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[quote=Skinzman;1126323]The problem is, he is in the final year of his contract and is a FA after this year. We need to know this year who he is, not next.[/quote]

I agree.....I think we already know....he is understandably a young quarterback who continues to make dumb ass choices with the football.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1126317]This is without a doubt the best answer to my question that I've seen yet.[/quote]

I demand a recount

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1126325]I agree.....I think we already know....he is understandably a young quarterback who continues to make dumb ass choices with the football.[/quote]

Yeah thats what has me worried. He just hasnt seemed to make much improvement. He seems to be the same guy he has always been. I was one that was high on Cousins as a rookie, but he seems to be making the same mistakes in year 4 that he was making in year 1 (and even in college). I had expected some improvement, but he doesnt seem to be making much of it. At this point, he is looking like a career backup. Good enough to be in the league, but not good enough to be an every day starter.

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[quote=Skinzman;1126323]The problem is, he is in the final year of his contract and is a FA after this year. We need to know this year who he is, not next.[/quote]

Ok you got me. Ask me at the end of this year then...but this is a dumb question at this point.

Fact is he'll be back next year regardless of what anyone on this forum thinks about him.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1126330]Ok you got me. Ask me at the end of this year then...but this is a dumb question at this point.

Fact is he'll be back next year regardless of what anyone on this forum thinks about him.[/quote]

Thats a pretty big assumption. Not saying it will happen, but if some GM decides that Kirk could turn into something, they might just offer a pretty big deal. Not a deal like the elites are getting, but still a big deal. Atp, if someone offered him 15 mil a year, I dont see how the Redskins can match that unless its only a one year deal. Even on a one year deal, thats way to high for what he has achieved so far. Would be better to go after Hasselbeck (or stick with McCoy) as a bridge QB than pay that.

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[quote=Skinzman;1126331]Thats a pretty big assumption. Not saying it will happen, but if some GM decides that Kirk could turn into something, they might just offer a pretty big deal. Not a deal like the elites are getting, but still a big deal. Atp, if someone offered him 15 mil a year, I dont see how the Redskins can match that unless its only a one year deal. Even on a one year deal, thats way to high for what he has achieved so far. Would be better to go after Hasselbeck (or stick with McCoy) as a bridge QB than pay that.[/quote]

It is an assumption. That is what we do here - assume, opine, guess, bitch, dream...no one knows for certain who will be back next year. My assumption is KC will be the only QB retained...for less than 15 mil.

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If they pay Cousins much more than the equivalent of a ham sandwich, my trust in Scotty McC will be severely shaken.

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[quote][QUOTE=Mattyk;1126244]His arm is limited. Those type of throws just aren't his strength.[/quote]
[quote=Bucket;1126324]I don't agree with that Matt. I'm not sold Kirk is a starter, but his arm isn't limited. I've seen him make all the throws.[/quote][/QUOTE]I think you're both right. Kirk can make all the throws. But from what I've seen his arm isn't strong enough to make those throws without perfect form. Imo he has to throw off platform from a muddy pocket or off balance etc. He doesn't have the arm strength in those situations to drive the ball with velocity and that causes him to spray passes off target (high,low, short, behind etc).

I also think the current emphasis on getting the ball out quick has Kirk playing close too hurried. I think Kirk is playing with an over emphasis on not taking sacks. Its good to get the ball out quick and beat the rush etc. But when you're rushing and it effects your footwork and you miss a wide open gimme throws (like the one he missed to Garcon in the flat on (iirc) 2nd and 2 in the Jets) then its a problem. Like Wooden said ~'be quick, but don't hurry'. Also, and maybe its mere co-incidence but I wonder if Griffin being active put Kirk on more pressure?

BUT part and parcel with Kirk's struggles is the coaching. The gameplan and playcalling remains predictable. In broad strokes without getting too far into the weeds; Jay's offense lacks disguise. By and large on first down if its a run he's going to use a formation that indicates run. I-Form or Single back usually with base personnel or 2/3 TEs. IF Jay drop back passes on 1st down its usually from a formation that he doesn't use to run. Shotgun 1 back or under center 3 wide or empty (and the pass is usually a screen). You know why defense seem to be all over the WR screen to Crowder on 1st down? Because its one of the only passes we run from that shotgun formation on 1st down.
[B]Imho If they want to be a better run team they need to run the ball from some of the same formations, personnel and down and distance that they pass from.[/B]

TLDR: Jay's offense 1st down= run from base formations/base personnel.
IF Jay's offense comes out in a pass set on 1st down its going to be a pass.
Defenses have a good read on what's coming based on formations.

