Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

Kelly wasn't a bad coach-he got decent seasons out of the likes of Mile Vick, Nick Foles, and Mark Sanchez! But as a General Manager he's Millenesque. I also think the poster that said he treats grown men like college kids has a point, too. The player-coach relationship needs to be different in the pros for that reason and I don't think he transitioned in that regard very well. DeSean Jackson is a case in point.

And can anyone see any future at all on Bradford at this point? He's an injury prone Captain Checkdown. I'm tired of hearing how next year will be his breakout year. No; it won't. Dude isn't all that special and is made of glass to boot.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=Chico23231;1135152]Eagles have a lot of problems on the Oline. JPeters is a year older, still effective when not injured. Lane Johnson has not panned at RT, probably a below average starter by NFL standards. Jason Kelce at Center is still good-very good player. But their guards are horrific.

They have a lot of work to do along the line. I think Demarco Murray would be great at Dallas or here in DC, but Eagles have too many questions along the line and with future scheme.

As for Bradford, terrible scheme fit for Kelly, but I think his future with the Eagles depends on the HC hire. I think Bradford will be highly sought after if he hits the market. The Eagles have god aweful WRs...lotta drops[/quote]

Totally agreed on the state of the o-line. Keep in mind that so much better for Murray means something better than 700 yards, which is what he's got this year.

I imagine 3.9 yards per carry, 1100 yards, as they try to go three yards and a cloud of dust while they try to develop a rookie QB (I think Bradford takes an offer somewhere else).

I think you and I are saying the same thing, they'll be terrible. But Murray will fit better.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

I think Coughlin is next in the East...No way I see him back next year

Hearing on sports radio that Tennessee got rid of Wissenhunt because he wasn't a good locker room coach and was cold when dealing with the FO/organization. That's sorta the same critic of Dip Shit Chip. Hearing Cleveland and Miami more realistic possibility...I think Chip would be a disaster in Miami. They have serious problems in the locker room and Front office.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

I imagine Philly sports radio is a gold mine today. Idiot after idiots calling in and freakin out.

If you troll the Philly message boards for sheer laughter its a beautiful day...you have the Chip Kelly apologist on one side and the eff you dip shit Chip on the other side. Philly fans are eating themselves today, just beautiful to see the dysfunction.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

I was terribly unimpressed with Sam Bradford. Maybe he needs to be in a traditional offense. Just seems that if you knock him around or get anyone near him he folds. Plus he has no mobility at all. Would not want him at all as my starter.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

If the eagles are smart they should hire Hue Jackson.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=Chico23231;1135165]I imagine Philly sports radio is a gold mine today. Idiot after idiots calling in and freakin out.

If you troll the Philly message boards for sheer laughter its a beautiful day...you have the Chip Kelly apologist on one side and the eff you dip shit Chip on the other side. Philly fans are eating themselves today, just beautiful to see the dysfunction.[/quote]

I don't know any Eagles message boards, but I might have to take time out of my day to be a troll.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

now some idiot espn sportscaster is trying to paint the rosey picture of how great the eagles coach job could be..actually talked about how the redskins might not be able to keep cousins and how bad the rest of the nfc east could be and the right coach could come into philly and they dominate…REALLY???? Wish in one hand and crap in the other and tell me which one fills up first!!!!

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1135170]I don't know any Eagles message boards, but I might have to take time out of my day to be a troll.[/quote]

you dont need to troll them, they do a fine job all by themselves.

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"I don't want to sound too optimistic, but the Eagles are fucked
The dark days of the 60's and 70's are upon us. It's too late. King Lurie fiddled with Asian women while Philly burned. Now, you (not me) will pay the price."

"You people are gonna take it to the ELBOW"

[url=http://igglephans.com/]Philadelphia Eagles Fans' Unofficial Message Board / Forum --IGGLEPHANS[/url]

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

Is it wrong that I get sooooo much joy from Philly being f'd for the next several years b/c of Kelly? I mean, they have real, deep systemic problems at this point. Can I finally have hope that they will now be the new basement dwellers for an extended period of time?

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1135169]If the eagles are smart they should hire Hue Jackson.[/quote]

Yes. I agree. Jackson would be a very solid hire for all sorts of reasons. For one thing, very much a players coach.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=over the mountain;1135174]you dont need to troll them, they do a fine job all by themselves.

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"I don't want to sound too optimistic, but the Eagles are fucked
The dark days of the 60's and 70's are upon us. It's too late. King Lurie fiddled with Asian women while Philly burned. Now, you (not me) will pay the price."

"You people are gonna take it to the ELBOW"

[url=http://igglephans.com/]Philadelphia Eagles Fans' Unofficial Message Board / Forum --IGGLEPHANS[/url][/quote]

not bad, but the most ridiculous board is bleeding eagles green. after the Skins ass kicking last week most folks agreed the better team lost that day.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=Chico23231;1135142]Its tough to call him a good coach.[B] He may be good x and o...jury out imo, but he doesn't handle professional athletes very well and he alienated his locker room.
[/B]
Plus the whole GM thing, he has proven to be effing terrible at that. No NFL team will give him personnel control every again.[/quote]

This is the college HC pitfall. In college, a stellar head coach can have near god status for his players. He can improve scholarships, he can nearly control their lives. In the NFL, it's a job. You don't mess with their health, their pay, or the lifestyle. Kelly stated frequently that he didn't focus on players health, he certainly tried to control their lifestyle, and just didn't understand the pay system very well, imo.

