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Egos are out of control at Redskins park. Been that way for a while.

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I will reserve judgment for a while for the following reasons. 2 Pro McLovin and 1 against.

I would like to see how it all plays out before lopping heads.

1. It takes at least 3 years to judge a draft class.

2. I don't think any of the free agent busts were intended as anything other than a low risk low money bandaid.

3. A handful of very negative public comments has come out from the organization (All the folks in the know guessed McLovin) about Kirk. Being a stat accumulator at the beginning of the season and the Jason Cole Bleacher report article. These came out at a time when Kirk should be wooed like a 5 star recruit at a shady S.E.C. school.

I don't have an issue with McLovin being kept out of the media after putting his foot in his mouth over Kirk.

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[quote=MTK;1165047]He definitely needs some strong results this offseason, and picks from years 1 and 2 need to step it up.[/quote]

I am not really big on year two's picks. If Cravens plays 12 games I will be happy. I am psyching myself out just in case Doctson blows his Achilles again. Our UFA RBs might be the only bright spot of that draft if Sua can't stay healthy.

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[quote=FlyerSkin;1165137]I am not really big on year two's picks. If Cravens plays 12 games I will be happy. I am psyching myself out just in case Doctson blows his Achilles again. Our UFA RBs might be the only bright spot of that draft if Sua can't stay healthy.[/quote]

I think had Joe Barry played Cravens more as a safety, he would have stayed healthy. How do I know that? I don't. I'm just trying to find something to piss and moan about our departed DC.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1165111]I believe that McNabb was on his last legs during the final season in Philly. He was washed up when he arrived here. Look how horrible he was during his one short season in Minnesota. We didn't do him any favors here, but i also think it wasn't 100% our fault that he sucked here.[/quote]

question...who picked McNabb and then followed trading everything and up picking RG3.

Hint...it wasnt Shanny either time...

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1165136]I don't have an issue with McLovin being kept out of the media after putting his foot in his mouth over Kirk.[/quote]

Exactly. A lot of what SM said might have been true but there was no need to say it to anyone, let alone in front of a camera. I would much rather wonder what is going on in Redskins Park instead of reading all the details a week in advance on Vinnyleaks.

**edit** tacking this on here as I think this is the right thread......

WTF happened to patience for a rebuild? If we had gone 6-10 then 9-6-1 I dont think there would be all of the BS. Honestly if I take a serious look at where the skins are, I am happy with the progress. We just need to stick with a plan and be patient. We have sucked since '91 who cares about another year or two of solidifying the roster and winning about as much as we lose? Heh, that would still be the best record across 5 years since Gibbs I. By far. Go Caps and get me another beer while your up please.

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[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2017/02/15/chris-cooley-speculates-on-air-about-scot-mccloughan-is-he-drinking/?utm_term=.584421aa71ba[/url]

"Chris Cooley speculates on-air about Scot McCloughan: ‘Is he drinking?’"


oh boy...here we go.

someone knock Cooley the eff out...

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[quote=Chico23231;1165191][URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2017/02/15/chris-cooley-speculates-on-air-about-scot-mccloughan-is-he-drinking/?utm_term=.584421aa71ba[/URL]

"Chris Cooley speculates on-air about Scot McCloughan: ‘Is he drinking?’"


oh boy...here we go.

someone knock Cooley the eff out...[/quote]

Here we go indeed. Based off his past history it might be reasonable to think that, but the article clearly states Cooley has nothing to go off of so he's clearly guessing on this one. And that's not a good thing considering he works for the team and has insiders. People might assume because of his connections that there could be some weight behind this. And yes, there could be some weight behind this, but you have nothing to go off of so it's not fair to McC to do that.

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[quote=Chico23231;1165191][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2017/02/15/chris-cooley-speculates-on-air-about-scot-mccloughan-is-he-drinking/?utm_term=.584421aa71ba[/url]

"Chris Cooley speculates on-air about Scot McCloughan: ‘Is he drinking?’"


oh boy...here we go.

someone knock Cooley the eff out...[/quote]

I am sorry but that is the first thing i thought about. Call me an ass but that is the first place my mind went.

