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I get why people would be attracted to a guy like Vita Vea because he's that big huge space eating body that would look good in the middle of our defense, but I'm concerned that he'll get cut off at the point of attack too often because he doesn't come out of his stance quick enough. Centers in the NFL can get into his kitchen pretty quickly if he doesn't explode off the ball better.

I prefer Wilkins because you see the athleticism - he's a Fletcher Cox clone in body type and size. Looks quick like him, and he's proven that he can line up anywhere on the DL at Clemson and succeed. He rushed off the edge for a while there because of injuries, and still had success.

You think about the way the Texans move Watt around, the line can't predict where he'll line up. That's extremely valuable versatility. Not saying Wilkins will be JJ Watt but the ability to slide him up and down the line creates protection problems on 3rd down for any offensive line.

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I wont make a mock just yet, I'll wait until it gets closer but for now I'll say IF we have KC still, I'd like a RB/WR at 13. Sutton from SMU looks like a freak. Chubb would be nice too but not at 13.

IF we DONT have KC, obviously a QB would be the pick.

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[quote=Schneed10;1186562]I'm not a fan personally, too slow off the ball. If you watch the highlights you'll see he's way too often the last one out of his stance.

If you want interior DL, Christian Wilkins from Clemson:

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He's a stud, but he went back to Clemson for another year. Their whole damn line did. Their D is nasty again.

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[quote=Schneed10;1186563]I get why people would be attracted to a guy like Vita Vea because he's that big huge space eating body that would look good in the middle of our defense, but I'm concerned that he'll get cut off at the point of attack too often because he doesn't come out of his stance quick enough. Centers in the NFL can get into his kitchen pretty quickly if he doesn't explode off the ball better.

I prefer Wilkins because you see the athleticism - he's a Fletcher Cox clone in body type and size. Looks quick like him, and he's proven that he can line up anywhere on the DL at Clemson and succeed. He rushed off the edge for a while there because of injuries, and still had success.

You think about the way the Texans move Watt around, the line can't predict where he'll line up. That's extremely valuable versatility. Not saying Wilkins will be JJ Watt but the ability to slide him up and down the line creates protection problems on 3rd down for any offensive line.[/quote]

With that upper body power I'd assume he'd be able to work on getting that same time power/explosion in his lower body in a professional training setting. When he does get on linemen or the ball carrier its a wrap.

There are lots of players that would work for us at 13, not saying he's my number 1 preference, but I'd be happy with the pick. We have needed a big ass hog in the middle for years now.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1186568]He's a stud, but he went back to Clemson for another year. Their whole damn line did. Their D is nasty again.[/quote]

Aw damn now I see those articles, from last week. I missed that. It's a shame - it's helpful to have multiple players available at positions of need.

I like BPA but when it intersects with need that's obviously best, so seeing DLs like him go back to school blows chunks!

Thanks for informing me.

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13: R1p13 - qb baker mayfield - oklahoma
44: R2p12 - lb malik jefferson - texas
78: R3p14 - rb josh adams - notre dame
115: R4p13 - dt trenton thompson - georgia
151: R5p12 - wr deontay burnett - usc
191: R6p14 - s jessie bates - wake forest
231: R7p13 - cb brandon facyson - virginia tech
241: R7p23 - g cody oconnell - washington state

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Here's my draft:

1981:
1. [B]Mark May[/B], T, Pittsburgh
3. [B]Russ Grimm[/B], G, Pittsburgh
4. Tom Flick, QB, Washington
5. [B]Dexter Manley[/B], DE, Oklahoma State
5. Gary Sayre, G, Cameron
6. [B]Larry Kubin[/B], LB, Penn State
8. [B]Charlie Brown[/B], WR, South Carolina State
9. [B]Darryl Grant[/B], G, Rice
10. Phil Kessel, QB, Northern Michigan
10. Allan Kennedy, T, Washington State
11. Jerry Hill, WR, Northern Alabama
12. [B]Clint Didier,[/B] TE, Portland State
UDFA[B] Joe Jacoby[/B], Louisville

A 2018 draft that is successful as this one would be nice.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1186612]Here's my draft:

1981:
1. [B]Mark May[/B], T, Pittsburgh
3. [B]Russ Grimm[/B], G, Pittsburgh
4. Tom Flick, QB, Washington
5. [B]Dexter Manley[/B], DE, Oklahoma State
5. Gary Sayre, G, Cameron
6. [B]Larry Kubin[/B], LB, Penn State
8. [B]Charlie Brown[/B], WR, South Carolina State
9. [B]Darryl Grant[/B], G, Rice
10. Phil Kessel, QB, Northern Michigan
10. Allan Kennedy, T, Washington State
11. Jerry Hill, WR, Northern Alabama
12. [B]Clint Didier,[/B] TE, Portland State
UDFA[B] Joe Jacoby[/B], Louisville