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[quote=30gut;1126344]I think you're both right. Kirk can make all the throws. [B]But from what I've seen his arm isn't strong enough to make those throws without perfect form[/B]. Imo he has to throw off platform from a muddy pocket or off balance etc. He doesn't have the arm strength in those situations to drive the ball with velocity and that causes him to spray passes off target (high,low, short, behind etc).
[/quote]

Excellent observation. And unfortunately he doesn't always keep his feet in the proper position even when not under pressure.

If you watch Rodgers and Brady they're extremely nifty with their feet, they slide around and escape pressure without really ever getting off balance. And even when they do a flick of the wrist is all they seem to need.

Of course, how hard is it to find a talent like that? We have one in Griffin. Too bad his brain doesn't work the same way.

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Can we draft the kid Rosen from UCLA? He's only a freshman!!!!

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[quote=Schneed10;1126345]Excellent observation. And unfortunately he doesn't always keep his feet in the proper position even when not under pressure....

...Of course, how hard is it to find a talent like that? [B]We have one in Griffin.[/B] Too bad his brain doesn't work the same way.[/quote]Correction. We [I][U][B]had[/B][/U][/I] one; barring only the slimmest (although increasing with every poor performance from this HC/QB) will Griffin play for the Redskins again and if he does he still [I][B]might[/B][/I] be playing for a HC that doesn't want him.

Damn you for reminding me of the Griffin off balance flick of the wrist TDs.

Nothing speaks to the more to the dysfunction of this organization then the fall of Griffin. After Mike Shanny quit on the team/got fired they we're given a blank slate. But somehow they managed to find the one HC least capable/prepared/interested in developing what was then our greatest asset. Instead they found a HC that quit on him after 5 games; earlier according to the reports.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1126322]The fact that Cousins looked off of Ryan Grant being covered by Revis, looked up field, and then made the severely mentally challenged decision to come back to Grant when he was still covered by Revis showed to me how much of a effen bum that Kirk Cousins is....[/quote]

The Jets were playing man coverage almost the entire game. Come 3rd quarter on that play, Revis initially showed man by following the crossing receiver but then he let the receiver go and peeled back to short zone coverage where grant was.

Kirk was thinking man coverage when he came back to grant. He was not expecting Revis to be sitting on the route like he was.

revis made a nice play.

Jets D coord made a nice "change up the look" call in the 3rd quarter that Kirk will struggle with bc he depends on his pre-snap reads of coverage too much. when a D coord shows one look pre-snap but then does something different = kirk doesnt do well. kirk needs to see the field a lot better post snap.

The over the top bashing of Kirk is mind numbing right now.

The revis int was the worst int you have ever seen?
bc Kirk got picked off by revis, he is an effing bum?

do you know who is an effing bum? robert fucking griffin. the dude whose hubris so fucking big he cant accept the fact that he needs to be coachable from the ground up.

the fucking bum that we sunk a ton of resources in who spends more time in the gym thinking he needs to be running sprints instead of studying film in a dark room for 23 hours a day for the next 2 years.

kirk is the best of what we got right now. hes not ideal but at least he can run an offense. at least he can read and get rid of the ball so we arent sacked 8 times a game. at least he has shown he can drive down the field with the game on the line. at least we can call plays that call for the QB to read both sides of the field and work through progressions instead of running plays where there is only 1 route for RG3 to read.

kirk needs a run game and his top 2 weapons back and then .... maybe we go .500.

what the fuck did you all cousins haters expect?

for him to carry this body bag of a team with no run game to the SB?

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a turd in the street >>>>>>>>>>>>>Kirk cousins a starting QB in the NFL

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[quote=Chico23231;1126352]a turd in the street >>>>>>>>>>>>>Kirk cousins a starting QB in the NFL[/quote]

dude a turd doesnt even have hands to throw a football. IT DOESNT HAVE HANDS CHICO!

