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[quote=NC_Skins;1145614][url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/16/cnn-edits-out-milwaukee-victims-sister-sherelle-sm/]CNN edits out Milwaukee victim's sister Sherelle Smith calling for violence in 'the suburbs' - Washington Times[/url][/quote]

Good catch.

First, it doesn't bother me she is saying it becuase she is hurting. She lost a brother which is tragic. At the same time I would ask her and her family, what did you do to stop your brother/son from leading a life of crime?

This guy was a flat-out dangerous piece of crap and was armed to the teeth at the time of getting killed. He made extremely poor choices which lead to his death.

His wrap sheet is quite extensive: [url=http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2016/08/14/man-shot-milwaukee-police-subject-witness-intimidation-case/88721094/]Man killed by Milwaukee police had lengthy record[/url]

"
Smith had been in trouble with the law dating back at least to 2011, according to arrest records released by the Milwaukee County Sheriff's Office late Sunday. He was arrested or ticketed nine times in that period — for the shooting, a robbery, carrying a concealed weapon, theft, possession of heroin and more. His most recent arrest was July 22 for possession of cocaine, records show.

Last year, Smith was charged with first-degree recklessly endangering safety and with witness intimidation, but the charges were dismissed, court records show."

This guy isn't the flag bearer of any movement.

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[url=http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/new-york-times-gave-hillary-veto/]New York Times Gave Hillary Veto Power | LifeZette[/url]

clear as day, Clinton campaign allowed to pic and chose content of the media:

The email exchange also indicates that Palmieri misunderstood the terms of the agreement. She wrote that she thought the campaign would be able to pick the quotes that would be used. Leibovich responded, "I wanted the option to use all — and you could veto what you didn't want. That's why I selected the 5 or 6 I sent to you...The moose is good, but I'd really love to use the other things I sent, too. They were all on point. Sorry for mis-communique here, but do you think you can check?"

Palmieri seemed satisfied.

"Pleasure doing business!" she wrote


sad...zero ethics and completely biased. Now ny times is suppose to be a leader in journalism...how is this appropriate? Inexcusable

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[quote=Chico23231;1151771][url=http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/new-york-times-gave-hillary-veto/]New York Times Gave Hillary Veto Power | LifeZette[/url]

clear as day, Clinton campaign allowed to pic and chose content of the media:

The email exchange also indicates that Palmieri misunderstood the terms of the agreement. She wrote that she thought the campaign would be able to pick the quotes that would be used. Leibovich responded, "I wanted the option to use all — and you could veto what you didn't want. That's why I selected the 5 or 6 I sent to you...The moose is good, but I'd really love to use the other things I sent, too. They were all on point. Sorry for mis-communique here, but do you think you can check?"

Palmieri seemed satisfied.

"Pleasure doing business!" she wrote


sad...zero ethics and completely biased. Now ny times is suppose to be a leader in journalism...how is this appropriate? Inexcusable[/quote]



So do you think Trump still believes any press is good press,or just when he wants it?

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[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/cnn-cuts-ties-with-donna-brazile-after-hacked-emails-suggest-she-gave-clinton-campaign-debate-questions-183855590.html[/url]

CNN quietly cut ties with Donna Brazile, the acting Democratic National Committee chair and a longtime contributor on the cable news network, after hacked emails published by WikiLeaks revealed that she had provided questions to the Hillary Clinton campaign in advance of a town hall and debate hosted by CNN during the Democratic primary.


Unbelievable folks. People should be upset

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I know it's hard to separate the political out of the media bias question, but I am hoping anyone who replies to this will try to. (I'm also hoping SM will stop drinking, and DS will become the best owner ever)

Take this headline displayed on yahoo, and from abcnews top stories:
[QUOTE]Jeff Sessions: Guantanamo Bay is 'a very fine place'[/QUOTE]

This opening Paragraph:
[QUOTE]Attorney General Jeff Sessions says he has no qualms sending newly-captured terror suspects to the Guantanamo Bay detention center, describing it as a "very fine place."[/QUOTE]

And his actual reply to a question about whether or not he would be in favor of shutting down the facility a few paragraphs later:
[QUOTE]"Well, I have not favored that," Sessions said. "I've been there a number of times as a Senator, and it's just a very fine place for holding these kind of dangerous criminals. We've spent a lot of money fixing it up. And I'm inclined to the view that it remains a perfectly acceptable place. And I think the fact that a lot of the criticisms have just been totally exaggerated."[/QUOTE]


My question is - do you think the headline gives an accurate summary of his statement?

Everyone knows I feel there is a distinct bias, and I believe that this type of, imo, blatant emotion molding headline plays a big part of that.

Just a discussion for a cold dreary dismal day and the day after a dismal opening to FA

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This is getting ridiculous.