His ego is too high for him to make another run at the NFL, and I don't think he will be back. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see him sit out next year then cherry pick a college team to go to.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=rocnrik;1135172]now some idiot espn sportscaster is trying to paint the rosey picture of how great the eagles coach job could be..actually talked about how the redskins might not be able to keep cousins and how bad the rest of the nfc east could be and the right coach could come into philly and they dominate…REALLY???? Wish in one hand and crap in the other and tell me which one fills up first!!!![/quote]

ESPN has become TMZ. Rarely watch it anymore.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=rocnrik;1135172]now some idiot espn sportscaster is trying to paint the rosey picture of how great the eagles coach job could be..actually talked about how the redskins might not be able to keep cousins and how bad the rest of the nfc east could be and the right coach could come into philly and they dominate…REALLY???? Wish in one hand and crap in the other and tell me which one fills up first!!!![/quote]

did he say "however" real loud and obnoxious?

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=Chico23231;1135165]I imagine Philly sports radio is a gold mine today. Idiot after idiots calling in and freakin out.

If you troll the Philly message boards for sheer laughter its a beautiful day...you have the Chip Kelly apologist on one side and the eff you dip shit Chip on the other side. Philly fans are eating themselves today, just beautiful to see the dysfunction.[/quote]

It is a goldmine. It's days like today that make me LOVE living here.

Most fans calling in are in total agreement that letting him go was absolutely the right move. Very few Chip apologists calling into talk radio. So there's not a lot of disagreement, but the anger they're feeling about how disjointed the roster has become is absolutely glorious.

They're so pissed about lack of investment in the line, complete mismatch of styles, and now they're so afraid of the long term QB solution because they know Bradford is going to view the Eagles as just another team looking for a QB. He has no reason to return.

Even if he does, he's not the answer. People here feel so hopeless about the QB situation, it's so great.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=Schneed10;1135184]It is a goldmine. It's days like today that make me LOVE living here.

Most fans calling in are in total agreement that letting him go was absolutely the right move. Very few Chip apologists calling into talk radio. So there's not a lot of disagreement, but the anger they're feeling about how disjointed the roster has become is absolutely glorious.

They're so pissed about lack of investment in the line, complete mismatch of styles, and now they're so afraid of the long term QB solution because they know Bradford is going to view the Eagles as just another team looking for a QB. He has no reason to return.

Even if he does, he's not the answer. People here feel so hopeless about the QB situation, it's so great.[/quote]

luv it...on the message boards every now and then someone will post a reminder that Andy Reid just clinched a playoff birth reeling off 9 straight wins with an "inferior" team (of course).

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

Funny, make sure you read the back story on how they got his number.
[url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo2K25NrKbY[/url]

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

Best quote about dip shit Chip: "His offense works great against teenagers"

Not so much in the NFL

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1135109]Coughlin will be asked to retire, if he doesn't agree then the ax will fall.[/quote]



Nope , it's already kinda out there that the coaching tree is safe unless he choose's to retire but the Team likes everyone and Mcadoo and Spags have a strong bond.If one gets the head job the other could very well stay the one in danger is Jerry Reese .Had the Giants been able to just make a stop on any of the last drives of the eight loss's say , Carolina , Cowboys ,Patriots you know what would be happening .Fact they didn't the Skins are the Champs of the east and that is the fact.Giants need a Defense and a tight end their salary cap is very good ,look to see them active in FA .

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=Chico23231;1135185]luv it...on the message boards every now and then someone will post a reminder that Andy Reid just clinched a playoff birth reeling off 9 straight wins with an "inferior" team (of course).[/quote]


Funny thing is if anyone would have given the Skins what they want for RGIII it would have been Chip Kelly.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=Giantone;1135200]Nope , it's already kinda out there that the coaching tree is safe unless he choose's to retire but the Team likes everyone and Mcadoo and Spags have a strong bond.If one gets the head job the other could very well stay the one in danger is Jerry Reese .Had the Giants been able to just make a stop on any of the last drives of the eight loss's say , Carolina , Cowboys ,Patriots you know what would be happening .Fact they didn't the Skins are the Champs of the east and that is the fact.Giants need a Defense and a tight end their salary cap is very good ,look to see them active in FA .[/quote]

Giants are definitely the team most likely to get things going in the right direction, along with the Redskins. They need to shore up the defensive side of the ball. It won't take all that much to make enough of an improvement on defense to support Eli and OBJ. They will do plenty of scoring.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

Is it unfair to say Chip Kelly was basically Spurrier with a better set of "toys" in the toy box until he started casting them off? Kelly succeeded early because of the personnel on his team, if D-Jax, Maclin, & McCoy were still on the Eagles? Who knows.