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[quote=30gut;1126347]Correction. We [I][U][B]had[/B][/U][/I] one; barring only the slimmest (although increasing with every poor performance from this HC/QB) will Griffin play for the Redskins again and if he does he still [I][B]might[/B][/I] be playing for a HC that doesn't want him.

Damn you for reminding me of the Griffin off balance flick of the wrist TDs.

Nothing speaks to the more to the dysfunction of this organization then the fall of Griffin. After Mike Shanny quit on the team/got fired they we're given a blank slate. But somehow they managed to find the one HC least capable/prepared/interested in developing what was then our greatest asset. Instead they found a HC that quit on him after 5 games; earlier according to the reports.[/quote]

I don't want to turn this into a Griffin thread but I think his problems are just as much his own doing, or his own shortcomings, as it is the organization. Maybe even more so.

He's just not that quick witted. Ever take the DISC personality assessment? Griffin is an "I", a salesman, promotional, focused on how he's viewed. He's not analytical, and he's not decisive. He's fast as hell, and he can hit a target once it's open, that doesn't take a quick and decisive analytical mind and that's why he succeeded in college. It's also why he succeeded in year 1 under a college style offense designed by the Shanahans. But he expressed interest in moving on from a running style, but he doesn't have the wits. The surgical QBs - Brees, Manning, Brady, Rodgers, they are Ds/Cs. They are analytical, decisive, commanding, and attentive to detail.

Surgeons are Ds/Cs. Army commanders are Ds/Cs. Griffin is an I - he's a politician, a salesman, a public relations executive in an athlete's body.

He just doesn't have the right stuff. The only offense he'll succeed in is one that emphasizes his athleticism and keeps things simple enough that he doesn't have to bog down in details.

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[quote=Chico23231;1126352]a turd in the street >>>>>>>>>>>>>Kirk cousins a starting QB in the NFL[/quote]

Hey just try not to get ran over by a car Chico. .

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Meanwhile Cousins is a D/C personality but lacking consistent accuracy.

T Minus how many days till the draft?

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[quote=over the mountain;1126350]The Jets were playing man coverage almost the entire game. Come 3rd quarter on that play, Revis initially showed man by following the crossing receiver but then he let the receiver go and peeled back to short zone coverage where grant was.

Kirk was thinking man coverage when he came back to grant. He was not expecting Revis to be sitting on the route like he was.

revis made a nice play.

Jets D coord made a nice "change up the look" call in the 3rd quarter that Kirk will struggle with bc he depends on his pre-snap reads of coverage too much. when a D coord shows one look pre-snap but then does something different = kirk doesnt do well. kirk needs to see the field a lot better post snap.

The over the top bashing of Kirk is mind numbing right now.

The revis int was the worst int you have ever seen?
bc Kirk got picked off by revis, he is an effing bum?

do you know who is an effing bum? robert fucking griffin. the dude whose hubris so fucking big he cant accept the fact that he needs to be coachable from the ground up.

the fucking bum that we sunk a ton of resources in who spends more time in the gym thinking he needs to be running sprints instead of studying film in a dark room for 23 hours a day for the next 2 years.

kirk is the best of what we got right now. hes not ideal but at least he can run an offense. at least he can read and get rid of the ball so we arent sacked 8 times a game. at least he has shown he can drive down the field with the game on the line. at least we can call plays that call for the QB to read both sides of the field and work through progressions instead of running plays where there is only 1 route for RG3 to read.

kirk needs a run game and his top 2 weapons back and then .... maybe we go .500.

what the fuck did you all cousins haters expect?

for him to carry this body bag of a team with no run game to the SB?[/quote]

If Kirk's pass wasn't intercepted, it would have been a short by a yard or two. It was a horrible pass that could have been picked off by any decent CB.

I'm sick of people defending Cousins; and people need to stop thinking that any criticism on Cousins is an automatic praise for Griffin.

At this point, Kirk isn't even good enough to be a game manager, neither is Griffin by the way. In an earlier thread, I had mentioned that I think the team will be getting a bridge QB in the offseason. I think this is going to be the case. McC will likely get his QB of the future either next draft or the one after that. And I'll be glad when we do a clean sweep of this batch of QBs.