A 2018 draft that is successful as this one would be nice.[/quote]


damn

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My 1st post trade mock draft:

13: R1P13 - DL VITA VEA - WASHINGTON
44: R2P12 - G WILL HERNANDEZ - UTEP
115: R4P13 - RB BO SCARBROUGH - ALABAMA
151: R5P12 - WR D.J. CHARK - LSU
191: R6P14 - LB DARIUS LEONARD -SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
231: R7P13 - S DAMON WEBB - OHIO STATE
241: R7P23 - CB KAMERON KELLY - SAN DIEGO STATE

No compensatory picks were included.

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Post Trade Edition

Round 1 Pick 13: Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame (A)
Round 2 Pick 12: Will Hernandez, OG, Texas-El Paso (B+)
Round 4 Pick 13: Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon (A+)
Round 5 Pick 12: J.C. Jackson, CB, Maryland (A+)
Round 6 Pick 14: B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Jack Cichy, ILB/OLB, Wisconsin (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: Ray-Ray McCloud, WR, Clemson (A+)

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1187528]Post Trade Edition

Round 1 Pick 13: Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame (A)
Round 2 Pick 12: Will Hernandez, OG, Texas-El Paso (B+)
Round 4 Pick 13: Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon (A+)
Round 5 Pick 12: J.C. Jackson, CB, Maryland (A+)
Round 6 Pick 14: B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Jack Cichy, ILB/OLB, Wisconsin (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: Ray-Ray McCloud, WR, Clemson (A+)[/quote]

Really? OT is the most stable position on the team. the first round should be a RB, WR, G, DT, FS. or ILB

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[quote=Irrefutable;1187534]Really? OT is the most stable position on the team. the first round should be a RB, WR, G, DT, FS. or ILB[/quote]

Nothing about our o-line was stable last year. Nothing.

That being said, the last time we drafted an OT early, he didn't play OT. My plan here was solidifying the LG spot with a lineman who can move around if needed. I wanted to go with Derwin or RB at 13, but there wasn't one there that fit the spot when I did the mock.

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I usually don't speculate much on trade downs but our first round priority has recently changed drastically and this could be good for us.
I've been reading stuff and some of the pundits have listed at least six teams that draft after us that might want a quarterback.
We pick at 13.
Cardinals pick at 17 and the Bills at 21.
If one of the wonder boy QBs are still there when we pick you would think Buffalo would want to jump ahead of Arizona.
So....swap positions in the first with Buffalo and get their third round pick plus another, not sure of that value.
So we recoup our lost third + another pick.

1. James Washington - WR
2. Jeff Holland - DE
3. Kalen Ballage - RB
4. Sam Jones - G

New Orleans, Pitttsburg and New England may also want to trade up.

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Your score is: 15895 (GRADE: C)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 13: Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan (B+)
Round 2 Pick 12: Lowell Lotulelei, DT, Utah (B-)
Round 4 Pick 13: Michael Gallup, WR, Colorado State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 12: Adonis Alexander, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 6 Pick 14: Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond (C+)
Round 7 Pick 13: David Bright, OT, Stanford (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: Dominick Sanders, FS, Georgia (C)

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13: R1p13 - dl maurice hurst - michigan
44: R2p12 - rb ronald jones ii - usc
115: R4p13 - cb levi wallace - alabama
151: R5p12 - lb micah kiser - virginia
191: R6p14 - wr daesean hamilton - penn state
231: R7p13 - g kyle bosch - west virginia
241: R7p23 - s tre flowers - oklahoma state

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13: R1p13 - rb derrius guice- lsu
44: R2p12 - dl da'ron payne - alabama
115: R4p13- wr d.j. Chark - lsu
151: R5p12 - lb dorian o'daniel - clemson
191: R6p14 - cb levi wallace - alabama
231: R7p13- g sam jones - arizona st
241: R7p23 - s jarrod franklin - tulane

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Look at the Eagles, they have killer O-Line, D-Line and backups on both lines.
Thus in turn they have a great running game and are good at stopping the run. They do not get pushed around by anyone.
We have to fix our lines, it will make everything else better.
Stop with the RB, QB, WR picks.

