If they ever really HAD to change the name we could just be the Skins. DC Skins.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1031697]We stopped one, because a) it was already several pages long b) it was taking a stupid/dangerous turn c) there was no new news.

Dan Snyder's letter is new news so it should have been started as a new thread, in my opinion, instead of bumping this one. But it's fine here. Better than in the Dallas Week thread.

But I don't know what you mean about shutting down and starting various name change threads.[/QUOTE]

I could have started a new thread i suppose. I felt like the letter sort of gave closure because it really put to rest any feelings i had of it being politically incorrect or hurtful. Starting a new thread seemed counter productive to putting it to bed i guess.

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[quote=Lotus;1031710]What about changing the name to the Dragons? A dragon would be a badass mascot. Also, the branding and merch could include some really cool logos. Also we could keep the b&g color scheme.

In folklore from around the world, dragons bring prosperity to places where they are reverenced. They also are ferocious when crossed. If we MUST change, it sounds like a great mascot to me.[/quote]

Burgundy & Gold can stay no matter what. Why would the colors ever have to change?

[QUOTE=Lotus;1031710]What about changing the name to the Dragons? A dragon would be a badass mascot. Also, the branding and merch could include some really cool logos. Also we could keep the b&g color scheme.

In folklore from around the world, dragons bring prosperity to places where they are reverenced. They also are ferocious when crossed. If we MUST change, it sounds like a great mascot to me.[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/11/sy7u6ezu.jpg[/IMG]
Plus Khaleesi from game of thrones likes dragons and she is smoking hot.

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[quote=Lotus;1031710]What about changing the name to the Dragons? A dragon would be a badass mascot. Also, the branding and merch could include some really cool logos. Also we could keep the b&g color scheme.

In folklore from around the world, dragons bring prosperity to places where they are reverenced. They also are ferocious when crossed. If we MUST change, it sounds like a great mascot to me.[/quote]

excuse me sir...but with all due respect internet stranger,you are a grown man. Why would you want a kiddies fictional mascot. Look, I wouldn't mind if they changed the name as long as it was still indian oriented and they kept the logo.

the problem I think of is they would make them get rid of any indian theme all together which I find offensive in itself.

I don't want Washington Redskins stuff to become collectors items I cant get a hold of because I don't have enough money because someone equates it with gay bashing or racism or whatever

[QUOTE=ram29jackson;1031755]excuse me sir...but with all due respect internet stranger,you are a grown man. Why would you want a kiddies fictional mascot. Look, I wouldn't mind if they changed the name as long as it was still indian oriented and they kept the logo.

the problem I think of is they would make them get rid of any indian theme all together which I find offensive in itself.

[B]I don't want Washington Redskins stuff to become collectors items I cant get a hold of because I don't have enough money because someone equates it with gay bashing or racism or whatever[/B][/QUOTE]

Is gay bashing stuff expensive?

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[quote=punch it in;1031757]Is gay bashing stuff expensive?[/quote]

:laughing- neeeevvveeerrr miiiiind

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Just change the name bc apparently 80 years later it is a BIG deal

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[quote=ram29jackson;1031755]excuse me sir...but with all due respect internet stranger,you are a grown man. Why would you want a kiddies fictional mascot. Look, I wouldn't mind if they changed the name as long as it was still indian oriented and they kept the logo.

the problem I think of is they would make them get rid of any indian theme all together which I find offensive in itself.

I don't want Washington Redskins stuff to become collectors items I cant get a hold of because I don't have enough money because someone equates it with gay bashing or racism or whatever[/quote]

Dragons are not "kiddie" things. They were the sacred emblem of the Chinese emperor and so are emblazoned on government buildings, temples, etc., all over China. They also have a long history of marking important adult things in Japan, Vietnam, etc. Turning to Europe, [I]Beowulf [/I]is hardly children's literature. Dragons were used on medieval maps such as the Lenox Globe. You need to learn about dragons.

Besides, many kids are NFL fans, so having a kid-friendly mascot is not a bad idea.

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[quote=12thMan;1031694]By the way, I LOVED Snyder's letter to the fans and felt that he finally struck the right sentiment.[/quote]


Have you guys read Sally Jenkins response to Dan's letter in the Washington Post? I can't stand her.
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/washington-redskins-team-name-another-letter-the-same-spirit/2013/10/10/15b731ca-31c6-11e3-89ae-16e186e117d8_story.html]Washington Redskins team name: Another letter, the same spirit - The Washington Post[/url]

It's like you can't agree to disagree anymore in this country. Some politically correct person has to have the last word.

Never change the name Mr. Snyder, if for no other reason than to continue to piss these kinds of people off!

