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SirClintonPortis 11-24-2011 10:35 PM

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Alex Smith is 3 sacks away from tying John Beck's total.

skinsfaninok 11-24-2011 10:47 PM

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[quote=htownskinfan;862864]For all those romo haters I wish one of the skins qbs could make plays like him.The way that guy can sense pressure and spin out of trouble and make the throw is just uncanny.Yeah he makes mistakes sometimes that cost his team a game,big deal,that's practically an every game occurance for our qbs


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U know I've honestly always thought he was pretty good, the guy just seems to make some crazy plays.. Is he a GREAT QB?NO but he's better than anyone we've had in 20 years so I agree w you.

skinsfaninok 11-24-2011 10:48 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;862928]Alex Smith is 3 sacks away from tying John Beck's total.[/quote]


I'll stick with it and say SF is a 1 and done in the playoffs

I sound like a hater but they are one of the worst 9-1 teams I've seen

GMScud 11-24-2011 10:50 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;862928]Alex Smith is 3 sacks away from tying John Beck's total.[/quote]

Except Beck was playing the previously-4 sacks all season long-Bills, not the Ravens in a home night game.

SFREDSKIN 11-24-2011 10:51 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;862933]I'll stick with it and say SF is a 1 and done in the playoffs

I sound like a hater but they are one of the worst 9-1 teams I've seen[/quote]

They flew East for the 5th time this season, this time on 3 days rest. They lost their RG Snyder and was placed by Rachal who sucks. if the game was played in SF it would be reversed.

skinsfaninok 11-24-2011 10:54 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;862935]They flew East for the 5th time this season, this time on 3 days rest. They lost their RG Snyder and was placed by Rachal who sucks. if the game was played in SF it would be reversed.[/quote]


They cant score man and that passing offense is worse that ours.. Yeah they have a big time D but I just don't see anything scary about SF.. Gore is great but getting older, they are having a great season but lets see if they do again next year.. Miami went 11-5 a few years back too

GTripp0012 11-24-2011 10:57 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;862936]They cant score man and that passing offense is worse that ours.. Yeah they have a big time D but I just don't see anything scary about SF.. Gore is great but getting older, they are having a great season but lets see if they do again next year.. Miami went 11-5 a few years back too[/quote]I'm not sure that you've seen our passing offense lately.

SFREDSKIN 11-24-2011 10:59 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;862936]They cant score man and that passing offense is worse that ours.. Yeah they have a big time D but I just don't see anything scary about SF.. Gore is great but getting older, they are having a great season but lets see if they do again next year.. Miami went 11-5 a few years back too[/quote]

Yet they beat Cincy in Cincy, Philly in Philly,Detroit in Detroit, Giants, barely lost to cowboys. They will be a threat in the playoffs especially if they get a home game. By the way, I despise the 49ers.

skinsfaninok 11-24-2011 11:00 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;862937]I'm not sure that you've seen our passing offense lately.[/quote]


LOL Unfortunately I have but still SF ranks like 29th in passing? Thats a 1 dimensional team, they have won some close games that have bounced their way. Again lets see if they will do this next yr

GTripp0012 11-24-2011 11:02 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;862939]LOL Unfortunately I have but still SF ranks like 29th in passing? Thats a 1 dimensional team, they have won some close games that have bounced their way. Again lets see if they will do this next yr[/quote]They're simplistic because they have to be, but they're pretty good at passing.

GMScud 11-24-2011 11:05 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;862939]LOL Unfortunately I have but still SF ranks like 29th in passing? Thats a 1 dimensional team, they have won some close games that have bounced their way. Again lets see if they will do this next yr[/quote]

It's not where they rank, it's what they do with their passing game. Sure it didn't work tonight, but Smith had 13 Tds and only 4 picks and nearly 2000 yds going into tonight's game. Plus he can make some serious plays with his feet. Sure they're a run first/defensive ball club, but Smith has done what's asked of him very well this season.

skinsfaninok 11-24-2011 11:09 PM

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[quote=GMScud;862941]It's not where they rank, it's what they do with their passing game. Sure it didn't work tonight, but Smith had 13 Tds and only 4 picks and nearly 2000 yds going into tonight's game. Plus he can make some serious plays with his feet. Sure they're a run first/defensive ball club, but Smith has done what's asked of him very well this season.[/quote]

I understand but again thats 1 season, JC had a very good year for us a few years back, think it was like 23 Tds to 10 ints or something. Smith is what he is, a bust thats having a decent yr but he won't continue to keep it up. I give them props 9-1 start is amazing but I still see 1 and done

SirClintonPortis 11-24-2011 11:19 PM

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[quote=GMScud;862934]Except Beck was playing the previously-4 sacks all season long-Bills, not the Ravens in a home night game.[/quote]
The 49ers were suppposed to be this run heavy team with a good OL and running game. They were reduced to looking like the Bears or Redskins Oline of the past couple of years.