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[quote=Schneed10;1126355]I don't want to turn this into a Griffin thread but I think his problems are just as much his own doing, or his own shortcomings, as it is the organization. Maybe even more so....[/quote]Everyone is entitled to their opinion, theory or speculation. (even though expressing a differing opinion almost causes more drama then its worth in trying to have a discussion). I don't get hung up on non-football stuff because I don't think it even remotely reliable. Every once in awhile I listen to the local media/radio and I remember how little football they actually know and discuss. So I understand a lot of the frustration, dislike that many fans have towards Griffin. But, I guarantee he was the same guy in 2012 and the same guy at Baylor. My focus in on the field.

However; I agree that clearly Griffin played a key role in his circumstances here. But at the end of the day he's a player the onus falls on the organization to make it work. IF Griffin is a "difficult" personality to manage, which might be true, I'm certain he's not the first. And in my previous statement I was taking the grand view, the big picture or simplistic view....Washington drafted one of the best QB prospects I have every seen. The biggest question that surrounds any prospect was answered in year 1...can he play at a high level? Yes. The debacle of management that ensued imho is more on the organization then the player.

I don't believe the current result was inevitable. I think bad decisions were made along the way that have brought us here. Imho if we chose a different HC last year we wouldn't be here now.

But that's a different discussion for a different time.

Right now, J has to coach better to help his chosen QB and our team have more success and win this game.

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[quote=30gut;1126360]Everyone is entitled to their opinion, theory or speculation. (even though expressing a differing opinion almost causes more drama then its worth in trying to have a discussion).

However; I agree that clearly Griffin played a key role in his circumstances here. But at the end of the day he's a player the onus falls on the organization to make it work. I am taking the grand view, the big picture or simplistic view. Washington drafted one of the best QB prospects I have every seen. The biggest question that surrounds any prospect was answered in year 1...can he play at a high level? Yes. The debacle of management that ensued imho is more on the organization then the player.

I don't believe the current result was inevitable. I think bad decisions were made along the way that have brought us here. Imho if we chose a different HC last year we wouldn't be here now.

But that's a different discussion for a different time.

Right now, J has to coach better to help his chosen QB and our team have more success and win this game.



I don't get hung up on non-football stuff because I don't think it even remotely reliable.[/quote]

Fair enough, I think personality assessment is a big factor in determining fit for any job, but if you want to stick with football...

The organization definitely could have insisted that it stick with the 2012 Shanahan offense. But remember it was Griffin and his dad that expressed interest in moving away from running.

But clearly that was the only offense he was fit to run. So you either force it on him, or you try to coach him to dissect teams through the air. I think you're damned either way.

Whatever, it doesn't matter. Griffin sucks, Cousins is the better player for this team. Unfortunately he's not good enough to ever win a championship with. We ride with him for now, maybe change to McCoy, not sure I even care.

All I know is our franchise QB is not on this roster.

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Thank god some of you aren't in charge of the team. The knee jerk reaction around here is hilarious. You'd be firing coaches and changing Qb's every other week.

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[quote=Schneed10;1126361]Fair enough, I think personality assessment is a big factor in determining fit for any job, but if you want to stick with football...

The organization definitely could have insisted that it stick with the 2012 Shanahan offense. But remember it was Griffin and his dad that expressed interest in moving away from running.[/quote]You started off saying you would keep it football then immediately moved into non-football stuff. Its alright, I know the 2 are enmeshed for many.

We don't know what actually happened. What I can say with absolute certainty is that in 2013 less then a year after reconstructive surgery Griffin ran read-option as early as week 4 and continued to run the rest of the 2013 season. That's what I know, factually.

Now, whatever happened between Griffin and Mike Shanahan we'll never know. It is my belief that their issue with proper management didn't have to be the end of a regime.

[quote]Whatever, it doesn't matter. Griffin sucks, Cousins is the better player for this team. Unfortunately he's not good enough to ever win a championship with. We ride with him for now, maybe change to McCoy, not sure I even care.[/quote]The point being missed here is that coaching is a factor in player performance. Griffin was excellent as rookie. If he sucks now then it cannot be dismissed that coaching could be the cause.
Especially when you consider the QB propped up as the solution in place of Griffin isn't performing any better.
At some point there has to be production or accountability from the coaching.

I'm not on board with riding a losing process.

And, btw I thought Colt was a better option then Kirk to start.

[quote]All I know is our franchise QB is not on this roster.[/quote]Maybe not.