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[quote=scowan;1031785]Have you guys read Sally Jenkins response to Dan's letter in the Washington Post? I can't stand her.
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/washington-redskins-team-name-another-letter-the-same-spirit/2013/10/10/15b731ca-31c6-11e3-89ae-16e186e117d8_story.html]Washington Redskins team name: Another letter, the same spirit - The Washington Post[/url]

It's like you can't agree to disagree anymore in this country. Some politically correct person has to have the last word.

Never change the name Mr. Snyder, if for no other reason than to continue to piss these kinds of people off![/quote]

When it comes time to rally against football and ban it as a sport. Sally will be there rallying against the sport that made her rich.

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[quote=ram29jackson;1031755]excuse me sir...but with all due respect internet stranger,you are a grown man. Why would you want a kiddies fictional mascot. Look, I wouldn't mind if they changed the name as long as it was still indian oriented and they kept the logo.

the problem I think of is they would make them get rid of any indian theme all together which I find offensive in itself.

I don't want Washington Redskins stuff to become collectors items I cant get a hold of because I don't have enough money because someone equates it with gay bashing or racism or whatever[/quote]

Dragons can't be any worse than the New Orleans Pelicans.

I wanna know what kind of glue the person who thought that team name was a good idea was sniffing.

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[quote=scowan;1031785]Have you guys read Sally Jenkins response to Dan's letter in the Washington Post? I can't stand her.
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/washington-redskins-team-name-another-letter-the-same-spirit/2013/10/10/15b731ca-31c6-11e3-89ae-16e186e117d8_story.html]Washington Redskins team name: Another letter, the same spirit - The Washington Post[/url]

It's like you can't agree to disagree anymore in this country. Some politically correct person has to have the last word.

Never change the name Mr. Snyder, if for no other reason than to continue to piss these kinds of people off![/quote]

Sally and Mike Wise should have a baby together, it would be the ultimate Redskins Hating Troll

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1031787]Dragons can't be any worse than the New Orleans Pelicans.

I wanna know what kind of glue the person who thought that team name was a good idea was sniffing.[/quote]

No joke. If the name changes, I fear that we will have some lame new name like the Pelicans. At least dragons are ferocious.

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Washington Shutdowns. We´d just need a better Backfield.

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[quote=Lotus;1031792]No joke. If the name changes, I fear that we will have some lame new name like the Pelicans. At least dragons are ferocious.[/quote]My guess is that it would be Warriors and the logo would have a military feel to it.
Ironically, I know people (my Dad for instance) who absolutely hate it when teams/athletes are equated to soldiers.

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[quote=Chico23231;1031788]Sally and Mike Wise should have a baby together, it would be the ultimate Redskins Hating Troll[/quote]

If they're both so against the name, how about they go work for another paper?

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;1031794]My guess is that it would be Warriors and the logo would have a military feel to it.
Ironically, I know people (my Dad for instance) who absolutely hate it when teams/athletes are equated to soldiers.[/quote]

I would hate that, too. Playing in the NFL and being in a foxhole in Afghanistan are not the same thing.

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[quote=Mattyk;1031796]If they're both so against the name, how about they go work for another paper?[/quote]

Those two just seem to hate the team. Whatever topic it is with the Skins, they never miss a chance to kill them. Id given Wise about 100 chances, but the Donovan interview was last straw. Sally just sux, never really liked her articles one way or the other.


Quick note on the letter and sports jouranlism, it was really great to see Danny cite Richmond's very own Skins reporter Paul Woody's article and research. Woody always been fair and takes the time to actually do research on sports issues. You would like to think bigger papers would have the better journalist, certainly not in this case. These pieces of sh*t Mike Wise and Jenkins combined dont have the writing talent Paul Woody possesses. I look at the crap today in the big papers, yahoo, bleacher report, etc and its really damn sad as it is pathetic.

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[quote=ram29jackson;1031755]excuse me sir...but with all due respect internet stranger,you are a grown man. Why would you want a kiddies fictional mascot. Look, [B]I wouldn't mind if they changed the name as long as it was still indian oriented [/B]and they kept the logo.

the problem I think of is they would make them get rid of any indian theme all together which I find offensive in itself.

I don't want Washington Redskins stuff to become collectors items I cant get a hold of because I don't have enough money because someone equates it with gay bashing or racism or whatever[/quote]

Hmmmm...you have a point. Perhaps we could change the name to
"Washington Indian alcoholism, poverty and violence on the Reservation's"? Something that has actual meaning and worthy of social concern and possible action?
No.........that shit doesn't count.....not trivial enough..Oh Well...wtf

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[quote=Hog1;1031805]Hmmmm...you have a point. Perhaps we could change the name to
"Washington Indian alcoholism, poverty and violence on the Reservation's"? Something that has actual meaning and worthy of social concern and possible action?
No.........that shit doesn't count.....not trivial enough..Oh Well...wtf[/quote]

lol Washington Casinos!