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A bunch of idiots!!!!! Just keep quiet till there is something to talk about. I am talking about those in Redskin Park. Giving the jackals in the media any tasty tidbits is just going to magnify any situation. Damn derailing building the team doesn't give me much confidence in the front office. Cooley needs to cool it!!!! Geez this is
Trumplike crap.

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[quote=Chico23231;1165191][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2017/02/15/chris-cooley-speculates-on-air-about-scot-mccloughan-is-he-drinking/?utm_term=.584421aa71ba[/url]

"Chris Cooley speculates on-air about Scot McCloughan: ‘Is he drinking?’"


oh boy...here we go.

someone knock Cooley the eff out...[/quote]

I really, hate to say it, but that was the first thing I thought about when I first heard about this issue. And unfortunately, it makes a lot of sense. If your putting the gag on the GM and telling him to straighten up and keep his attention on player personnel, it sound exactly like Allen noticed SM not being in a condition to talk to the media.

I hope I'm wrong, but it does make sense.

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[quote=metalskins;1165233]I really, hate to say it, but that was the first thing I thought about when I first heard about this issue. And unfortunately, it makes a lot of sense. If your putting the gag on the GM and telling him to straighten up and keep his attention on player personnel, it sound exactly like Allen noticed SM not being in a condition to talk to the media.

I hope I'm wrong, but it does make sense.[/quote]

Thought the same thing! Plus have you seen SM lately; his face is just strange.

I am obviously just speculating and I hope he is not dealing with demons.

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I think because of speculation like that it becomes all the more imperative to get Cousins signed to a long term deal and real soon. If they fail to do that, I fear it's going to have a rippling of consequences.

What makes me want to bang my head into a wall over this is our past history. We had no trouble giving out a huge contract to Haynesworth, but now that we actually have a proven commodity at QB you can't pay him? Headscratching.

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Has anyone said something besides Cooley? Was it just a random, "Hey, is Scot drinking again?" Unless there's some smoke, I don't believe there's any fire.

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[quote=mredskins;1165242]Thought the same thing! Plus have you seen SM lately; his face is just strange.

I am obviously just speculating and I hope he is not dealing with demons.[/quote]

Alcoholics tend to have a very red tint to their faces and their faces also tend to get kind of puffy. So, I don't want to speculate and hope this is not true whatsoever. I'm just going to go on the premise that this is do or die time for the organization and the gag order is mainly just to shut out the talking heads and the media and focus on the task at hand. Too much is usually said to the media anyway.

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Steinberg crushes it:

[quote]And so there seem to be three possible results of this speculation:

1. A team employee, on a Dan Snyder-owned radio station, falsely suggested that the team’s general manager relapsed into drinking. That seems not great.

2. A team employee, on a Dan Snyder-owned radio station, correctly guessed that the team’s general manager relapsed into drinking. That, also, seems not great.

3. A team employee was fed unflattering information about the team’s general manager by a palace rival, which he then placed into the public sphere, via a Dan Snyder-owned radio station. That seems both impossibly Machiavellian, and also in-keeping with modern D.C.[/quote]

There's no reason to believe at this point that it's any more than #1. But yeah, not great.

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[url=http://www.12up.com/posts/4584106-report-kirk-cousins-doesn-t-want-to-play-for-redskins-beyond-next-season?a_aid=40833]REPORT: Kirk Cousins Doesn't Want to Play for Redskins Beyond Next Season | 12up[/url]


There has been word that Kirk will not sign a long term deal and its why he hasn't committed to the organization.

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I'm glad 12up has finally weighed in. Seriously where do you guys find this shit

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[quote=MTK;1165268]I'm glad 12up has finally weighed in. Seriously where do you guys find this shit[/quote]

Redskins 24/7 lol... But seriously I wonder if kirk really wants to be in DC

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1165270]Redskins 24/7 lol... But seriously I wonder if kirk really wants to be in DC[/quote]

Based on what?

He could have forced the issue last year, but instead it took him about 2 seconds to sign the tag.

