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[quote=skinsfan69;886864]It still amazes that people think Manning is going anywhere but to retirement. He can't even throw the ball.[/quote]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/17/weinke-its-proven-manning-can-return-from-injury/]Weinke: It’s “proven” Manning can return from injury | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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For me I started to believe in Manning's comeback after I read a post on here linking to an article by the Seahawks fan site that cleared up some things on his surgery. It gave me the impression that with more throwing and practice, the better the arm will get. If someone can repost that here it would be great.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;886869]For me I started to believe in Manning's comeback after I read a post on here linking to an article by the Seahawks fan site that cleared up some things on his surgery. It gave me the impression that with more throwing and practice, the better the arm will get. If someone can repost that here it would be great.[/quote]

I agree, it's the most sensible article about his situation. It was posted in the other thread.

[url=http://12thmanrising.com/2012/02/18/peyton-manning-update/]Peyton Manning Update - 12th Man Rising - A Seattle Seahawks Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.[/url]

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[quote=skinsfan69;886864]It still amazes that people think Manning is going anywhere but to retirement. He can't even throw the ball.[/quote]

Sorry, but Peyton manning is not going to retire. No way he goes out like this. He will be back for a minimum 3 more years, and he will do just fine.

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[quote=skinsfan69;886864]It still amazes that people think Manning is going anywhere but to retirement. He can't even throw the ball.[/quote]manning is finished

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It amazes me that some doubt Peyton.

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This is what i expect:

We will add a veteran who will be the opening day starter which will be 1. Manning or 2. Orton

We will draft a QB in the second round or late first which will be 1. Tannehill or 2. Cousins

We will add another young QB reject from another team which will be 1. Clausen or 2. Dirty Sanchez

I dont see us moving up for RG3 or Luck b/c the asking price will be too high. Either way, our QB will be better than last year.

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This is what I expect:

We make the move up take RGIII who is our opening day starter.

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I really don't know at this point what the skins will do. It would be amazing we signed Manning, Colston or Jackson then still traded up to get RGIII. I know it won't happen, but i can dream.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7592057]RG3 Draft Prep - ESPN Video - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;886883]It amazes me that some doubt Peyton.[/quote]
I only doubt that he'll ever be healthy again. If he's 100% of the QB he's always been, then there's certainly no doubt. But I think given all the surgeries, that's a stretch at this point.

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Prediction for QBs on roster heading into training camp:

Brandon Weeden, Rex Grossman, John Beck, Nate Davis, G.J. Kinne

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/steve-young-thinks-peyton-manning-to-the-redskins-is-a-fit/2012/02/08/gIQAY0pNzQ_blog.html]Steve Young thinks Peyton Manning to the Redskins is a fit - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post[/url]

steve young's thoughts

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;886892]Prediction for QBs on roster heading into training camp:

Brandon Weeden, Rex Grossman, John Beck, Nate Davis, G.J. Kinne[/QUOTE]

There is absolutely no chance Rex and beck are both on still and no to weeden also, we will go get Manning or orton before that

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[quote=skinsfaninok;886894]There is absolutely no chance Rex and beck are both on still and no to weeden also, we will go get Manning or orton before that[/quote]I don't think Rex and Beck will both make the 53 man roster.

And I think that they'll at least make an attempt to sign Kyle Orton before they lock on Brandon Weeden in the draft. I say Weeden not because I believe in him, but because of all the guys who will be there when the Redskins pick in the second round, he's the only one that isn't mechanically flawed in some way. So there's no projection, it's strictly plug and play, which is what the Redskins are looking for with Orton.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;886892]Prediction for QBs on roster heading into training camp:



Brandon Weeden, Rex Grossman, John Beck, Nate Davis, G.J. Kinne[/QUOTE]

I'll be pissed.

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My prediction for QBs heading into camp:

Robert Griffin III, Kyle Orton, and Josh Johnson.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;886897]My prediction for QBs heading into camp:

Robert Griffin III, Kyle Orton, and Josh Johnson.[/quote]Randle El as a camp arm?

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[quote=Mattyk;886883]It amazes me that some doubt Peyton.[/quote]

It amazes me we have so many doctors and physical therapists, on this site, that have worked with Peyton.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;886816]Ok, so how long until this thread is at 40 pages, I say 3 days...

SS, what is this list you made, your predictions or what you know is going to happen?

Side note,[B] I have a very good feeling that we're getting Bradford[/B], I don't really know why, but I feel like it'll happen. And That'll be great.[/quote]

I have the same feeling, maybe it's just wishful thinking.