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1031787]Dragons can't be any worse than the New Orleans Pelicans.

I wanna know what kind of glue the person who thought that team name was a good idea was sniffing.[/QUOTE]

Lol. Worst name ever. Hated it from the get go.

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[url=http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/keep-the-washington-redskins]MoveOn Petitions - Keep the Washington Redskins Name[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1031788]Sally and Mike Wise should have a baby together, it would be the ultimate Redskins Hating Troll[/quote]
They could name it......Goat

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[quote=punch it in;1031849]Lol. Worst name ever. Hated it from the get go.[/quote]Beats "Utah Jazz", IMO.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1031867]Beats "Utah Jazz", IMO.[/quote]

I like that name. Sue me.

Edit: Clarifying. I like the name "Utah Jazz".

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[quote=ram29jackson;1017183]War Paint - Meaning of colors of War Paint, Body Paint or Face Painting
There were so many tribes of Native American Indians it is only possible to generalise the most common meanings of the colors and patterns of War Paint, Body Paint or Face Paint.
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Red Color Symbolizes war, blood, strength, energy, power and success in war paint but might also symbolise happiness and beauty in face paint

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Black was perceived as a "living" color and worn on the face to prepare for war. Very aggressive color. Black meant strength. It might also indicated that the wearer was a powerful warrior who had proved himself in battle. Black was also used to symbolize victory and might be applied before returning home to the camp

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White Color Symbolizes mourning. White was also the color of peace when it was used as face paint.

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Blue Color Symbolizes wisdom, confidence

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Yellow Color Symbolizes the color of death. Yellow also indicated that the wearer was heroic, had led a good life and was willing to fight to the death. It also symbolised intellect

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Green Color Symbolizes endurance. Green is associated with harmony and is a great healing power and believed to improve vision[/quote]

Wow I never knew the colors symbolized anything. Thanks for info. I wonder if the teams colors are based on these as well?

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Wise on CNN this morning to discuss the name. Anyone else find it hypocritical that he takes money to appear on a show called Redskins Showtime?

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My favorite player gets favoriter.

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This is posted to be purely funny on the issue of the name change.

A former Redskin shared this on his facebook page. No matter what side of the argument you are, you have to admit this is worth a chuckle:

[url]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151869703195139&set=a.10150909805445139.437398.67895825138&type=1&theater[/url]

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[quote=Leader In Sports;1031946]This is posted to be purely funny on the issue of the name change.

A former Redskin shared this on his facebook page. No matter what side of the argument you are, you have to admit this is worth a chuckle:

[url]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151869703195139&set=a.10150909805445139.437398.67895825138&type=1&theater[/url][/quote]Thought these were funnier, no matter which side of the argument you're on. You have to admit, these are hilarious!

[IMG]http://cdn.meme.li/i/agkrs.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.brucesallan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Political-Correctness.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=HailGreen28;1031950]Thought these were funnier, no matter which side of the argument you're on. You have to admit, these are hilarious!

[IMG]http://cdn.meme.li/i/agkrs.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.brucesallan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Political-Correctness.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

The first one is funny, the second one is just an eh.

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[quote=Leader In Sports;1031953]the second one is just an eh.[/quote]I understand, especially if you aren't a big Twilight Zone fan it's not as funny.

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[quote=44Deezel;1031931]Wise on CNN this morning to discuss the name. Anyone else find it hypocritical that he takes money to appear on a show called Redskins Showtime?[/quote]

Good thing no one watches CNN anymore.

[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1031867]Beats "Utah Jazz", IMO.[/QUOTE]

I like the name Jazz too. It doesnt have to be a viciously tough name for a basketball team but pelicans are just corny.

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[quote=mbedner3420;1032025]Good thing no one watches CNN anymore.[/quote]

Not at 8AM on a Sunday morning.

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Tafoya has not said Redskins yet.

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[quote=44Deezel;1032048]Not at 8AM on a Sunday morning.[/quote]

400,000+ viewers for Sundays is not that impressive

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The comments on yahoo just made my sour Monday a little sweeter, Bob better be careful he may get scalped .

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/bob-costas-during-halftime-nbc-sunday-night-football-022727321--nfl.html?vp=1]Y! SPORTS[/url]

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sadly enough the name will be changed IMO, eventually Dan will just get worn out by the negative pub