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[quote=los panda;892151]why add imo? if you're posting it, it should be your opinion. just saying...[/quote]

Some people here think that if you dont put IMO behind all of your posts, then you are force feeding your ideas down others throats as if what you said was fact. Its all about being politically correct nowadays, and if your view is considered incorrect or doesnt match up with theirs, then by golly you are just being downright rude, unless you add an IMO, IMO.

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logical

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Mike Shanahan's interviews are awesome.
I'm srurprised he didn't slip in a: 'for obvious reasons' in the interview he managed to sneak in a 'best chance to win' right there at the end.

But what does anyone expect him to say?
He's already proven he'll literally say anything yet tell nothing.

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[quote=GTripp0012;892202]Timing of injuries might matter more than who gets injured. The Giants had a ton of defensive injuries in the preseason, and their defense in the regular season was awful enough to have kept them out, but their defense in the playoffs was good enough to win it.

The Giants couldn't have won the super bowl (maybe not even made the playoffs) if all those preseason injuries happened during the season.[/quote]

How about the Pack last year????? Had the most on IR of any team.


"Great teams have great depth" John Wooden

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Considering the Super Bowl's final score wasn't exactly a display of offense, maybe Shanahan isn't too far off. But, like others have said, what is he supposed to say exactly?

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[quote=SmootSmack;892149]What the hell do you want him to say in public on a dumb little interview?[/quote]

I would expect Shanahan not to sound like Zorn. :D

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[quote=DynamiteRave;892269]I would expect Shanahan not to sound like Zorn. :D[/quote]

Ha that's excellent!!

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i would have way too much fun as a head coach giving those type of interviews

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[quote=mooby;892116]Shanahan says a lot of things, and I don't put much stock into half of them.[/quote]

Exactly, don't give anything Shanahan says between January and April any stock. This doesn't impact anything going forward. He's already acknowledged a need for a franchise QB, #1 WR and he called Helu a nice 'change of pace back' which could be an indication that he is looking at a feature back (Hillis perhaps?) as well.

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People need to worry more about what Shanny does and less about what he says. I don't give a damn what he tells reporters in an interview. The fact that they are trying to trade up for RG3 and looking at Peyton speaks volumes to what he really thinks. Any time Shanny gets cornered by a reporter between now and the draft they are going to get nonsense from him meant to divert attention from his true intentions.

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I don't see anything wrong with what he said makes sense to me.

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[quote=celts32;892310]People need to worry more about what Shanny does and less about what he says. I don't give a damn what he tells reporters in an interview. The fact that they are trying to trade up for RG3 and looking at Peyton speaks volumes to what he really thinks. Any time Shanny gets cornered by a reporter between now and the draft they are going to get nonsense from him meant to divert attention from his true intentions.[/quote]

Agreed 110%.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;892107][I]Mike Shanahan says Redskins had ‘playoff-caliber’ offense in 2011.[/I]

Does he know how many games we won?
Did he even notice our QB situation?
WTF?

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/mike-shanahan-says-redskins-had-playoff-caliber-offense-in-2011/2012/03/05/gIQAL2xhsR_blog.html]Mike Shanahan says Redskins had ‘playoff-caliber’ offense in 2011 - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post[/url][/quote]

Eh, they finished 4 games behind the super bowl champs, lost 2 games to missed field goals, started John Beck for 3 games, lost Cooley, Licktensteiger and Hankerson to injury and Davis and Williams to stupidity and had a QB who averaged 2 turnovers a game.

All that said, they did suck, but I can see how Shanny rationalizes it in his head. Also, you have to take everything he says with a grain of salt.

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:yeahright:Flush:

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Shanahan...loves to screw with the media, and the public. Listen to any of his pressers. It's obvious.
However, through all, there is never a shortage of people.....biting on his every word and scrutinizing same.
Take the hook out of your mouth.......

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I found this pretty interesting:

[quote=Mike Shanahan]I can't tell you how many times I/we've had a guy that we [wanted] get picked (snaps fingers) just before our pick[/quote]

I hope Shanahan was talking I/we in the global sense meaning over the course of his entire coaching career and not just his time in Washington.
Because that's the distinct feeling a got from last years draft.
It wasn't that they chose not to draft a QB but they were a pick late when it matter most more then once.

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The way we started the season, I really thought we would at least sneak into the playoffs. I never predicted a Division title, or Super bowl, but i thought we had turned the corner.

