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Redskins already worked out a few guards this morning, but Gruden trying to figure out if Nsekhe can be a guard full-time. Trent, Morgan banged up

Per Keim...

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[quote=Redskins247;1211453]I fear it won't...they'll chalk it up to injuries. What needs to happen, is that the 5000 fans that ARE there on Sunday, all hold up signs saying [FONT="Arial Black"][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="6"]"SNYDER PLEASE SELL OUR TEAM!!!"[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT][/quote]

DS will never sell this team.

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Bruce Allen, Jay Gruden the entire coaching staff need to be revamped. Scot Mcloughan should have been the GM not Bruce. Dan isn't ever gonna sell the team, I dont know we are struggling bad with injuries/
We need to go for the best player available in the draft and then go after Will Grier.
There is just so much going on with the Skins, That its hard to tell if it's actually the coach. I dont know where to begin...

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Sucks , Philly drafts Wentz and wins a SB with Foles..

Dallas drafts Jaylon Smith and LVE and they become a dynamic LB duo.

Giants draft Saquon and he's a superstar already..

Meanwhile we can't even find a QB that wont get injured

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1211458]Redskins already worked out a few guards this morning, but Gruden trying to figure out if Nsekhe can be a guard full-time. Trent, Morgan banged up

Per Keim...[/quote]

at this point I would put TW in at guard, let him lock the line on that side with Nskhe. My play would be pulling the right guard behind them and let AP find the best hole. Every down, and if they crowd it, throw it to Reed in the middle right of the field.

That's the whole playbook, right there :joecool:

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1211462]Sucks , Philly drafts Wentz and wins a SB with Foles..

Dallas drafts Jaylon Smith and LVE and they become a dynamic LB duo.

Giants draft Saquon and he's a superstar already..

Meanwhile we can't even find a QB that wont get injured[/quote]

Meanwhile we trade the farm for a QB who flames out, and we hit on one of the best bargain QBs a fourth round pick can buy, but we can't keep him because we're the Redskins. Life sucks.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1211465]Meanwhile we trade the farm for a QB who flames out, and we hit on one of the best bargain QBs a fourth round pick can buy, but we can't keep him because we're the Redskins. Life sucks.[/QUOTE]


I can’t help but think deep down Cousins is laughing at us this year.

We had a guy to build around and we botched it every way possible.



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[quote=MTK;1211467]I can’t help but think deep down Cousins is laughing at us this year.

We had a guy to build around and we botched it every way possible.



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he has his own problems, if he's looking this way, it's probably more wishful he still had Jay to blame.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1211408]I bet u they have less than 5000 people in the stands. I wouldn't go to that game if the tickets were free[/QUOTE]



I was saying the same thing myself. I’d give them away free to a Giants fan.


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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1211468]he has his own problems, if he's looking this way, it's probably more wishful he still had Jay to blame.[/quote]

Yup, he's basically proving why the team didn't want to bet the farm for him by performing basically the same on a loaded team.

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If by some ungodly chance Gruden does survive to see another year. You HAVE to take away his play calling and force him to turn that over to an OC.

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[quote=Tennskinsfan;1211480]If by some ungodly chance Gruden does survive to see another year. You HAVE to take away his play calling and force him to turn that over to an OC.[/quote]

Like Jim Zorn 2.0?

Forcing a situation like that is less realistic than keeping him.

If that's how the F.O. feels about it, they'll just fire him.

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[quote=Tennskinsfan;1211480]If by some ungodly chance Gruden does survive to see another year. You HAVE to take away his play calling and force him to turn that over to an OC.[/quote]

Agree with this.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1211477]Yup, he's basically proving why the team didn't want to bet the farm for him by performing basically the same on a loaded team.[/quote]

No way, i don't agree. He is performing basically the same way because just like here, he has a defense that doesn't show up from week to week. We have yet to see Cousins play on a team that has a truly good defense week to week. Minnesota won't even make the playoffs, and i think that has more to do with the defense than Cousins' play.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1211318]Fire Bruce Allen, Gruden and Ike Hilliard

Promote Kyle Smith to GM (he’s viewed as the Sean McVay of personnel)

Let Kyle pick his coach and QB[/QUOTE]



Sounds like a good start. So we will probably keep them all and fire Kyle....