Not only that, but some of the sacks Smith took were easily avoidable. He was out of the pocket on a couple of them and thus could have thrown those balls away.

Dirtbag59 11-24-2011 11:21 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;862886][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7276717/ndamukong-suh-detroit-lions-ejected-denies-stomped-green-bay-packers-lineman]Ndamukong Suh of Detroit Lions ejected, denies he stomped Green Bay Packers lineman - ESPN[/url]



Yeah, that explanation was pretty weak. They should suspend him two games just to let this guy know it's not tolerated.[/quote]

This is the same guy that tried to rip Jake Delhomme's head off in a preseason game.

SFREDSKIN 11-24-2011 11:27 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;862945]The 49ers were suppposed to be this run heavy team with a good OL and running game. They were reduced to looking like the Bears or Redskins Oline of the past couple of years.

Not only that, but some of the sacks Smith took were easily avoidable. He was out of the pocket on a couple of them and thus could have thrown those balls away.[/quote]

When you lose one of your best G (Snyder) just like when we lost Lichsteiger the OL goes to shit.

htownskinfan 11-24-2011 11:30 PM

[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;862914]Why dont you send him some flowers.[/QUOTE]

Haha very funny

I don't think he needs any but maybe grossman & beck do


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SirClintonPortis 11-24-2011 11:39 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;862947]When you lose one of your best G (Snyder) just like when we lost Lichsteiger the OL goes to shit.[/quote]
Baltimore averaged 2.9 sacks a game before this game. 9 sacks is triple that. Hell, even JC in 2008 was sacked only twice against the Ravens. Losing an OL definitely can wreak the OL, but 9 sacks in a game is a rarity no matter what. And there were a couple sacks Smith certainly could have avoided.

SFREDSKIN 11-24-2011 11:47 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;862952]Baltimore averaged 2.9 sacks a game before this game. 9 sacks is triple that. Hell, even JC in 2008 was sacked only twice against the Ravens. Losing an OL definitely can wreak the OL, but 9 sacks in a game is a rarity no matter what. And there were a couple sacks Smith certainly could have avoided.[/quote]

The Bills had 10 against us the game after losing Lichtsteiger, the 49ers lost Snyder in the 2nd qtr.

skinsfaninok 11-24-2011 11:52 PM

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Does it matter? LOL Both lines are banged up and in this NFL its hard to have depth..

SirClintonPortis 11-24-2011 11:56 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;862953]The Bills had 10 against us the game after losing Lichtsteiger, the 49ers lost Snyder in the 2nd qtr.[/quote]

Smith already got sacked twice in the first quarter. His third came at 14:46 in the second quarter.

Beck was extremely hesitant in that game. That hesitation was a bigger reason behind the 10 sacks than the loss of Lichtensteiger.

Dirtbag59 11-25-2011 04:37 AM

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Question: Is Suh the next Sapp or Haynesworth?

htownskinfan 11-25-2011 06:05 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;862962]Question: Is Suh the next Sapp or Haynesworth?[/quote]

Well we will see when he becomes a free agent and the skins give him a 60 million signing bonus and 200 million contract:smashfrea

mlmdub130 11-25-2011 07:35 AM

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[quote=mlmpetert;862895]I was unable to watch (thanksgiving stuff) but heres the video:

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8246e0dc/article/lions-dt-suh-ejected-for-unsportsmanlike-conduct-vs-packers]NFL.com news: Lions DT Suh ejected for unsportsmanlike conduct vs. Packers[/url]

In the first angle i thought it was unintentional, but the in the second angle you can see that Sue really wanted to kick or stomp him or at him. I liked Sue a lot up until this point, this is the kind of stuff Goodell needs to come down hard on. I hope he gets a massive fine and suspension.

[B]Also if not Sue's selfish action, GB would have been held to 3 and Detroit would have only been down by 10, with almost 2 quarters remaining. Sue put himself above his teammates and got himself kicked out of the game and turned a defensive hold for a FG into an opportunity for GB to get a TD. Detroit lost a very important game and will now have a harder time securing a wild card spot. His actions were as selfish and unsportsmanlike like as it gets[/B].[/quote]

this is the point i was going to make. i can't imagine his coaches and teamates will care much for his apology once they see the film and realize that since suh couldn't keep his composure he cost his team the points and possibly the game by being kicked out. like you said i also liked suh a lot coming out of college and thought he could be a really great player, but like some one else said i hope he doesn't turn into a haynesworth, but with a half as non apology that could only be a sign of how truly imature he actaually is.

it will be interesting to see what punishment is handed out, i'm thinking he has to be suspended at least one game up to three. i could see it being multiple games because he is a repeat offender, and because of his failed post game apology. dude just needs to grow the f up.