We had good play at QB. Rex really didnt' start averaging 2 turnovers a game until he lost a bunch of guys on offense and started trying to do to much. Up to that point we were playing good with the guys we had. Starting Beck eliminated our chances of playoffs, or a winning record. I think worst case scenario with Rex in there, we would have been 8 and 8, and still going to the playoffs, but more likely we would have finished much better...

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[quote=30gut;892409]I found this pretty interesting:



I hope Shanahan was talking I/we in the global sense meaning over the course of his entire coaching career and not just his time in Washington.
Because that's the distinct feeling a got from last years draft.
[B]It wasn't that they chose not to draft a QB but they were a pick late when it matter most more then once.[/B][/quote]

That's why it pays to reach sometimes. As Parcells said, better a round early than a pick late.

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One thing that's interesting about the 2011 Redskins is that -- following the Week 5 bye -- the defense was actually somewhat worse in terms of expected points than it was in 2010. The 2010 defense was essentially an average unit (like the 2009 defense) that happened to have one of the single worst nights in NFL history. And while 2011 appeared to be an improvement on that side of the ball, they ended up as a very solid unit for about four games, and then after the bye, they were pretty bad.

If you take out the three John Beck starts, the offense seems to weather the injuries just fine. It was never a great unit, but it finished the season a long stronger than the defense did.

I think you can reasonably project the Redskins offense as a slightly above average unit in 2012 given the expected talent influx (though probably short of the playoff caliber unit the Shanahan's claim it to already be). But you can't do the same for the defense. Unless Jarvis Jenkins is the next coming of Richard Seymour, the defense could completely collapse unless Orakpo and Kerrigan both play 16 game seasons again, and keep the defenses head above water.

Things do not look good on that side of the ball, particularly if Landry walks.

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[quote=los panda;892179]if it were not for all the fumbles lost, the interceptions thrown, and the holding penalties, we would have been in the playoffs![/quote]

a interception or fumble return for a score every few centuries would have helped also

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I'm going to just post this not to start a debate/fight/whatever but just because I think its a very interesting read...


[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1089725-why-african-american-qbs-are-systemically-trained-to-abandon-mechanics]Why African-American QBs Are Systemically Trained to Abandon Mechanics | Bleacher Report[/url]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;892453]I'm going to just post this not to start a debate/fight/whatever but just because I think its a very interesting read...


[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1089725-why-african-american-qbs-are-systemically-trained-to-abandon-mechanics]Why African-American QBs Are Systemically Trained to Abandon Mechanics | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]Really good article. Well-written and doesn't dance around the authors point, which is controversial.

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he might have been right if, as the season went on we didnt score less points. hell i cant even remember how many times we broke 30 pts.

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[quote=Hog1;892385]Shanahan...loves to screw with the media, and the public. Listen to any of his pressers. It's obvious.
However, through all, there is never a shortage of people.....biting on his every word and scrutinizing same.
Take the hook out of your mouth.......[/quote]

Since I am not the media then Shanahan must "love to screw" with the fan base. If thats his intention then he's an idiot.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;892453]I'm going to just post this not to start a debate/fight/whatever but just because I think its a very interesting read...


[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1089725-why-african-american-qbs-are-systemically-trained-to-abandon-mechanics]Why African-American QBs Are Systemically Trained to Abandon Mechanics | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

Good article that's worth some discussion but not sure if this particular thread is the right place for it. Author makes some good, valid points.

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Mike Shanahan is thinking positive and trying to talk up his team. The Redskins did some excellent things on offense last year, with Jabar Gaffney and Fred Davis as heavy hitters in the passing game. But injuries to certain members of the offensive line along with Cooley's and Hightower's injury contributed to how much the offense under performed. The Redskins were ranked 16th, right in the middle of the NFL which should tell anyone that they WERE NOT a playoff caliber offense last season.

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I like what he is saying. He is giving the players we have on the roster a little confidence, and I honestly believe without the injuries we had along the offensive line, RB, WR and TE, we could have made the playoffs. The offense got better as the season progressed (when rex was put back in), we finished 16th overall with a make shift line, no TE, and two rookie RBs. So yeah, i think that if we had stayed healthy we would have made a run at the division.

