (broken leg) is hopeful he can return for Week 17.

McCoy's season was thought to be over when he suffered a fractured fibula earlier this month, but he has resumed running and hopes to return for the season finale. Josh Johnson started at quarterback for Washington last week

If Josh Johnson can pull off a miracle and plays decent...Colt needs to stay on the bench[/quote]

An actual functional coaching staff could do more with this year's starting roster. A staff that focused on training players on how to stay healthy and how to protect themselves could do more with this year's starting roster. A coach who doesn't pick players by loyalty but by ability could do a lot with this year's starting roster.

I often wondered why JG succeeded in Arena Bowl, and struggles here to get over 8-8, and I think the answer is that in the Arena League not all talent was high level, so you could keep your favorites while scheming to hide their defects.

Not so much in the NFL.

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9-7 is still on the table, for a team that's on QB #4 and guard #120 I'd say that's a pretty solid job.

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[quote=MTK;1213771]9-7 is still on the table, for a team that's on QB #4 and guard #120 I'd say that's a pretty solid job.[/quote]

Like I said if they go 9-7 no way u can fire Jay. Even 8-8 IMO.

Also speaking of QB in this thread, another guy that I believe teams will be calling for is Nick Mullens. He's not a eye popping QB but he does all aspects very well. I think he has a bright future

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1213773]Like I said if they go 9-7 no way u can fire Jay. Even 8-8 IMO.

Also speaking of QB in this thread, another guy that I believe teams will be calling for is [B]Nick Mullens[/B]. He's not a eye popping QB but he does all aspects very well. I think he has a bright future[/quote]

Since he was undrafted and waived twice can he just go to the highest bidder after his contract expires after next season?

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The problem with talking QB is we have decision makers who have proven to be completely inept at handling the position. We will continue to fuck it up until Bruce/Danny/FO change is made.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1213774]Since he was undrafted and waived twice can he just go to the highest bidder after his contract expires after next season?[/quote]

I was thinking a trade is possible for a low round pick.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1213727][/B]

Am I fucked up by knowing who that already is w/out having to Google? :embarrass[/quote]

No, congratulations for having a pulse and working wifi :laughing2

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1213773][B]Like I said if they go 9-7 no way u can fire Jay. Even 8-8 IMO.
[/B]
Also speaking of QB in this thread, another guy that I believe teams will be calling for is Nick Mullens. He's not a eye popping QB but he does all aspects very well. I think he has a bright future[/quote]

Honestly I'm not even sure of how much danger he's in right now... I suppose if the team just rolls over in these last 2 games the heat could turn up, but I'm thinking Jay will be back and Bruce is the one on the hot seat.

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[quote=MTK;1213778]Honestly I'm not even sure of how much danger he's in right now... I suppose if the team just rolls over in these last 2 games the heat could turn up, but I'm thinking Jay will be back and Bruce is the one on the hot seat.[/quote]

I'm fine with Jay staying if Bruce is out

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[quote=MTK;1213771]9-7 is still on the table, for a team that's on QB #4 and guard #120 I'd say that's a pretty solid job.[/quote]

It's not really on the table though. We are 10 point dogs to the Titans. We're not winning this game, it won't be close.

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And right now the Eagles are favored by 2 over the Texans. They're our Week 17 opponent so if Vegas set the line now, they'd put it Eagles by 12 or so.

We're in dreadful shape, it will reveal itself over these final 2 games.

Sorry for the doom and gloom but the state of affairs is very bad, and Vegas recognizes that Jay doesn't adjust very well, not to his players, not at halftime, he's a stick to the plan guy and that's it.

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[quote=Schneed10;1213777]No, [B]congratulations for having a pulse[/B] and working wifi :laughing2[/quote]

I see what you did there

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[quote=Schneed10;1213782]It's not really on the table though. We are 10 point dogs to the Titans. We're not winning this game, it won't be close.[/quote]

I disagree. I posted earlier, the Titans are our kind of team. We can stop a runner first team if they don't have a very good passing game compliment.

If JJ is able to play at any consistent level then Gruden can win with him. But the Titans are very much in the playoff hunt, so no slack, and this is a game that JG needs to have the Skins ready for.