[url=http://www.politicususa.com/2017/03/10/trump-kicks-reporters-white-house-photo-op-questions.html]Trump Kicks Reporters Out Of White House Photo Op For Asking Questions[/url]

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[url=http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-trump-media-coverage-harvard-kass-0521-20170519-column.html]Media fair to Trump? Harvard says no. - Chicago Tribune[/url]

Harvard says it's true. Truely scary imo

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[quote=Chico23231;1170561][url=http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-trump-media-coverage-harvard-kass-0521-20170519-column.html]Media fair to Trump? Harvard says no. - Chicago Tribune[/url]

Harvard says it's true. Truely scary imo[/quote]

I agree with Harvard, it's rare to find any good Trump news coming out of any outlet that isn't Fox nowadays. The question is, what do you propose is the solution? Do you ask journalists to keep their bias out of the news they are supposed to report? Maybe they only publish reactionary pieces that are neither critical nor encouraging of Trump? Maybe we all just shut up and trust that he's got our best interests at heart? The reason we don't trust Trump is the reason right wingers don't trust the media, it's because we suspect that there are underlying motives behind everything he/they do. Only in the media's case they don't try to hide it.

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[quote=Chico23231;1170561][url=http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-trump-media-coverage-harvard-kass-0521-20170519-column.html]Media fair to Trump? Harvard says no. - Chicago Tribune[/url]

Harvard says it's true. Truly scary imo[/quote]


No, not at all. The artical still didn't address the fact that Trump has brought this all on himself ,it admits it's self inflicted" but doesn't go on to address it.It also doesn't address the facts in it's own numbers.Explain why FOX(the trump network as they call it) even had a majority of bad news reporting on Trump (52%)It is the press's job to question our goverment seems to me the press is doing a good job and as the circus continues we will see more of it.Does this mean it should stop just becuase it's negative???Maybe the tangerine President should act more like a President and less like a DICtator.

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Well written piece supported by facts of a non political source.

Best part of article:

Many beltway journalists are essentially establishment creatures, gatekeepers for the political ruling class, members of that class and fierce guardians of their place in the empire. The political class sees Trump and the 62 million Americans who voted for him as the stuff they scrape off their shoes.

While Trump's 80-20 negative coverage ratio is amazing, Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush also received much negative coverage in their first 100 days, at about 60-40 ratios.

So how was President Obama covered in his first 100 days? With a 60-40 positive to negative ratio, according to the Harvard study.

"[B]That's a significant shift, a significant difference," says Bevan. "I think this is reflective of the fact that the media does root from the press box and they do cheer for certain personalities and they do cheer against others.[/B]"

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[quote=Chico23231;1170564]Well written piece supported by facts of a non political source.

Best part of article:

Many beltway journalists are essentially establishment creatures, gatekeepers for the political ruling class, members of that class and fierce guardians of their place in the empire. The political class sees Trump and the 62 million Americans who voted for him as the stuff they scrape off their shoes.

While Trump's 80-20 negative coverage ratio is amazing, Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush also received much negative coverage in their first 100 days, at about 60-40 ratios.

So how was President Obama covered in his first 100 days? With a 60-40 positive to negative ratio, according to the Harvard study.

"[B]That's a significant shift, a significant difference," says Bevan. "I think this is reflective of the fact that the media does root from the press box and they do cheer for certain personalities and they do cheer against others.[/B]"[/quote]

How do they explain that even the "press that supports trump" reports a 52% negative news about him?Harvard has been wrong before.The Tangerine turd brings it on himself.

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Giantone, I'm just providing basis to what I've noticed for the last 5-6 years. The top offender is cnn in that article, followed by NBC and cbs. This is the mainstream media...we should be very disturbed. This isn't fox, MSNBC.

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[quote=Giantone;1170416]This is getting ridiculous.


[url=http://www.politicususa.com/2017/03/10/trump-kicks-reporters-white-house-photo-op-questions.html]Trump Kicks Reporters Out Of White House Photo Op For Asking Questions[/url][/quote]

LOL....nice anti Trump website.
Every single article is a Trump smear.
I wouldnt believe a word they say.
This is the bias horsecrap Chico is talking about and you're fanning the flames.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1170572]LOL....nice anti Trump website.
Every single article is a Trump smear.
I wouldnt believe a word they say.
This is the bias horsecrap Chico is talking about and you're fanning the flames.[/quote]


No, just spreading the news .These people are not making this stuff up.Trump is really this bad.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1170572]LOL....nice anti Trump website.
Every single article is a Trump smear.
I wouldnt believe a word they say.
This is the bias horsecrap Chico is talking about and you're fanning the flames.[/quote]

So ,it's wrong?Trump did let the American reporters stay along with the Russian?

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I stopped reading once I realized its a trash website.

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The big bad media isn't fair to Trump? Cry us a river FFS.