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Your Picks:

1 Pick 13: Derwin James, SS/FS, Florida State (A)
Round 2 Pick 12: Lowell Lotulelei, DT, Utah (B+)
Round 4 Pick 13: Michael Gallup, WR, Colorado State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 12: Mike White, QB, Western Kentucky (D)
Round 6 Pick 14: Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Kalen Ballage, RB, Arizona State (C+)
Round 7 Pick 23: Kamryn Pettway, RB, Auburn (B+)

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[quote=Defensewins;1188326]Look at the Eagles, they have killer O-Line, D-Line and backups on both lines.
Thus in turn they have a great running game and are good at stopping the run. They do not get pushed around by anyone.
We have to fix our lines, it will make everything else better.
Stop with the RB, QB, WR picks.[/quote]

True, assuming they do not get any line help in free agency.

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13: R1p13 - dl vita vea - washington
44: R2p12 - g isaiah wynn - georgia
115: R4p13 - rb kalen ballage - arizona state
151: R5p12 - lb micah kiser - virginia
191: R6p14 - wr michael gallup - colorado state
231: R7p13 - cb d'montre wade - murray state
241: R7p23 - s quin blanding - virginia

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here is my Mock 1.0 lol

13. Trade with Buffalo ( we get the 20th pick and a 3rd rounder) They draft a QB.

So.

21. Marcus Davenport - EDGE - UTSA
44. Nick Chubb - RB - UGA
96. (BUF) Antonio Callaway - WR - UF
115. Will Clapp - G - LSU
151. Kendrick Norton - DT - MIAMI FL
191. DJ Reed - CB - KSU
231. Dan Carlson - K - AUBURN
241. Nic Shimonek - QB - TT

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1188991]here is my Mock 1.0 lol

13. Trade with Buffalo ( we get the 20th pick and a 3rd rounder) They draft a QB.

So.

21. Marcus Davenport - EDGE - UTSA
44. Nick Chubb - RB - UGA
96. (BUF) Antonio Callaway - WR - UF
115. Will Clapp - G - LSU
151. Kendrick Norton - DT - MIAMI FL
191. DJ Reed - CB - KSU
231. Dan Carlson - K - AUBURN
241. Nic Shimonek - QB - TT[/quote]

If a QB magically falls to 13 I'm holding Buffalo's feet to the fire for both their 1st round picks. Or a 1st and 2nd. But trading down would be a good idea to get extra pick(s).

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1189002]If a QB magically falls to 13 I'm holding Buffalo's feet to the fire for both their 1st round picks. Or a 1st and 2nd. But trading down would be a good idea to get extra pick(s).[/quote]

we need more picks, I love the idea of trading down unless u have a legit difference maker at 13

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Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 19 (DAL):**Vea, Vita, DT, Washington (A)
Round 2 Pick 12:**Johnson, Kerryon, RB, Auburn (A)
Round 2 Pick 18 (DAL):**Harrison, Ronnie, SS, Alabama (A)
Round 4 Pick 13:**St Brown, Equanimeous, WR, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 5 Pick 12:**Schultz, Dalton, TE, Stanford (A)
Round 6 Pick 14:**Jackson, JC, CB, Maryland (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13:**Demby, Jamil, OG, Maine (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23:**Adams, Tony, OG, North Carolina State (A)

This is my favorite I've done so far, but I had to trade with Dallas to make it happen.

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13: R1p13 - dl vita vea - washington
44: R2p12 - rb derrius guice - lsu
113: R4p13 - wr anthony miller - memphis
149: R5p12 - cb duke dawson - florida
188: R6p14 - lb josey jewell - iowa
231: R7p13 - s marcus allen- penn state
241: R7p23 - g cody o'connell - washington state

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I traded down ALOT, and this seems very unrealistic, but I would be happy to have it happen:

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 5 (NYJ): Hernandez, Will, OG, Texas-El Paso (A)
Round 2 Pick 7 (CHI): Phillips, Harrison, DT, Stanford (A-)
Round 2 Pick 15 (ARI): Harrison, Ronnie, SS, Alabama (A-)
Round 2 Pick 17 (NYJ): Hand, DaShawn, DE, Alabama (A-)
Round 2 Pick 18 (DAL): Jewell, Josey, ILB, Iowa (A-)
Round 3 Pick 6 (S.F.): Guice, Derrius, RB, LSU (A+)
Round 3 Pick 29 (JAX): Blanding, Quin, FS, Virginia (A)
Round 4 Pick 1 (CLE): Gallup, Michael, WR, Colorado State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 13: Jackson, Donte, CB, LSU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 23 (CLE): Miller, Kolton, OT, UCLA (A)
Round 5 Pick 1 (CLE): McCray, Mike, OLB, Michigan (A)
Round 5 Pick 12: Fumagalli, Troy, TE, Wisconsin (A)
Round 6 Pick 14: Street, Kentavius, DT, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 13: Facyson, Brandon, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: Ramesh, Austin, FB, Wisconsin (A)

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Probably my favorite mock draft I've done...