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[quote=redskins5044;886851]Even if Flynn signs with Browns and Manning goes to Dolphins, we are still going to have to trade up to #2 or #3 to get RG3 but it may lower the cost for us to get him.[/quote]

What makes you say this? I gotta imagine its ideal for the browns to get their starting qb. Theres never any guarantees in the draft and RG3 could fall to six. He could fall to 15 you never know. Aaron Rogers was pegged as top 3 pic guaranteed too.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;886898]Randle El as a camp arm?[/QUOTE]

Why not? Brad Smith and Josh Cribbs too.

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[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES;886902]What makes you say this? I gotta imagine its ideal for the browns to get their starting qb. Theres never any guarantees in the draft and RG3 could fall to six. He could fall to 15 you never know. Aaron Rogers was pegged as top 3 pic guaranteed too.[/QUOTE]

I gotta imagine if Cleveland takes Flynn, and Miami Manning that RGIII falling to six is all but certain.

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[quote=Mattyk;886883]It amazes me that some doubt Peyton.[/quote]

I would certainly not propose to tell you what or how to think, but surely you can understand that some of us may see the situation differently. Four surgeries, uncertainty about recovery, his age, and playing out of his comfort zone in Indy would be factors that might be considered when evaluating the wisdom of adding him to the Redskins roster.

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[quote=SKINSnCANES;886902]What makes you say this? I gotta imagine its ideal for the browns to get their starting qb. Theres never any guarantees in the draft and RG3 could fall to six. He could fall to 15 you never know. Aaron Rogers was pegged as top 3 pic guaranteed too.[/quote]

Key would could. There could be a mystery team that might trade to 2,3,4,5 pick to grab him. If he is the QB we want then I think you can't take any chances of some other team leap frogging us to get him.

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With the Vikings and Rams targeting Khalil and Blackmon would they want to drop to the 12-20 spots is the case. Everyone has a price yes but not everyone is Atlanta Falcons stupid.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;886917]With the Vikings and Rams targeting Khalil and Blackmon would they want to drop to the 12-20 spots is the case. Everyone has a price yes but not everyone is Atlanta Falcons stupid.[/quote]

No but the Bucs or browns could drop that far to pick up extra picks. They do pick before us. Who knows what can happen? The Seahawks or chiefs could trade up. I am saying if we want him we better go get him and not wait for him to drop.

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True. I'm for trading up but if Cleveland takes Flynn I'm about 90% sure Blackmon is a Brown. Bucs apparently love Claiborne, but I agree go get him. If I was the GM the trade would be unofficially official around the beginning of April lol.

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[quote=GTripp0012;886898]Randle El as a camp arm?[/quote]

Funny you should mention his name, I was in DC this weekend ran into

Antwaan Randle El, Marcus Stroud, and Marques Colston.


What are you guys doing here I asked them.

"We're taking a business class at GW for the offseason."

"Oh ok good luck! Marques, we want you! come to the Skins."

MC " Haa.. we'll see man"

Randle El "They'll definitely pay you! HaHa HAA."

we all laughed and went our separate ways down china town

I still see Flynn in Miami and Browns getting RG3, Manning to us along with RT

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[quote=Mattyk;886883]It amazes me that some doubt Peyton.[/quote]what is amazing about the doubt? i can throw a football farther than him. it's been how long since the injury? it's been how long since the first surgery? he's had how many surgeries? i'm not putting him into the same category as santa claus or the easter bunny, but come on, doubt is very reasonable at this point. let me know when he can throw a football farther than i can.

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[quote=Mattyk;886883]It amazes me that some doubt Peyton.[/quote]

Vinny? Is that you?

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[quote=GTripp0012;886854]This article was written to remind you it is almost too easy to get useful draft information from Mike Holmgren. Though this isn't really breaking new ground now that it's been reported.

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/19/browns-focusing-on-five-in-the-first-round/"]Browns focusing on five in the first round | ProFootballTalk[/URL]

The biggest takeaway from this: that the Browns can get someone from that group for certain if they trade down from 4 to 6.

The Dolphins remain a wild card pending free agency,[B] but I still think Griffin will be there at no. 4,[/B] and I doubt that the Dolphins can put together an offer that beats the Redskins offer if the Browns really want someone on that short list.[/quote]

Personally I think not.