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[quote=Schneed10;1213783]And right now the Eagles are favored by 2 over the Texans. They're our Week 17 opponent so if Vegas set the line now, they'd put it Eagles by 12 or so.

We're in dreadful shape, it will reveal itself over these final 2 games.

Sorry for the doom and gloom but the state of affairs is very bad, and Vegas recognizes that Jay doesn't adjust very well, not to his players, not at halftime, he's a stick to the plan guy and that's it.[/quote]
I don't like Gruden as a coach, and agree very much with the last paragraph, but he also knows his job is at least in some jeopardy, and maybe he sees the qb situation as a challenge that he can make work.

There is room for doom and gloom, but also room for a glass half full approach, with Philly having it's own issues and I don't care what the line is Houston will beat Philly, guaranteed, and IF we win, and Philly loses this week, Philly is out of the wildcard chase.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1213782]It's not really on the table though. We are 10 point dogs to the Titans. We're not winning this game, it won't be close.[/QUOTE]



It’s still a possibility even if it’s slim



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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1213785]I disagree. I posted earlier, the Titans are our kind of team. We can stop a runner first team if they don't have a very good passing game compliment.

If JJ is able to play at any consistent level then Gruden can win with him. But the Titans are very much in the playoff hunt, so no slack, and this is a game that JG needs to have the Skins ready for.[/quote]

I'd be pretty surprised. Hopeful for it, but very very surprised.

The Jaguars were 6th in defensive yards per game allowed but the Titans are 7th in yards, and 2nd in points allowed. You shouldn't expect to score more than 13 points against them, which is what JJ just led us to against the Jags defense.

Except Tennessee brings a much more competent offense with a RB on a tear. They don't put up a ton of yards or points, but they also don't lose the turnover battle like the Jaguars do.

Vegas has this game at Titans -10 with a 37 point over/under. That means they see this sucker ending 23 - 13 or something like that. If the Titans don't turn it over more than we do, that will be the result.

We need to force fumbles and get picks to have a chance because our offense can't move the ball on a defense like this.

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[quote=Schneed10;1213789]I'd be pretty surprised. Hopeful for it, but very very surprised.

The Jaguars were 6th in defensive yards per game allowed but the Titans are 7th in yards, and 2nd in points allowed. You shouldn't expect to score more than 13 points against them, which is what JJ just led us to against the Jags defense.

Except Tennessee brings a much more competent offense with a RB on a tear. They don't put up a ton of yards or points, but they also don't lose the turnover battle like the Jaguars do.

Vegas has this game at Titans -10 with a 37 point over/under. That means they see this sucker ending 23 - 13 or something like that. If the Titans don't turn it over more than we do, that will be the result.

[B]We need to force fumbles and get picks to have a chance because our offense can't move the ball on a defense like this.[/B][/quote]

The last line is critical, when we were winning that is what we were doing. I know the RB is on a tear, but the defense can stop a one threat back, they did it often early on. And Tennessee doesn't have a ton of offensive receiving weapons. Mariota has 11 TD to 8 INT this year, he also has 9 fumbles. Our backfield can cover that type of production, and get turnovers based on our pass rush.

The only reason we lose this by more than a FG is JG doesn't have them ready for a Saturday game. Otherwise this team will win or lose in a nailbiter at the end. (that said I will be walking my dog in case it's a blowout I don't want to watch)

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1213790]The last line is critical, when we were winning that is what we were doing. I know the RB is on a tear, but the defense can stop a one threat back, they did it often early on. And Tennessee doesn't have a ton of offensive receiving weapons. Mariota has 11 TD to 8 INT this year, he also has 9 fumbles. Our backfield can cover that type of production, and get turnovers based on our pass rush.

The only reason we lose this by more than a FG is JG doesn't have them ready for a Saturday game. Otherwise this team will win or lose in a nailbiter at the end. (that said I will be walking my dog in case it's a blowout I don't want to watch)[/quote]

I hope you're right and it will be a Merry Christmas if you are. As they say, that's why they play the games.

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Another Prime time game for Jay... what could go wrong?

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1213796]Another Prime time game for Jay... what could go wrong?[/QUOTE]Here's the thing, the curse is in a no-win situation this week. If it leads to us losing we don't make the playoffs and we get an even better draft pick and if we win then we have a shot to get into the playoffs so this week the curse is just playing the odds for next week when it can deal us another soul crushing 8-8 season.