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With all the injuries lately and the running game faltering I'm kind of surprised we're so focused on Cousins.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1126362]Thank god some of you aren't in charge of the team. The knee jerk reaction around here is hilarious. You'd be firing coaches and changing Qb's every other week.[/QUOTE]
That happens for us when we win too(which I know is rare) but I admit my knee jerk was the whole team sucks which it doesn't we do have some good players and young guys stepping up. Kirk though does suck and it's shown throughout this season, he's never consistent and I won't believe in the guy until he goes a few games with having good performance in a row, not once every 3 or 4 weeks

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[quote=Mattyk;1126364]With all the injuries lately and the running game faltering I'm kind of surprised we're so focused on Cousins.[/quote]Well this is the Who is Kirk thread ;).....I expressed some of my issues with the coaching and run game earlier though.

I believe bad coaching is having a negative impact across board. Its effecting Kirk also. Griffin and Kirk, depending on which part of the fanbase you ask, now suck. Alfred Morris who was previously 1,000 rusher/pro-bowler behind worse OLs (and without DeSean) has now regressed. Garcon went from leading the league in receptions with decent YPC to ~60-70 with a low YPC. We have the arguably the best OL we've had for awhile and arguably the best backfield but we can't run.

At some point, the coaching has to produce or be held accountable. Either that or I'm forced to believe that everyone we have sucks? Except for Jordan Reed and DeSean?

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[quote=30gut;1126363]You started off saying you would keep it football then immediately moved into non-football stuff. Its alright, I know the 2 are enmeshed for many.

We don't know what actually happened. What I can say with absolute certainty is that in 2013 less then a year after reconstructive surgery Griffin ran read-option as early as week 4 and continued to run the rest of the 2013 season. That's what I know, factually.[/quote]

But that's not enough facts to work with, nobody could make a meaningful judgment with that little information. Pointless conversation if we don't fill in the gaps with what the sources have told us.

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[quote=30gut;1126369]Well this is the Who is Kirk thread ;).....I expressed some of my issues with the coaching and run game earlier though.

I believe bad coaching is having a negative impact across board. Its effecting Kirk also. Griffin and Kirk, depending on which part of the fanbase you ask, now suck. Alfred Morris who was previously 1,000 rusher/pro-bowler behind worse OLs (and without DeSean) has now regressed. Garcon went from leading the league in receptions with decent YPC to ~60-70 with a low YPC. We have the arguably the best OL we've had for awhile and arguably the best backfield but we can't run.

At some point, the coaching has to produce or be held accountable. Either that or I'm forced to believe that everyone we have sucks? Except for Jordan Reed and DeSean?[/quote]

I know we were facing the Jets D, but in last week's game, I swear I saw their D-line basically bulldozing our O-line during runs.

The running game is extremely concerning and I really think everyone (RBs/O-Line) is faltering and the coaching staff need to do something about it.

I also don't think it is just a Morris issue, since Matt Jones hasn't done much either.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1126319]Eli threw pretty much the same interception the other night against the Eagles. All QBs make mistakes, and most QBs make A LOT of mistakes early in their careers.

Look, he's been innacurate, inconsistent and downright bad at times. However, he has also been accurate and really good at times. Some of the INTs have been bad decisions, some of the INTs have been bad bounces, some of the INTs have been great defensive plays, some of the INTs have been the result of bad routes.

Who is Kirk Cousins? Ask me next year....[/quote]

This is really a great answer and I would like to adopt this answer as my own!

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1126319]Eli threw pretty much the same interception the other night against the Eagles. All QBs make mistakes, and most QBs make A LOT of mistakes early in their careers.

Look, he's been innacurate, inconsistent and downright bad at times. However, he has also been accurate and really good at times. Some of the INTs have been bad decisions, some of the INTs have been bad bounces, some of the INTs have been great defensive plays, some of the INTs have been the result of bad routes.

[B]Who is Kirk Cousins? Ask me next year....[/B][/quote]

He'll probably be playing for another team, like Griffin.

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No one thought Drew Brees was going to become Drew Brees. He had 29 TDs and 31 INTs after 3 full seasons. The Chargers drafted Rivers to replace him, but Brees beat him out in camp and threw 27TDs to only 7INTs. Then he hurt his shoulder and only 2 teams went after him, neither of which was the Skins.