[url=http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/christian_ponder_could_be_odd_man_out_for_vikings/10003849]Christian Ponder Could Be Odd Man Out for Vikings[/url]

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Last week, the rumors that Minnesota would entertain drafting Luck or Griffin, got some credibility, as Vikings GM Rick Spielman acknowledged it would be under consideration. To that I say, why wouldn’t it be? Sure it’s not what Christian Ponder wants to hear, but beyond that, the Vikings are stupid to not weigh all their options.
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[quote]Many Vikings fans want to draft Justin Blackmon, which would give Ponder a clear number one option for years to come. This is definitely a realistic option, and should be under equal consideration. However, the most important position in the NFL is quarterback. Elite QB’s don’t just come around every year. The Vikings have a chance that presents itself to a franchise, maybe once every fifteen years[/quote]

[url=http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/report_browns_will_likely_attempt_to_trade_up_for_robert_griffin_iii/9974500]Report: Browns will try to draft RG3[/url]

[quote]According to [URL="http://video-embed.cleveland.com/services/player/bcpid619326673001?bctid=1458246011001&bckey=AQ~~,AAAAQBxUNqE~,xKBGzTdiYSQED_HQJlhmSCKNFhrBY-nL"][COLOR=#0000ff]Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer[/COLOR][/URL], there’s a really good chance that the Browns will attempt to trade up for the second overall pick in April’s draft, in order to get Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III.
“If the Browns determine at the Combine next week and maybe through one or two more visits that RGIII is their man, I don’t think they would hesitate to give up their No. 4 and their No. 22 to pull off this deal,” said Cabot. “… It’s almost a perfect match. I think at this point it’s very likely that could happen.”
The Browns will of course have to outbid the Washington Redskins for the second pick, since[URL="http://profootballzone.com/nfl/report-redskins-looking-to-trade-up-for-the-2nd-overall-pick/"][COLOR=#0000ff] they’ve also been mentioned as team that’s looking to trade up for RGIII[/COLOR][/URL].. There’s no question though that the Browns have a lot more ammunition then the Redskins to make the trade happen.
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I'm just saying as I've said in the past don't think just because we want RGIII that no one else will attempt to get him. Don't think that because each team above us from 1-5 has other needs besides QB ... don't think they are not thinking the same way you guys are ... that RGIII " solves our QB situation for the next 10+ years". I just have not seen that the Rams, Vikes, or Browns are satisfied with their QB situation and won't draft a QB. Yes they have several options to think about but if their coaching staff believes as some fans here do that RGIII is a once in a life time type of QB then expect them to make a run at drafting him also.

I just don't see the Skins being able to pick up RGIII and don't see him falling to them at #6. Trade back pick up more picks get the next best QB and WR to make a duo for the future.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;886911]I gotta imagine if Cleveland takes Flynn, and Miami Manning that RGIII falling to six is all but certain.[/quote]


YYEEAA.... OK. Wishfull thinking.

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^Sure. As much as I like RG3 and Luck. I know that it takes more than just a "franchise" QB to win a championship.

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I swear I just love how fans seem to think they know what the other teams will do.

Browns getting Flynn? why? he'd be better served to go to Miami where his former coach went to.

PM to Miami? I doubt it. Seattle? I doubt it. Browns? their a hexed franchise. Redskins are about the only team who can out bid everyone and still pick up other FA's. Plus look closer to the playoffs vs. some of the other teams needing a QB. Unless he takes chump change to go to the Giants to be with his brother.

Hoyer will cost a draft pick. I'd make the trade if it was a late round pick like a 4th or later. Other wise keep the draft picks.

Orton, please don't get me started. Orton couldn't beat out Grossman in Chicago. We'd be better off keeping Grossman due to him already having knowledge of the scheme.

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[QUOTE=SBXVII;886927]YYEEAA.... OK. Wishfull thinking.[/QUOTE]

Yeah you must not know what "if" means.

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[QUOTE=SBXVII;886929]Orton, please don't get me started. Orton couldn't beat out Grossman in Chicago. We'd be better off keeping Grossman due to him already having knowledge of the scheme.[/QUOTE]orton is much more careful with the ball. that goes a long way with a defense like ours.

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This is the time of the year where every agent, team exec, team scout really amp up their embelishments, exxagerations and half truths.

Everyone is telling stories with varying levels of truth to each in an effort to create value for their player/client, or their draft position, or to glean information about how different teams or scouts rate their client, or other prospects.

Each part of the chain is dependent upon the other for their information.
Yet everyone knows that they're not at liberty nor are they expected to be completely honest.
A scout might tell an agent something (that may not be true) in exchange for something that agent tells the scout (that may not be true) the scout then talks to a reporter/journalist/media member and tells them something 'off the record' (that almost certainly isn't true about a prospect or about their teams plans) the reporter then confirms this story with an agent (who will say virtually anything to increase his clients value). Story gets printed in a newspaper or blog or article.
Rinse. Wash. Repeat.

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rinse with hose water and hold the bleach, vinegar is much safer for your "fabrics"