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[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Kyshoen-Jarrett-A-Surprise-Early-In-2015-Season-/2115f46e-665c-4b13-bc20-1fad29edb97c?sf14371546=1]Kyshoen Jarrett 'A Surprise' Early In 2015 Season[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1126278][url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Kyshoen-Jarrett-A-Surprise-Early-In-2015-Season-/2115f46e-665c-4b13-bc20-1fad29edb97c?sf14371546=1]Kyshoen Jarrett 'A Surprise' Early In 2015 Season[/url][/quote]

Loving this kid

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1126278][url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Kyshoen-Jarrett-A-Surprise-Early-In-2015-Season-/2115f46e-665c-4b13-bc20-1fad29edb97c?sf14371546=1]Kyshoen Jarrett 'A Surprise' Early In 2015 Season[/url][/quote]

i knew he was gonna ball hard...i had no clue he would be starting. looking good in the slot. really like the options of Safety and slot corner

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Joe Barry on Jarrett: “He's going to make rookie mistakes, but he just loves football,” Barry said. “He's into it. He just one of those mature rookies that really works at it. It was exciting to see."

Kudos to Kyshoen. One other point: What are some of the qualities Scot McCloughan looks for in the players he drafts? Loves football, works hard, mature beyond his years. Kyshoen is another winner brought to us compliments of our very capable GM.

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[quote=Chico23231;1126281]i knew he was gonna ball hard...i had no clue he would be starting. looking good in the slot. really like the options of Safety and slot corner[/quote]

I want to see Breeland, Culliver and Jarrett as the starters, Hall & Blackmon as the backups to them.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1126252]You are a good poster but you spread gossip like a teen girl. I can't remember one time that your rumors were morefact than fiction. (though my memory is not great)

DS -
Didn't fire Zorn mid season. Didn't fire Spurrier mid season.
Didn't fire Shanahan mid season.

Not gonna fire Gruden mid-season. Though he could make the effective decision in his mind that Gruden is gone if TB blows us out.

Sent from my S6 Edge[/quote]

I'm mostly to blame for believing the rumors as fact. Guess there's no way for me to know for sure at the time. The getting fired mid-season thing, in my mind, happened once, so i felt it was fair to assume that Snyder, having doing it once, could conceivable do it again if he grew desperate and felt his back was to the wall...

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No way Gruden gets fired during the year and I dont think he gets fired after the year unless the team just totally quits on him. I think SM gets him a qb than they go from there. Getting harder to believe cousins is the guy.
We absolutely need to beat tampa n get healthy over the bye. Hopefully the rest of the division goes backwards during that time. Would be nice to be rite in the thick of it during the midway point.

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[quote=punch it in;1126302]No way Gruden gets fired during the year and I dont think he gets fired after the year unless the team just totally quits on him. I think SM gets him a qb than they go from there. Getting harder to believe cousins is the guy.
We absolutely need to beat tampa n get healthy over the bye. Hopefully the rest of the division goes backwards during that time. Would be nice to be rite in the thick of it during the midway point.[/quote]

Did anyone really think Cousins was THE guy? I thought he was just a bandaid over a gaping wound.

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Winning cures everything.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1126303]Did anyone really think Cousins was THE guy? I thought he was just a bandaid over a gaping wound.[/quote]

Well, he's no Pineapple Jesus.....

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Cousins could be the guy until we find the guy…if you know what I mean! It should not take a QB like Brady or Rogers to be competitive in the NFC east..With solid play around him A mid level type QB could produce. Case in point Andy Dalton has been under fire for a long time,why all of a sudden does he look great? Joe Flaco has been looked upon as a very good QB and look what has happened to his team this year..same for Russell Wilson..there is only a handful like 3 to 4 QB's in the league that can carry the team on there back,most likely we won't be getting that type of QB any time soon.IF QB play was the end all to a teams success what the heck has happened to the Seahawks,Saints and to a certain extent The Giants,The Ravens..these are Qb's that any Redskin fan would love to have yet there teams are struggling. We need to keep building and most important try and keep our solid players healthy ..If we could heal up i don't see why we could not win 6 more games this year..8-8 would be a major improvement.