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i vote eric sheaffer GM
Matt Lefleur head coach

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[QUOTE=dmek25;1211494]i vote eric sheaffer GM
Matt Lefleur head coach[/QUOTE]Shaffer is a cap guy. A number cruncher.

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[QUOTE=dmek25;1211494]i vote eric sheaffer GM

Matt Lefleur head coach[/QUOTE]


Watch out before skinsfan69 comes and flames you


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[QUOTE=MTK;1211467]I can’t help but think deep down Cousins is laughing at us this year.

We had a guy to build around and we botched it every way possible.



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Agreed. Another Bruce Allen move....


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Kirk is still inconsistent but he's still better than 20 or so QB's in the NFL.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1211496]Shaffer is a cap guy. A number cruncher.

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Actually, from what I've read, don't discount his ability for player personnel. He apparently knows more about that than people assume.

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[QUOTE=metalskins;1211503]Actually, from what I've read, don't discount his ability for player personnel. He apparently knows more about that than people assume.[/QUOTE]Oh wow. That's even better, where did you see that?

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[quote=metalskins;1211503]Actually, from what I've read, don't discount his ability for player personnel. He apparently knows more about that than people assume.[/quote]

Kyle Smith is the personnel equivalent of McVay as a coach, why would they risk losing him? Then again, they are the dysfunctional Redskins and anything stupid can happen. I would promote Smith to GM.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1211507]Oh wow. That's even better, where did you see that?

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I have got to find that article. Seems like it came from John Keim, but I would honestly need to search for it. I can't remember if it was mentioned in one of his tweets or if it was a full blown article, but I do remember hearing this.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1211508]Kyle Smith is the personnel equivalent of McVay as a coach, why would they risk losing him? Then again, they are the dysfunctional Redskins and anything stupid can happen. I would promote Smith to GM.[/quote]

Well, Schaffer could still serve as some sort of assistant with player personnel. I'd promote Kyle Smith to GM for sure. I mean, even Bobby Beathard had Charlie Casserly servering under him at a certain point, so it's not like you have to have only the GM and nobody else assisting with player personnel. In fact, it might would make Smith's job easier.

Of course, as you say, this is the dysfunctional Redskins, so they tend to not think in terms of what makes sense to us fans.

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[QUOTE=metalskins;1211514]Well, Schaffer could still serve as some sort of assistant with player personnel. I'd promote Kyle Smith to GM for sure. I mean, even Bobby Beathard had Charlie Casserly servering under him at a certain point, so it's not like you have to have only the GM and nobody else assisting with player personnel. In fact, it might would make Smith's job easier.



Of course, as you say, this is the dysfunctional Redskins, so they tend to not think in terms of what makes sense to us fans.[/QUOTE]



I made these comments last night and I’ve made them a few weeks now. Be careful before skinsfan69 comes along and bashes everyone for them.


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1211515]I made these comments last night and I’ve made them a few weeks now. Be careful before skinsfan69 comes along and bashes everyone for them.


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[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1211491]No way, i don't agree. He is performing basically the same way because just like here, he has a defense that doesn't show up from week to week. We have yet to see Cousins play on a team that has a truly good defense week to week. Minnesota won't even make the playoffs, and i think that has more to do with the defense than Cousins' play.[/QUOTE]Defense led them to NFC championship last year. Funny thing is how all the talk last year was how he was going to a perfect place for him.

I don't think it's all on Cousins but he was supposed to take them to the promised land and instead you hear their fans sounding like this board the last 2 seasons. Some people defending KC and some ripping him for his untimely errors.

KC is who he was here. He will set records, put up stats and still manage to make terrible plays at terrible moments which keep a team from winning key games.

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So our new back up QB is a no name who was out of the league and playing for the AAF, because... Jay and his staff know him from Jay's time in Tampa...