I also believe had half of the picks that went on to Rex's stats, had been caught or flat out dropped (vs tipped into defenders hands) he would have had an exceptional year. Of the 20 he threw, several we tipped or wrong routes. I am not saying he didn't make bad decisions on some of those, but there were a good bit that were not one him. Two in one game were Fred's fault for bad routes. Two I can count off Moss's hands, Armstrongs hands. I'll probably get blasted for that! LOL

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[quote=redskins forever;892484]he might have been right if, as the season went on we didnt score less points. hell i cant even remember how many times we broke 30 pts.[/quote]

December 19, 2010 vs Dallas Cowboys L 33-30

closest to that

December 13, 2009 vs Oakland Raiders W 34-13

closest to that

December 23, 2007 vs Minnesota Vikings W 32- 21

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[quote=Dirtbag59;892604]December 19, 2010 vs Dallas Cowboys L 33-30

closest to that

December 13, 2009 vs Oakland Raiders W 34-13

closest to that

December 23, 2007 vs Minnesota Vikings W 32- 21[/quote]

That's so depressing, thanks.

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[I]If we assume:[/I]
-Rex&Beck
+good QB.
Therefore, truth.

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[quote=#56fanatic;892513]I like what he is saying. He is giving the players we have on the roster a little confidence, and I honestly believe without the injuries we had along the offensive line, RB, WR and TE, we could have made the playoffs. The offense got better as the season progressed (when rex was put back in), we finished 16th overall with a make shift line, no TE, and two rookie RBs. So yeah, i think that if we had stayed healthy we would have made a run at the division.

I also believe had half of the picks that went on to Rex's stats, had been caught or flat out dropped (vs tipped into defenders hands) he would have had an exceptional year. Of the 20 he threw, several we tipped or wrong routes. I am not saying he didn't make bad decisions on some of those, but there were a good bit that were not one him. Two in one game were Fred's fault for bad routes. Two I can count off Moss's hands, Armstrongs hands. I'll probably get blasted for that! LOL[/quote]

I think your memory is accurate. Unfortunately, Rex had some really bad INTs as well.

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Look we sucked last year .. we all understand that .. but you have to admit at times Rex had the offense looking like an actual offense for the first time in YEARS .. the point he's trying to make is that the system will work once the pieces are in place ... look at the running game for example .. Hightower looked great, admit it ! He was kicking ass at first then the injury bug got em .. Helu looked great ... last 4 games we missed Davis/Williams ... no Cooley pretty much all season .. no Moss for about 5 games .. no HANK .. i mean come on ..just pointing out some bright spots .. ease up on the Shanny trash talking ... Patience .. that's all .. Patience ... he ain't stupid .. he's worked with Elway & Young so he knows we need a franchise QB ... i'll tell you this much if it aint RG3 it will be Peyton and a drafted QB to groom ... I'm all in for RG3 but regardless it's going to be fun in DC this year

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Shanahan said that we are not going to give farm for RG3 because we have a lot of holes to fill. saying that we need depth at every position. so need to settle with flynn or tanenhill as our QB.

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[quote=bertoskins2;893799]Shanahan said that we are not going to give farm for RG3 because we have a lot of holes to fill. saying that we need depth at every position. [SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"]so need to settle with flynn or tanenhill as our QB[/COLOR][/SIZE].[/quote]

He said that?????
C'mon.....

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he probably meant qb as well

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What if the Redskins feel signing Grossman is counter productive? While he knows the offense well, he committed turnovers, whether interceptions or fumbles, in every game he played in last season. Kyle Shanahan spoke highly of him recently, but that doesn't mean that he will be re-signed. John Beck, as much as I don't him, could be the primary back up behind RG3. If Jonathan Crompton impresses in training camp and preseason, Beck could be traded or released unless the Redskins decide to keep three quarterbacks.

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what team would trade for beck?

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[quote=los panda;895378]what team would trade for beck?[/quote]

We could trade Beck to my local Nike outlet store to be a cashier in exchange for a discount off jerseys?

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his hair would drive business away, they wouldn't bite

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[quote=los panda;895378]what team would trade for beck?[/quote]

Arizona has been making some boneheaded moves.

They traded a great CB and draft pick for Kolb, then gave him a HUGE deal before they had to. BUST.

They gave us Hightower for a player we were going to cut. Hightower had a HUGE impact before injury.

Levi Brown's contract.

If they don't get Manning, I could see them trading for Beck! Kolb is going to be insulted (and isn't very good anyways) and is John Skelton their answer? He has only one fan and that guy is a Warpath member!