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[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redskinsblog/report-good-news-reed-williams-injury-front-pre-tampa?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo]Report: Good news for Reed, Williams on injury front pre-Tampa | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

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All I know is this is a winnable game. Jameis Winston is prone to rookie mistakes. If Kerrigan, Murphy, and Smith can each get to Winston or rush him into making rookie errors, the better the corners can stay with their WRs. I really don't like saying if.

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The gameplan and playcalling remains predictable. In broad strokes without getting too far into the weeds; Jay's offense lacks disguise. By and large on first down if its a run he's going to use a formation that indicates run. I-Form or Single back usually with base personnel or 2/3 TEs. IF Jay drop back passes on 1st down its usually from a formation that he doesn't use to run. Shotgun 1 back or under center 3 wide or empty (and the pass is usually a screen). You know why defense seem to be all over the WR screen to Crowder on 1st down? Because its one of the only passes we run from that shotgun formation on 1st down.
Imho If they want to be a better run team they need to run the ball from some of the same formations, personnel and down and distance that they pass from.

TLDR: Jay's offense 1st down= run from base formations/base personnel.
IF Jay's offense comes out in a pass set on 1st down its going to be a pass.
Defenses have a good read on what's coming based on formations.

D coordinators aren't stupid. They watch the game film. They observed Jay's 1st down--base formation--base personnel run tendency. So? They fill the box with 8 and their ILBs have the green light to "fire their gun" when they read run.

But, aggressive 8-man boxes shouldn't necessarily doom the run game. Good run games face that every week.
But when you combine 1st down predictability with using inadequate or inconsistent blockers i.e. Carrier/Reed to block the POA it gets harder.
I still don't understand why they don't use more I-form with Daryl Young as the POA blocker rather then TEs?
Anyhow, couple that with rotating RBs.
Add not sticking to the run outside of 1st down.
Add lack of variety/not finding the right mix in the run game i.e. Alf likes tosses and Alf needs carries to get rhythm.
Add telegraphing the 'type' of run based on the runner i.e. Alf inside runs, Matt Jones edge runs, CT shotgun runs/draws.

Forget everything I wrote above, because I believe we [U][I][B]CAN[/B][/I][/U] be better. So assuming we play up to our potential....

20-16 we beat the Bucs

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[quote=30gut;1126384]The gameplan and playcalling remains predictable. In broad strokes without getting too far into the weeds; Jay's offense lacks disguise. By and large on first down if its a run he's going to use a formation that indicates run. I-Form or Single back usually with base personnel or 2/3 TEs. IF Jay drop back passes on 1st down its usually from a formation that he doesn't use to run. Shotgun 1 back or under center 3 wide or empty (and the pass is usually a screen). You know why defense seem to be all over the WR screen to Crowder on 1st down? Because its one of the only passes we run from that shotgun formation on 1st down.
Imho If they want to be a better run team they need to run the ball from some of the same formations, personnel and down and distance that they pass from.

TLDR: Jay's offense 1st down= run from base formations/base personnel.
IF Jay's offense comes out in a pass set on 1st down its going to be a pass.
Defenses have a good read on what's coming based on formations.

D coordinators aren't stupid. They watch the game film. They observed Jay's 1st down--base formation--base personnel run tendency. So? They fill the box with 8 and their ILBs have the green light to "fire their gun" when they read run.

But, aggressive 8-man boxes shouldn't necessarily doom the run game. Good run games face that every week.
But when you combine 1st down predictability with using inadequate or inconsistent blockers i.e. Carrier/Reed to block the POA it gets harder.
I still don't understand why they don't use more I-form with Daryl Young as the POA blocker rather then TEs?
Anyhow, couple that with rotating RBs.
Add not sticking to the run outside of 1st down.
Add lack of variety/not finding the right mix in the run game i.e. Alf likes tosses and Alf needs carries to get rhythm.
Add telegraphing the 'type' of run based on the runner i.e. Alf inside runs, Matt Jones edge runs, CT shotgun runs/draws.

Forget everything I wrote above, because I believe we [U][I][B]CAN[/B][/I][/U] be better. So assuming we play up to our potential....

20-16 we beat the Bucs[/quote]
No offense but do you literally have anything else going in your life? I don't even read your wall of text post. You seem so much energy into this with little return.