Thus we win this week and next in a fashion that brings Skins nation to its feet and full of hope. Only to be dashed when KC leads the vikings over the bears next week.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1213796]Another Prime time game for Jay... what could go wrong?[/quote]

I don't know if id call 430 game in Tennessee a Prime time game, more like happy hour in the sticks. My suggestion is drink up.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1213785]I disagree. I posted earlier, the Titans are our kind of team. We can stop a runner first team if they don't have a very good passing game compliment.

If JJ is able to play at any consistent level then Gruden can win with him. But the Titans are very much in the playoff hunt, so no slack, and this is a game that JG needs to have the Skins ready for.[/QUOTE]I'm always one to hope for a win. But I have a really hard time seeing us winning this game.

Our offense really didn't look good against the Jags and I don't think the Titans are far behind them defensively.

So we have to hope for a great game by our D, could happen but they would really have to make Mariota look like Cody Kessler, and he's not. He's no Aaron Rodgers either but he's still way better than Kessler. And the offense around him is not what Kessler had around him either.

Now, I didn't have much more hope we could beat Jacksonville so hopefully they prove me wrong again.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1213796]Another Prime time game for Jay... what could go wrong?[/quote]

If the defense hold Henry under 70 yards rushing the Redskins will win this game...Gruden has to do a good coaching job and somehow outcoach Mike Vrabel in order for the Redskins to overcome the Titans on the road...

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[quote=Schneed10;1213789]I'd be pretty surprised. Hopeful for it, but very very surprised.

The Jaguars were 6th in defensive yards per game allowed but the Titans are 7th in yards, and 2nd in points allowed. You shouldn't expect to score more than 13 points against them, which is what JJ just led us to against the Jags defense.

Except Tennessee brings a much more competent offense with a RB on a tear. They don't put up a ton of yards or points, but they also don't lose the turnover battle like the Jaguars do.

[B]Vegas has this game at Titans -10 with a 37 point over/under. That means they see this sucker ending 23 - 13 or something like that. If the Titans don't turn it over more than we do, that will be the result.[/B]

We need to force fumbles and get picks to have a chance because our offense can't move the ball on a defense like this.[/quote]

Worth noting the Skins have won outright 6 games as a dog this year.

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[quote=MTK;1213810]Worth noting the Skins have won outright 6 games as a dog this year.[/quote]

Were we 10 point dogs in any of them?

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1213813]Were we 10 point dogs in any of them?[/QUOTE]



I don’t know but they were getting 7.5 last week which definitely seems ridiculous now



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I’ll say this...Josh Johnson has been extremely solid. Colt shouldn’t play this week, josh earned the start over colt.

Josh Johnson play solidified the move over anybody else. Sanchise was a retard Bruce/Danny move...josh has been a plesent surprise. Tennessee is a fucking good defense period. period. Josh and jay combo has been good. QBR again great this week mid 70s.

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I feel ok if we go into next season with JJ and Colt with Alex easing back in if he can. Still would like to get a rookie in here too of course. But in the short run there’s a lot to like about JJ.


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[QUOTE=MTK;1214449]I feel ok if we go into next season with JJ and Colt with Alex easing back in if he can. Still would like to get a rookie in here too of course. But in the short run there’s a lot to like about JJ.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Yeah hes not a bad QB. I'd keep him over Colt honestly

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I say invite the dude to camp and let him compete for the backup spot...Colt Mc Coy is through and Alex Smith might be too.

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If Jay is back guaranteed that Colt will be too


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Colt is like Lauvoa, another injury riddled player we should move on from

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1214603]Colt is like Lauvoa, another injury riddled player we should move on from[/QUOTE]All those currently in the Cult of Colt are more than welcome to jump on the Johnson band wagon.

Plenty of room in here right now.

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Do we keep 3 QBs on the roster to start next season?

If so, is it Alex, Colt, and Josh? Or Alex, Colt, and Rookie?

I don't imagine Colt being let go, unless maybe Jay is fired.

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If they put Alex on pup we can carry 3 until he comes back and cut one loose at that point


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If Alex is unable to resume his football career and he retires, will the Skins get cap relief for him?