How many times have we heard that argument? I won't search but it feels like for some coaches or players we've read "whom Jay worked with when he was in Tampa" a solid number of times...

I mean this is the NFL not your uncle's local restaurant ! Find the best players and coaches, not the ones you feel safe with because you know them already...

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1211528]So our new back up QB is a no name who was out of the league and playing for the AAF, because... Jay and his staff know him from Jay's time in Tampa...

How many times have we heard that argument? I won't search but it feels like for some coaches or players we've read "whom Jay worked with when he was in Tampa" a solid number of times...

I mean this is the NFL not your uncle's local restaurant ! Find the best players and coaches, not the ones you feel safe with because you know them already...[/quote]

Frenchie, man. We're starting an emergency qb for the rest of the year. It's literally all down hill from here. They could sign Bruce Allen to be the backup, idc.

Foreshadowing here but this feels like the beginning of the end.

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[quote=mooby;1211530]Frenchie, man. We're starting an emergency qb for the rest of the year. It's literally all down hill from here. They could sign Bruce Allen to be the backup, idc.

Foreshadowing here but this feels like the beginning of the end.[/quote]

Yeah I know this has no importance at all, I just feel like once again it reflects badly on this coaching staff.
I've been a Jay defender for a long time, but a lot of things point toward his inability to game plan and get the guys ready and fired up for big games.
IMO, this is one of these little things showing Jay is not a good leader, he plays scared and average even when signing a back up QB.

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[quote=mooby;1211530]Frenchie, man. We're starting an emergency qb for the rest of the year. It's literally all down hill from here. [B]They could sign Bruce Allen to be the backup,[/B] idc.

Foreshadowing here but this feels like the beginning of the end.[/quote]

I am all for this

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1211528]So our new back up QB is a no name who was out of the league and playing for the AAF, because... Jay and his staff know him from Jay's time in Tampa...



How many times have we heard that argument? I won't search but it feels like for some coaches or players we've read "whom Jay worked with when he was in Tampa" a solid number of times...



I mean this is the NFL not your uncle's local restaurant ! Find the best players and coaches, not the ones you feel safe with because you know them already...[/QUOTE]



They have one week to prep the guy, so if there’s some familiarity there that’s a good thing




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Familiarity is fine but man Josh Johnson fucking sucks. Back up or not, terrible fucking choice. Jay's time in Tampa, LMFAO TEN YEARS AGO !!

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Jay and his brother Jon don’t know a good QB when they see one. I remember one year Jon went through 7 QB’s in TB.

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[QUOTE=Meks;1211539]Familiarity is fine but man Josh Johnson fucking sucks. Back up or not, terrible fucking choice. Jay's time in Tampa, LMFAO TEN YEARS AGO !![/QUOTE]



Of course he sucks, Joe Montana isn’t out on the streets right now and no Kap wasn’t a realistic option




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There are plenty of things to kill Gruden over, Josh Johnson isn’t one of them


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[quote=MTK;1211544]Of course he sucks, Joe Montana isn’t out on the streets right now and no Kap wasn’t a realistic option




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I don't think kap was viable. I just think the excuse or "reason" to sign Johnson over ppl like Yates and others was a joke. I've always thought kap was overrated anyway.

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When it's after the trading deadline, and you are picking up your 2nd backup QB, the guy sucks. That's just a fact. It's as certain as death and taxes. The first qb after the trading deadline is a guy with a few issues, maybe he can maybe he can't hopefully he won't play.

The 2nd guy after the trading deadline is either a diamond ring buried in a mountain of manure, or just the mountain of manure. Either way you are screwed for having a pile of manure on your team.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1211545]There are plenty of things to kill Gruden over, Josh Johnson isn’t one of them


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Not gonna argue for hours over this, it's a small thing. Just adds to the feeling that Jay is not a great leader.
I mean what edge does it give Josh to have been a back up on a team with Jay as an offensive assistant for one season that justifies signing him over guys that have been deemed good enough to at least stay in the NFL ?

And again I know it's not a big thing and there was no great back up QB available.

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