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[quote=Chico23231;1165191][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2017/02/15/chris-cooley-speculates-on-air-about-scot-mccloughan-is-he-drinking/?utm_term=.584421aa71ba[/url]

"Chris Cooley speculates on-air about Scot McCloughan: ‘Is he drinking?’"


oh boy...here we go.

someone knock Cooley the eff out...[/quote]

Cooley would know I guess, isn't he known as a bit of a boozer himself? Maybe he's been knocking them back with McC

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[quote=MTK;1165271]Based on what?

He could have forced the issue last year, but instead it took him about 2 seconds to sign the tag.[/quote]

A truly committed player would've signed it in one second. Just sayin'.

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[quote=MTK;1165271]Based on what?

He could have forced the issue last year, but instead it took him about 2 seconds to sign the tag.[/quote]

the fact that he hasn't came out and said "yes I want to be a redskin" instead he says "If its right for me to be here" Seems odd to me

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1165276]the fact that he hasn't came out and said "yes I want to be a redskin" instead he says "If its right for me to be here" Seems odd to me[/quote]

Have to agree. I am wondering if he indeed does want to go to the 49ers with Kyle or is just after the $$$$ and will bolt. At this point maybe going for 2 first rounders isn't so bad after all.

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"Fun" times at Redskins Park. Some things never change

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1165276]the fact that he hasn't came out and said "yes I want to be a redskin" instead he says "If its right for me to be here" Seems odd to me[/QUOTE]



He has though, several times.

Better yet, show me where he says he doesn't want to be here.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1165279]"Fun" times at Redskins Park. Some things never change[/quote]

Oh god..............................death, taxes and drama at redskin's park

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[quote=MTK;1165272]Cooley would know I guess, isn't he known as a bit of a boozer himself? Maybe he's been knocking them back with McC[/quote]

Adulterous not Alcoholic; I think you are getting your A's mixed with him.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1165279]"Fun" times at Redskins Park. Some things never change[/quote]

I wonder how it would go over if I got on the radio and speculated that my CEO or CFO had a substance abuse problem...oh and if they worked right upstairs from me.

To me, this is insane and wreckless speculation. Also, I would think because of the position of Cooley...isn't he an employee of the skins...wouldn't this be handled and a statement from the org warranted? Cooley isn't some other DC media type. Like always, I'm seeing the organizational dysfunction that has been the hallmark of a Snyder lead franchise.

I don't get it...we have been a better franchise since Scott has arrived. Cant we just be happy with that?

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[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2017/02/16/ex-employee-chris-cooley-being-told-to-speculate-on-scot-mccloughan-drinking/]Chris Cooley might be being told to speculate on Redskins GM « CBS DC[/url]

Interesting article on the heels of Cooley remarks. They will always be my team but my god they are never going to amount to poop with Dan and company running the show.

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[quote=Chico23231;1165287]I wonder how it would go over if I got on the radio and speculated that my CEO or CFO had a substance abuse problem...oh and if they worked right upstairs from me.

To me, this is insane and wreckless speculation. Also, I would think because of the position of Cooley...isn't he an employee of the skins...wouldn't this be handled and a statement from the org warranted? Cooley isn't some other DC media type. Like always I seeing the organizational dysfunction that has been the hallmark of a Snyder lead franchise.

I don't get it...we have been a better franchise since Scott has arrived. Cant we just be happy with that?[/quote]

Agree that Cooley has to understand his position is different from others. I won't comment on other stuff

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I really don't want to believe these childish antics are still happening with this franchise, but I think it all goes back to who's ultimately in charge. Until THAT person is removed, you'll always have junk going on.

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1165286]Adulterous not Alcoholic; I think you are getting your A's mixed with him.[/QUOTE]


I would go with both from what I've heard

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[quote=MTK;1165305]I would go with both from what I've heard[/quote]

and yet this guy is an employee for the Skins. Great hire.