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Its the lefty websites that are doing the crying.....
If they actually reported news instead of running a smear campaign they might get better treatment.

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Trump is smearing himself just fine, biggest fucking idiot we've see as President

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Gonna but pretty cool 7.8 years from now when Ivanka gets in.

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But shouldnt the media be presenting important information in a neutral manor and let the public decide? This is what the question is...the media should not be influencing the public by pompous sensationalize reporting that is mostly based on opinion and not facts. Plus using non-verified sources or just using anonymous sources seems like it leaves a lot of facts unchecked and assumptions to be made...

It's a fact the mainstream media is staunchly bias in this case.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1170576]I stopped reading once I realized its a trash website.[/quote]

To a trump supporter any site is a "trash site" unless it follows the book of trump so the cult can follow.

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[quote=Chico23231;1170581]But shouldnt the media be presenting important information in a neutral manor and let the public decide? This is what the question is...the media should not be influencing the public by pompous sensationalize reporting that is mostly based on opinion and not facts. Plus using non-verified sources or just using anonymous sources seems like it leaves a lot of facts unchecked and assumptions to be made...

It's a fact the mainstream media is staunchly bias in this case.[/quote]


I asked this question before and I will ask it again,what "MSM(main stream media) will you accept?Name the "news organization" you will listen to?
I also didn't get an answer about FOX reporting bad news on Trump 52% of the time,HELL .............even they know they can't keep the lies up anymore!

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[quote=Chico23231;1170581]But shouldnt the media be presenting important information in a neutral manor and let the public decide? This is what the question is...the media should not be influencing the public by pompous sensationalize reporting that is mostly based on opinion and not facts. Plus using non-verified sources or just using anonymous sources seems like it leaves a lot of facts unchecked and assumptions to be made...

It's a fact the mainstream media is staunchly bias in this case.[/quote]

That sounds nice but in reality media organizations exist to make money and as long as that is the case they will pick and choose the angle to report.

Also, we need to start separating credible places like the AP and Reuters from media that tries to pass op-eds off like they're actually news. The lines between news and opinions are being intentionally blurred because they are getting results. Yeah, I get my news from MSNBC, but I stick to articles they are publishing that were written by the AP or another credible company like Reuters.

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[quote=Giantone;1170582]To a trump supporter any site is a "trash site" unless it follows the book of trump so the cult can follow.[/quote]

Every single article on the front page was about Trump.
Every single article was a negative article about Trump.
Duh......
Its just web space to have an anti Trump circle jerk, its not news.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1170587]Every single article on the front page was about Trump.
Every single article was a negative article about Trump.
Duh......
Its just web space to have an anti Trump circle jerk, its not news.[/quote]

So what you're saying is, if Trump says something, or signs yet another bill/executive order, that's not news? Or the media shouldn't report it when he signs a bill or does something that directly contradicts something he said when Obama was president?

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[quote=mooby;1170588]So what you're saying is, if Trump says something, or signs yet another bill/executive order, that's not news? Or the media shouldn't report it when he signs a bill or does something that directly contradicts something he said when Obama was president?[/quote]

No, thats not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that wasnt a credible news website.
I dont even know if I'd call it news.
It reads more like a John Podesta/Wolf Blitzer blog.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1170589]No, thats not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that wasnt a credible news website.
I dont even know if I'd call it news.
It reads more like a John Podesta/Wolf Blitzer blog.[/quote]

I'm not gonna defend that website considering I don't consider them a reputable source either. But this convo sounds like the lines are being blurred between that site and the credible ones. But then again, the only credible ones nowadays are the AP/Reuters/maybe a couple others.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1170589]No, thats not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that wasnt a credible news website.
I dont even know if I'd call it news.
It reads more like a John Podesta/Wolf Blitzer blog.[/quote]

Here knock yourself out.The news is the exact same!

[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/us/politics/trump-russia-meeting-american-reporters-blocked.html?_r=0[/url]


[url=http://www.npr.org/2017/05/11/527990596/trump-bars-u-s-reporters-from-meeting-with-russian-officials]Trump Bars U.S. Reporters From Meeting With Russian Officials : NPR[/url]


[url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-denies-trump-gave-classified-information-to-russian-officials-1494890345[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1170615]Here knock yourself out.The news is the exact same!

[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/us/politics/trump-russia-meeting-american-reporters-blocked.html?_r=0[/url]


[url=http://www.npr.org/2017/05/11/527990596/trump-bars-u-s-reporters-from-meeting-with-russian-officials]Trump Bars U.S. Reporters From Meeting With Russian Officials : NPR[/url]


[url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-denies-trump-gave-classified-information-to-russian-officials-1494890345[/url][/quote]

Yea yea...saw it on some other websites too.
But thanks for being there for me sweetheart.
And not the first time he's kicked reporters out.
In most cases they deserve it.