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[quote=mredskins;1126393]No offense but do you literally have anything else going in your life? I don't even read your wall of text post. You seem so much energy into this with little return.[/quote]Don't fret over that post; I l know many, like yourself, aren't used to posts that are actually about football Xs and Os you know? Might be over your head maybe? Who knows...

cheers all the same

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[quote=30gut;1126407]Don't fret over that post; I l know many, like yourself, aren't used to posts that are actually about football Xs and Os you know? Might be over your head maybe? Who knows...

cheers all the same[/quote]

Keep doing what your doing.

Amazing we are playing another team coming off extended rest, but I think we should and will win. We need to be better at linebacker tackling and stoping the run...and I think we need to get a better push up front opening holes for Alfmo. We are playing a pretty below avg secondary but can we take advantage? Up to Kirk, Jay and the receivers.

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I'm going to the game for the first time in years. So in the spirit of not blowing it, I say we lose 56-3. Just a bloodbath. Everyone gets canned afterwards. Even McCloughan.

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Bucs 13-27 Skins

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[QUOTE=mooby;1126419]I'm going to the game for the first time in years. So in the spirit of not blowing it, I say we lose 56-3. Just a bloodbath. Everyone gets canned afterwards. Even McCloughan.[/QUOTE]

lol

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[quote=mooby;1126419]I'm going to the game for the first time in years. So in the spirit of not blowing it, I say we lose 56-3. Just a bloodbath. Everyone gets canned afterwards. Even McCloughan.[/quote]

Perfect post.

Enjoy brah

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[quote=mooby;1126419]I'm going to the game for the first time in years. So in the spirit of not blowing it, I say we lose 56-3. Just a bloodbath. Everyone gets canned afterwards. Even McCloughan.[/quote]

I have a feeling this is a sarcastic post, but I feel the same way.

Tampa Bay comes to town, totally destroys us in an embarrassing spectacle that is so bad that most of the hometown fans have cleared out by half-time, as the score is already 38-3 - Cousins does not have a good game and throws four INT's in the first half. McCoy replaces Cousins, but throws a pick in the 3rd before being injured, to get replaced by RG3!!! RG3 comes in and throws 3 picks of his own, but the skins have no one else to turn to.

Final Score: Tampa Bay 63, Washington 3. Jameis Winston finishes the day 47/59, for 556 yards, breaking the NFL record set by Norm Van Broccoli in 1951.

Aftermath: Jay Gruden, and SM are both fired, Bill Callahan takes over as head coach, and the Skins go on a hell of a run, winning their last 9 games in a row to win the division at 11-5. Cousins sets the single season INT record at 43, BUT also throws for 35 TD's....

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[quote=30gut;1126407]Don't fret over that post; I l know many, like yourself, aren't used to posts that are actually about football Xs and Os you know? Might be over your head maybe? Who knows...

cheers all the same[/quote]

You cannot possibly as overbearing as you sound. Wait, wait, actually you are...

What a dick. Never, ever, in 8 years here blocked anyone. Getting close, though...

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[quote=Chico23231;1126210]Per rotoworld....kinda like i was saying the other day...Garcon, DJax, Roberts, even Grant...WR corp gonna be gone next year.[/quote]Garcon has been a great player for us. It's a shame his talent and effort has been wasted on this crappy team.

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[quote=30gut;1126384]The gameplan and playcalling remains predictable. In broad strokes without getting too far into the weeds; Jay's offense lacks disguise. By and large on first down if its a run he's going to use a formation that indicates run. I-Form or Single back usually with base personnel or 2/3 TEs. IF Jay drop back passes on 1st down its usually from a formation that he doesn't use to run. Shotgun 1 back or under center 3 wide or empty (and the pass is usually a screen). You know why defense seem to be all over the WR screen to Crowder on 1st down? Because its one of the only passes we run from that shotgun formation on 1st down.
Imho If they want to be a better run team they need to run the ball from some of the same formations, personnel and down and distance that they pass from.

TLDR: Jay's offense 1st down= run from base formations/base personnel.
IF Jay's offense comes out in a pass set on 1st down its going to be a pass.
Defenses have a good read on what's coming based on formations.

D coordinators aren't stupid. They watch the game film. They observed Jay's 1st down--base formation--base personnel run tendency. So? They fill the box with 8 and their ILBs have the green light to "fire their gun" when they read run.