Hog1 11-25-2011 10:36 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;862962]Question: Is Suh the next Sapp or Haynesworth?[/quote]

IF it were up to me he would be unemployed for the remainder of this season......

Giantone 11-25-2011 10:51 AM

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[quote=Hog1;862991]IF it were up to me he would be unemployed for the remainder of this season......[/quote]


You might get your wish, or at least a good portion of it.

My bet a 4 game suspension and at least 100,000 fine.

NC_Skins 11-25-2011 12:32 PM

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[quote=Giantone;862992]You might get your wish, or at least a good portion of it.

My bet a 4 game suspension and at least 100,000 fine.[/quote]


My guess it'll be a 2 game suspension with 3 being the max.

Dirtbag59 11-25-2011 06:53 PM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/25/ndamukong-suh-out-of-control-college-teammate-says/]Ndamukong Suh “out of control,” college teammate says | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Alvin Walton 11-25-2011 08:02 PM

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Attica!
Attica!

SFREDSKIN 11-25-2011 08:38 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;862945]The 49ers were suppposed to be this run heavy team with a good OL and running game. They were reduced to looking like the Bears or Redskins Oline of the past couple of years.

Not only that, but some of the sacks Smith took were easily avoidable. He was out of the pocket on a couple of them and thus could have thrown those balls away.[/quote]

As I was saying:

[url=http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2011/11/25/harbaugh-spreads-blame-on-pass-protection-problems/?tsp=1]San Francisco 49ers – Niner Insider Blog – SFGate.com » Harbaugh spreads blame on pass-protection problems[/url]

NC_Skins 11-27-2011 11:09 AM

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[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Cowboys-cheerleader-knocked-over-by-Witten-force?urn=nfl-wp12519[/url]


Really Cowboys? Really?

NC_Skins 11-27-2011 12:32 PM

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7286514/at-least-2-game-ban-likely-ndamukong-suh-detroit-lions-sources-say]At least 2-game ban likely for Ndamukong Suh of Detroit Lions, sources say - ESPN[/url]


Looks like 2 games is going to be the minimum.

SFREDSKIN 11-27-2011 12:54 PM

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Being that today is Sean Taylor's death anniversary, will the skins play extra hard in his honor?

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Remembering-Sean-Taylor-four-years-after-his-de;_ylt=AtKrJJ6Jw2YvTW_WxCCC.GdDubYF?urn=nfl-wp12545]Remembering Sean Taylor, four years after his death - Shutdown Corner - NFL Blog - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

NC_Skins 11-27-2011 01:12 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;863168]Being that today is Sean Taylor's death anniversary, will the skins play extra hard in his honor?

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Remembering-Sean-Taylor-four-years-after-his-de;_ylt=AtKrJJ6Jw2YvTW_WxCCC.GdDubYF?urn=nfl-wp12545]Remembering Sean Taylor, four years after his death - Shutdown Corner - NFL*Blog - Yahoo! Sports[/url][/quote]

Why would they? Most of the people on this team weren't even around when he was here.

SFREDSKIN 11-27-2011 01:19 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;863171]Why would they? Most of the people on this team weren't even around when he was here.[/quote]

Why wouldn't they? Have you heard of pride?

NC_Skins 11-27-2011 01:22 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;863172]Why wouldn't they? Have you heard of pride?[/quote]


Those guys will play hard for pride within themselves, not because of the loss of a guy that most probably didn't know or never played with.

CultBrennan59 11-27-2011 01:49 PM

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^ agreed

mooby 11-27-2011 01:55 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;863174]No offense, but it's time to let the Sean Taylor stuff go. Those guys will play hard for pride within themselves, not because of the loss of a guy that most probably didn't know or never played with.[/quote]

Everybody heals within their own ways. Best to just respect that and leave it alone. But I'd imagine there is probably very few players on this current Redskins team that know the significance of today. I'm sure Santana Moss will remember, but outside him I don't think there's many players left from 07.

GMScud 11-27-2011 02:02 PM

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[quote=mooby;863194]Everybody heals within their own ways. Best to just respect that and leave it alone. But I'd imagine there is probably very few players on this current Redskins team that know the significance of today. I'm sure Santana Moss will remember, but outside him I don't think there's many players left from 07.[/quote]

Santana, Cooley, Laron, Sellers, maybe a few others.

But for us fans, man I miss that dude prowling in the back 4. RIP, Sean. I can't believe it's been 4 years.

GMScud 11-27-2011 02:25 PM

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Matt Leinart just hurt his throwing shoulder. Went into the locker room. TJ Yates takes the reins for the Texans. Wow.

NC_Skins 11-27-2011 02:54 PM

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Sanchez shitting it up again. 8/20 passing?...lol


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