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Cooley has always seemed like the frat boy type to me.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1165279]"Fun" times at Redskins Park. Some things never change[/quote]

[quote=SmootSmack;1165298]Agree that Cooley has to understand his position is different from others. [B]I won't comment on other stuff[/B][/quote]

Oh great. Same old SS - tease us with "No Comment." You could have said "I [U]can't[/U] comment on the other stuff" indicating you just don't know or aren't at liberty to disclose anything.

But, nooooooo ... "I [u]won't[/u] comment" indicating you DO know about the "fun" times and/or dysfunction at Redskins Park, but just aren't going to tell us anything -- AND, to be clear, you DO comment by saying "some things never change." Clearly, you are a deeply sadistic troll that likes to torture us by inciting rampant worst case speculation. I hate that I will be refreshing this page every 10 minutes to see if you provide us with another tidbit as to what's really going on. Damn you SS. Damn you to hell!! (Just kidding, please don't leave again! please? please?)

So ...
What "things never change"?
Is there a power struggle going on?
If so, who is on whose side?
Who is winning? Why?
Is Scot McC on his way out?
Is BA threatened by Scot McC?
Does Danny dislike Scot McC?
Does Jay secretly have a Scot McC voodoo doll and pins?
Does Scot secretly have Jay and BA voodoo dolls and pins?
Does BA secretly have a brain??

INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW!

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1165322][B]Oh great. Same old SS - tease us with "No Comment." [/B]You could have said "I [U]can't[/U] comment on the other stuff" indicating you just don't know or aren't at liberty to disclose anything.

[B]But, nooooooo ... "I [u]won't[/u] comment" indicating you DO know about the "fun" times and/or dysfunction at Redskins Park, but just aren't going to tell us anything -- AND, to be clear, you DO comment by saying "some things never change." Clearly, you are a deeply sadistic troll that likes to torture us by inciting rampant worst case speculation. [/B] I hate that I will be refreshing this page every 10 minutes to see if you provide us with another tidbit as to what's really going on. Damn you SS. Damn you to hell!! (Just kidding, please don't leave again! please? please?)

So ...
What "things never change"?
Is there a power struggle going on?
If so, who is on whose side?
Who is winning? Why?
Is Scot McC on his way out?
Is BA threatened by Scot McC?
Does Danny dislike Scot McC?
Does Jay secretly have a Scot McC voodoo doll and pins?
Does Scot secretly have Jay and BA voodoo dolls and pins?
Does BA secretly have a brain??

INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW![/quote]

:laughing2:laughing2:laughing2

Right on Joe (SS you are still the man)

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1165322]Oh great. Same old SS - tease us with "No Comment." You could have said "I [U]can't[/U] comment on the other stuff" indicating you just don't know or aren't at liberty to disclose anything.

But, nooooooo ... "I [u]won't[/u] comment" indicating you DO know about the "fun" times and/or dysfunction at Redskins Park, but just aren't going to tell us anything -- AND, to be clear, you DO comment by saying "some things never change." Clearly, you are a deeply sadistic troll that likes to torture us by inciting rampant worst case speculation. I hate that I will be refreshing this page every 10 minutes to see if you provide us with another tidbit as to what's really going on. Damn you SS. Damn you to hell!! (Just kidding, please don't leave again! please? please?)

So ...
What "things never change"?
Is there a power struggle going on?
If so, who is on whose side?
Who is winning? Why?
Is Scot McC on his way out?
Is BA threatened by Scot McC?
Does Danny dislike Scot McC?
Does Jay secretly have a Scot McC voodoo doll and pins?
Does Scot secretly have Jay and BA voodoo dolls and pins?
Does BA secretly have a brain??

INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW![/quote]

How I am picturing JoeRedskins while he posted this:

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[quote=MTK;1165305]I would go with both from what I've heard[/quote]

Fair enough.

To those wondering why Cooley said it without getting in trouble some of the tin hat speculation is someone told him to say it higher up the chain. Read the article I posted.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1165325]How I am picturing JoeRedskins while he posted this:

[IMG]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/67/66/ed/6766ed60c8efe3ee4715995bb7c1541c.jpg[/IMG][/quote]


JoeRedskins: "I WANT THE TRUTH!!!"
SmootSmack: "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!"