Also, a stat I didn't know about until today is that their defense has been on the field more than any other defense over the past 3 seasons. That high pace on offense will backfire if you aren't scoring as quick as you are running plays.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

Kinda hard to fire a guy who has won 2 rings

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1135210]Kinda hard to fire a guy who has won 2 rings[/quote]

That's why I've been saying forced retirement or hit the highway if he refuses.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

Also on ESPN Radio this morning they said some former Eagles were sitting in the press box and explaining how simply that offense is by calling out plays merely based on formations.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1135214]That's why I've been saying forced retirement or hit the highway if he refuses.[/quote]


He could very well chose to retire and in that case Mcadoo and Spaggs would both be in contention as would Josh McDaniels all I'm saying is that he won't be fired and the two coordinators could stay with no problem.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

Coughlin is on a one year deal anyway so he technically won't be fired.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=rocnrik;1135172]now some idiot espn sportscaster is trying to paint the rosey picture of how great the eagles coach job could be..[B]actually talked about how the redskins might not be able to keep cousins[/B] and how bad the rest of the nfc east could be and the right coach could come into philly and they dominate…REALLY???? Wish in one hand and crap in the other and tell me which one fills up first!!!![/quote]

He is an idiot if he's never heard of the Franchise Tag. Which of their idiots was it, if you can recall?

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1135265]He is an idiot if he's never heard of the Franchise Tag. Which of their idiots was it, if you can recall?[/quote]

I heard the same thing this morning. It was one of the guests on first take. They had three guests today and I think his name is Ohm Youngmisuk. It was a brutal show of ignorance amongst 4 homers.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

It was First take..I was actually on this site reading when I heard the guy on the TV saying something about Cousins and the skins not being able to keep him??

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

that show is literally only relevant because people constantly talk about all the stupid things they say there. no one's been fired, so i can only assume that it's purposeful.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=rocnrik;1135280]It was First take..I was actually on this site reading when I heard the guy on the TV saying something about Cousins and the skins not being able to keep him??[/quote]

Nailed it

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14472270/bill-belichick-defends-chip-kelly-says-lot-ex-eagles-not-doing-too-much]Bill Belichick defends Chip Kelly, says a lot of ex-Eagles not 'doing too much'[/url]

Also, as it relates to Kelly's personnel acumen, which had come under scrutiny, Belichick added, "I'd say a lot of the players that were on the Eagles, that are no longer on the Eagles, aren't really doing too much for anybody else either."

Oh really?

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=Chico23231;1135323][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14472270/bill-belichick-defends-chip-kelly-says-lot-ex-eagles-not-doing-too-much]Bill Belichick defends Chip Kelly, says a lot of ex-Eagles not 'doing too much'[/url]

Also, as it relates to Kelly's personnel acumen, which had come under scrutiny, Belichick added, "I'd say a lot of the players that were on the Eagles, that are no longer on the Eagles, aren't really doing too much for anybody else either."

Oh really?[/quote]

I think it's funny that this is the second coach, connected to Belichick, who has been fired for basically taking over a team and running it into the ground (the other is Josh McDaniel). It is my opinion that these coaches have been trying to in some way emulate what Belichick has done in terms of player personnel. However, both Kelly and McDaniel do not have Tom Brady or Belichick's ability to coach up any player.

Belichick has been notorious for getting rid of talented players that don't fit his culture. But his coaching abilities and Tom Brady have always allow them to prevail. He also has his Super Bowl rings, which basically give him a free pass (rightfully so) to do whatever he wants.

Chip Kelly has royally f*cked up in Philly, and I really doubt any team would give him a chance after what he has done with the Eagles. While McDaniel has been considered a head coaching candidate, he has yet to find a job as a head coach after his blunder in Denver.

The only way I can see Kelly coaching in the NFL, is if he goes to a team with a strong GM.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1135341]I think it's funny that this is the second coach, connected to Belichick, who has been fired for basically taking over a team and running it into the ground (the other is Josh McDaniel). It is my opinion that these coaches have been trying to in some way emulate what Belichick has done in terms of player personnel. However, both Kelly and McDaniel do not have Tom Brady or Belichick's ability to coach up any player.

Belichick has been notorious for getting rid of talented players that don't fit his culture. But his coaching abilities and Tom Brady have always allow them to prevail. He also has his Super Bowl rings, which basically give him a free pass (rightfully so) to do whatever he wants.

Chip Kelly has royally f*cked up in Philly, and I really doubt any team would give him a chance after what he has done with the Eagles. While McDaniel has been considered a head coaching candidate, he has yet to find a job as a head coach after his blunder in Denver.

The only way I can see Kelly coaching in the NFL, is if he goes to a team with a strong GM.[/quote]

Very true...I find it hypocritical and bush league of Belichick to openly criticize ex Eagle players. That statement was directed at DeSean and Shady. I think that's pretty low as it is incorrect as well...I hope Shady saves this next year and brings it against the Pats.

Re: Chip Kelly Fired
 

josh mcdaniels... got rid of brandon marshall and jay culter so he could start tim tebow.

who the hell would give that guy a job?