Doesnt change anything though, the left driven media sucks monkey ass.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1170616]Yea yea...saw it on some other websites too.
But thanks for being there for me sweetheart.
And not the first time he's kicked reporters out.
In most cases they deserve it.

Doesnt change anything though, the left driven media sucks monkey ass.[/quote]

Ok so you agree it's not the messenger but the message that is the problem and that falls on Trump.

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[quote=Giantone;1170624]Ok so you agree it's not the messenger but the message that is the problem and that falls on Trump.[/quote]

LOL....no, I dont agree at all.
I totally support how Trump treats the media.
The problem falls on the media.
See previous posts where I state that the left driven media sucks red baboon ass.
The media doesn't show up at the White House to get news.
They show up to hopefully get dirt on Trump and the Republican party.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1170625]LOL....no, I dont agree at all.
I totally support how Trump treats the media.
The problem falls on the media.
See previous posts where I state that the left driven media sucks red baboon ass.
The media doesn't show up at the White House to get news.
They show up to hopefully get dirt on Trump and the Republican party.[/quote]

Maybe Trump and the republican party should stop giving them the dirt(news) to write about and go about running the country instead of running a circus.

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Haha...no....
The American media in general was a joke way before Trump got into office.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1170632]Haha...no....
The American media in general was a joke way before Trump got into office.[/quote]

LOL, ahhh no.it wasn't until the "alternative facts" crew took hold and started screaming fake news that the media was question .Thank God the media has stood firm in the unrelentless coverage of the Tangerine buffoon in the white house.It's their job to question the President and that is what they do.

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[quote=Giantone;1170636]LOL, ahhh no.it wasn't until the "alternative facts" crew took hold and started screaming fake news that the media was question .Thank God the media has stood firm in the unrelentless coverage of the Tangerine buffoon in the white house.It's their job to question the President and that is what they do.[/quote]

Pure bullshit.
The media is mostly liberal based pro left.
It doesnt matter which republican is the president, they will go after him on any angle they can dream up.
And their "job" is to sell stories.
And make profits off of that.
They dont have to be truthful stories, they just have to sell.
You try to make it sound like they are some kind of civil service.
:stop:

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Here dude, you can print 100 copies of this and roll around in it.

[url=http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/donald-trump-is-a-menace-to-the-world-opinion-a-1148471.html]Donald Trump Is a Menace to the World: Opinion - SPIEGEL ONLINE[/url]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1170637]Pure bullshit.
The media is mostly liberal based pro left.
It doesnt matter which republican is the president, they will go after him on any angle they can dream up.
And their "job" is to sell stories.
And make profits off of that.
They dont have to be truthful stories, they just have to sell.
You try to make it sound like they are some kind of civil service.
:stop:[/quote]

My mistake I apologize.I mean after all no one came after Obama did they .


Don't choke on it.

[url=http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/23/news/la-pn-obama-suffers-more-negative-press-than-gop-pew-study-shows-20120423]Obama suffers more negative press than GOP, Pew study shows - latimes[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1170640]My mistake I apologize.I mean after all no one came after Obama did they .


Don't choke on it.

[URL="http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/23/news/la-pn-obama-suffers-more-negative-press-than-gop-pew-study-shows-20120423"]Obama suffers more negative press than GOP, Pew study shows - latimes[/URL][/quote]

It's different. Obama was terrible, therefore the negative media coverage was acceptable. In this case Trump is just a good guy trying to clean up Obama's mess, so it's not ok.

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[quote=Giantone;1170640]My mistake I apologize.I mean after all no one came after Obama did they .


Don't choke on it.

[url=http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/23/news/la-pn-obama-suffers-more-negative-press-than-gop-pew-study-shows-20120423]Obama suffers more negative press than GOP, Pew study shows - latimes[/url][/quote]

Ummm - from your article:

[quote]The media coverage of Obama was particularly rough at the beginning of the year, [B]with an average of nearly 47% negative stories [/B]compared with slightly more than 15% positive stories during the first four weeks of January, Pew found. As the economy and his poll numbers improved in March, so did the favorability of his media coverage, but the president still has yet to see more positive coverage than negative in 2012.[/quote]

The Harvard analysis put Trump's at around 80% negative. If Pres Obama had EVER received 80% negative press reports I believe we would have had a societal mass mental breakdown on our hands because of how easy liberals are offended.

I would say in a society in which about 50% of the public leans toward the left and 50% lean toward the right a 47% negative is what you should expect.(which is why I don't look at the 52% negative from Fox as a dispositive to the fact that the media en masse is blatantly biased)

The sheer hysteria and tidal wave that is the mainstream media simply causes a large portion of the population to ignore them. Personally, I haven't turned CNN on in months, and the network news shows and newsfeeds are really useless as well.