13: R1 - DL DA'RON PAYNE - ALABAMA
44: R2 - RB SONY MICHEL - GEORGIA
113: R4 - G BRADEN SMITH - AUBURN
149: R5 - WR KEKE COUTEE - TEXAS TECH
188: R6 - CB D.J. REED - KANSAS STATE
231: R7 - LB CHRIS WORLEY - OHIO STATE
241: R7 - S JESSIE BATES III - WAKE FOREST

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Absent trading down, which I'd be agreeable with, I want Vea or Payne at # 13 (with players we have a chance at).

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Would you trade a 2019 1st into the top 5 for Barkley?

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1189309]Would you trade a 2019 1st into the top 5 for Barkley?[/QUOTE]No way.

I like Barkley a lot, and wouldn't pass him up if he falls to the Redskins, but an elite RB is not something I'd ever trade for. Significant contributors at RB can be found in the mid rounds every year. RBs also don't have longevity, it's just not a good long term return on investment.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1189308]Absent trading down, which I'd be agreeable with, I want Vea or Payne at # 13 (with players we have a chance at).[/quote]

I just don't see the fit for Payne. He is the same size as Jonathan Allen which is a bit undersized for an NFL DT. Heck, he even has a similar skill set to that of Allen. So, the way I see it, we already have what Payne brings to the party in Jonathan Allen.

What we really need is a big, fat run stuffer. I think we should take a run at Bennie Logan or the big dude from Atlanta in FA. If we don't sign one of those two, then Vea would be very high on my wish list.

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[quote=WillH;1189314]No way.

I like Barkley a lot, and wouldn't pass him up if he falls to the Redskins, but an elite RB is not something I'd ever trade for. Significant contributors at RB can be found in the mid rounds every year. RBs also don't have longevity, it's just not a good long term return on investment.

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Imo he is a guy that could put us over the top with Smith tho, I would certainly entertain it at the very least. RB's are easy to fill but ELITE RB's are very far and few between.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1189315]I just don't see the fit for Payne. He is the same size as Jonathan Allen which is a bit undersized for an NFL DT. Heck, he even has a similar skill set to that of Allen. So, the way I see it, we already have what Payne brings to the party in Jonathan Allen.

What we really need is a big, fat run stuffer. I think we should take a run at Bennie Logan or the big dude from Atlanta in FA. If we don't sign one of those two, then Vea would be very high on my wish list.[/QUOTE]I tend to agree, but if read somewhere that Payne has room on his frame to add weight and that he's good at getting a good inside push to disrupt run lanes, so he might be able to fill that role. I also really really like Tim Settle as a 2nd round option.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1189316]Imo he is a guy that could put us over the top with Smith tho, I would certainly entertain it at the very least. RB's are easy to fill but ELITE RB's are very far and few between.[/QUOTE]We aren't one player away from going over the top. Elite RBs are rare, that's true, but they get injured as often as non elite. Also, name me an elite RB that has won a Superbowl in the past 10 years.

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Ok, this is a hard question for me to answer, I wanted to see what you all think. If the following players are all somehow available at 13 who would you take:

A. Barkley
B. Nelson
C. Ridley
D. Vea
E. R. Smith
F. None of the above

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[quote=WillH;1189319]Ok, this is a hard question for me to answer, I wanted to see what you all think. If the following players are all somehow available at 13 who would you take:

A. Barkley
B. Nelson
C. Ridley
D. Vea
E. R. Smith
F. None of the above

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Barkley no doubt, and I do believe he could help us win the east. Not saying SB but also who thought Philly would? It can happen man

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1189322]Barkley no doubt, and I do believe he could help us win the east. Not saying SB but also who thought Philly would? It can happen man[/QUOTE]And Philly's elite RB is...?

I know that's not your point, but it is mine. They traded up to get their franchise QB, that's much different. They also stackes their lines. They did not add an elite RB to take them over the top.

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[quote=WillH;1189323]And Philly's elite RB is...?

I know that's not your point, but it is mine. They traded up to get their franchise QB, that's much different. They also stackes their lines. They did not add an elite RB to take them over the top.

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very true, I do think we def need a Guard and a Center to solidify that line. Hope we get most of our holes filled this OS

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The Giants are in a great spot to trade down IMO, yes they could take Barkley but they could load up on picks, look how many teams want a QB.

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#NFLCombine Key Measurements thread...

21. #LSU RB Derrius Guice
Height: 5-10 4/8
Weight: 224 👀
Hand: 9
Arm: 30 6/8
Wingspan: 72 6/8