But, aggressive 8-man boxes shouldn't necessarily doom the run game. Good run games face that every week.
But when you combine 1st down predictability with using inadequate or inconsistent blockers i.e. Carrier/Reed to block the POA it gets harder.
I still don't understand why they don't use more I-form with Daryl Young as the POA blocker rather then TEs?
Anyhow, couple that with rotating RBs.
Add not sticking to the run outside of 1st down.
Add lack of variety/not finding the right mix in the run game i.e. Alf likes tosses and Alf needs carries to get rhythm.
Add telegraphing the 'type' of run based on the runner i.e. Alf inside runs, Matt Jones edge runs, CT shotgun runs/draws.

Forget everything I wrote above, because I believe we [U][I][B]CAN[/B][/I][/U] be better. So assuming we play up to our potential....

20-16 we beat the Bucs[/quote]Thank you for your posts here, 30gut. Please don't let the personal, non-football related attacks here drive you out, it would be our loss.

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If we lose all those Wrs who do we replace them with?? U can't just let guys go

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[quote=HailGreen28;1126431]Thank you for your posts here, 30gut. Please don't let the personal, non-football related attacks here drive you out, it would be our loss.[/quote]

The problem is not his posts. In fact, I like the most recent one.

It's his uncalled for insults to anyone who who might have a different opinion about his posts that are the problem. See his last response to mredskins and you'll know what I'm talking about...

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1126433]If we lose all those Wrs who do we replace them with?? U can't just let guys go[/quote]

Well you still have Ross and Crowder, who I'm assuming they're keeping.

You really only need a #1 and a #2. Crowder is the slot guy, Ross can rotate in... Then you get a couple depth guys.. It's a reach but not totally impossible.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1126433]If we lose all those Wrs who do we replace them with?? U can't just let guys go[/quote]

I think you look at the price tag, game tape, and our win-loss record and it makes it easy call. We can get younger, cheaper, and better through the draft and free agency with McC making those personnel decisions.

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I'm at drill this weekend I'll record the game httr hope they win

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[quote=Chico23231;1126441]I think you look at the price tag, game tape, and our win-loss record and it makes it easy call. We can get younger, cheaper, and better through the draft and free agency with McC making those personnel decisions.[/quote]

Who can we draft that would come in and play better than garcon ? In the 3rd or 4th round? Cuz on a team like this i know your not suggesting we spend a 1 or 2 maybe not even a 3 on a wr .....................

I'd be interested in the FA list and price tags for them this offseason, that could be interesting.

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Skins will probably win a close game making the same mistakes.

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[quote=Meks;1126455]Who can we draft that would come in and play better than garcon ? In the 3rd or 4th round? Cuz on a team like this i know your not suggesting we spend a 1 or 2 maybe not even a 3 on a wr .....................

I'd be interested in the FA list and price tags for them this offseason, that could be interesting.[/quote]

Crowder is playing just a little below Garcon stat wise, as a slot receiver.

Garcon: 32 receptions, 294 yards, 3 TD
Crowder: 27 receptions, 244 yards, 0 TDs

And Crowder was a 4th round pick.


So I'd say it's possible. Especially with Scotty doing the scouting, a diamond in the rough is not out of the realm of possibility.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1126440]Well you still have Ross and Crowder, who I'm assuming they're keeping.

You really only need a #1 and a #2. Crowder is the slot guy, Ross can rotate in... Then you get a couple depth guys.. It's a reach but not totally impossible.[/quote]

Even though a lot seem to hate Ryan Grant, I actually like him and expect him to develop into a good servicable WR

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1126471]Even though a lot seem to hate Ryan Grant, I actually like him and expect him to develop into a good servicable WR[/quote]

I don't hate the guy. He's an average possession type of WR. Reminds me of Gaffney. I could see him coming back next year as well.

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1126438]The problem is not his posts. In fact, I like the most recent one.

It's his uncalled for insults to anyone who who might have a different opinion about his posts that are the problem. See his last response to mredskins and you'll know what I'm talking about...[/quote]

I've blocked both HailGreene and 30Gut, site is so much better now that I don't have to read their non-sense.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1126471]Even though a lot seem to hate Ryan Grant, I actually like him and expect him to develop into a good servicable WR[/QUOTE]


Too early to give up on him, he's still developing. I like him too.

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[quote=Mattyk;1126914]Too early to give up on him, he's still developing. I like him too.[/quote]

Grant was a great 6th round steal. I was disappointed that he didn't play more last year...