Not saying Cousins is the next Drew Brees, but I don't think he's a finished product just yet. The list of guys who eventually "got it" is long and distinguished. Like my Johnson.

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Who is Kirk Cousins right now?

A much better alternative to a Quarterback carousel the rest of the season.

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[quote=44Deezel;1126376]Who is Kirk Cousins right now?

A much better alternative to a Quarterback carousel the rest of the season.[/quote]

Unless he implodes like NY last year, I really don't want a change. The solid, stable organizations around the league don't have knee jerk reactions to a up and down young QB who's still learning on the job. The shuffling around didn't do any good in 2014. Hope the Redskins stay the course on this and ride it out.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1126377]Unless he implodes like NY last year, I really don't want a change. The solid, stable organizations around the league don't have knee jerk reactions to a up and down young QB who's still learning on the job. The shuffling around didn't do any good in 2014. Hope the Redskins stay the course on this and ride it out.[/quote]

Reality is they could do both. Seahawks drafted Wilson in the 3rd round after paying Matt Flynn.

Cousins should not be prohibitively expensive, they can sign him and still draft a guy to spread their eggs across multiple baskets.

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[quote=Bucket;1126324]I don't agree with that Matt. I'm not sold Kirk is a starter, but his arm isn't limited. I've seen him make all the throws.[/quote]

I saw a written summary of Kirk's picks. I thought he had thrown 2 picks on
out routes but the summary (can't remember where I read it) described 3 of the 8 pics on out routes. Don't know if it is an arm strength issue but
too many times he throws those inside where they are ripe to turn into a pick six. Until the issue is corrected he needs to stop throwing them unless the receiver is wide open. A well thrown out is either caught by the receiver or uncatchable. Not the case for those thrown by Kirk.

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[quote=Schneed10;1126370]But that's not enough facts to work with, nobody could make a meaningful judgment with that little information. Pointless conversation if we don't fill in the gaps with what the sources have told us.[/quote]I'm not making a judgement about anything other then what I see on the field though.

Personally, I separate who the athletes are on the field from what they do on the field. So to a large extent I couldn't care less what a player does off the field. Whether they are a saint or a jerk, makes no difference to me. From Russell Wilson to Aaron Rodgers to Ben Rothlisberger they're will always be talk, rumor and sources. I think I have decent handle on how the whole media/sourced information business works and there isn't enough truth nor accountability for me. So, I'm not going to put much credence into media "sources" filling in the gaps, especially when for me the gaps don't even matter when I can just watch the games. They can say Griffin said he wouldn't run read option but when I actually see Griffin out there running read-option with a leg brace on...it kinda renders their storylines off base/wrong to me.

So to each their own. For me, what I see on the field is enough. I don't give much credence to the rumor mill.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1126371]I know we were facing the Jets D, but in last week's game, I swear I saw their D-line basically bulldozing our O-line during runs.

The running game is extremely concerning and I really think everyone (RBs/O-Line) is faltering and the coaching staff need to do something about it.

I also don't think it is just a Morris issue, since Matt Jones hasn't done much either.[/quote]Agreed.

D coordinators aren't stupid. They watch the game film. They observed Jay's 1st down--base formation--base personnel run tendency. So? They fill the box with 8 and their ILBs have the green light to "fire their gun" when they read run.

But, aggressive 8-man boxes shouldn't necessarily doom the run game. Good run games face that every week.
But when you combine 1st down predictability with using inadequate or inconsistent blockers i.e. Carrier/Reed to block the POA it gets harder.
I still don't understand why they don't use more I-form with Daryl Young as the POA blocker rather then TEs?
Anyhow, couple that with rotating RBs.
Add not sticking to the run outside of 1st down.
Add lack of variety/misdirection/ not finding the right mix in the run game i.e. Alf likes tosses and Alf needs carries to get rhythm.
Add telegraphing the 'type' of run based on the runner i.e. Alf inside runs, Matt Jones edge runs, CT shotgun runs/draws.
You start to get the picture of why the running game is struggling.

When we can run against the Rams you would think we can run against anybody. Who knew..*shrugs*

We should be able to run against the Bucs though.

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And of course, behind every discussion about benching Cousins looms an even larger, more drama filled discussion...



When sitting on the bench, what is Kirk's favorite kind of pie?

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Who is Karim Garcia?

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Where is Carmen Sandiego?

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Where's Waldo?