Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

The hiring of Shanny was just another gimmick hiring. I am not so sure if Snyder really cares about winning either. Shanny got us rubes excited in the beginning, and yet now only not quite halfway through year 2 of the Shanny era, we see that the guy just might be a bum. What would be hilarious is if Norv got the boot from San Diego only to be rehired here. It could happen. Cowher turned down the notion of coaching anywhere next season via twitter, so Norv would be the only sexy pick available for Snyder to consider, unless he really got gutsy and hired a truly able OC or DC from somewhere in the league, a young Norv if you will. The thing is Snyder is running out of cards to play post Shanny. Norv would probably be the only veteran coach who would even go for the job here, and even that isn't likely since the way Snyder canned him after 2000. Why, oh why do we keep wanting to drink Snyder's Kool Aid?

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=skinsfan69;853891]Yeah but who's going to be in charge of picking the QB? Cause right now, I simply don't trust the Shanahan's when it comes to picking a qb.[/quote]

Skins,

If this crap doesn't get better in say 5 weeks the Shanny's are toast. The crap is getting old and Snyder knows it. He expects to fill the stands, etc with a crappy product in a town with many other distractions offered to the public? If this continues you will have empty seats by December. The fact that we got so hot over a coach who hasn't done anything special since John Elway was still around tells something about how desperate we are for a winner here, and how we can be delusional as well.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=diehard;853837]I'm smaking down the mods, the fans, hell even myself for believing this team was any good. The Shanahans are on the hot seat for real.

And take that damn devil off the page too! Sheesh.[/quote]

You really want the Shanahan's gone? That's so Snyder-esqe of you. Hasn't that been our problem over the last 15 years...impantience. We've been a crappy organization for a long time...we're rebuilding...at least we're rebuilding.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=redsk1;853905]You really want the Shanahan's gone? That's so Snyder-esqe of you. Hasn't that been our problem over the last 15 years...impantience. We've been a crappy organization for a long time...we're rebuilding...at least we're rebuilding.[/quote]

Yeah, I was opposed to the Shanny hire and sadly I feel that my opinion has been vindicated. But yet another knee-jerk change of regimes probably won't fare any better than what we've got now.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

The Shanaplan is non existent. The guy doesn't know how to rebuild a franchise, or coach unless he inherited much of it. My uncle is a better coach than Shanny. Too bad he is 80, I would recommend him for the job. He is really into the trenches stuff.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

Call it a gimmick or call it hiring Butthole Harbaugh, but either way, you know it wouldn't work out here. WTF?!

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

I'm now rooting for the dolphins and colts to win 3 games...you see where I'm going with this..

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

it was the wife's birthday today, and I am sooooooooooooooooooo glad I didn't spend it in front of the tv watching..whatever the **** that was... today. **** this team.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=BleedBurgundy;853914]it was the wife's birthday today, and I am sooooooooooooooooooo glad I didn't spend it in front of the tv watching..whatever the **** that was... today. **** this team.[/quote]

You are a smart man Burgundy. I bet you score more than the Skins do!!!!!!

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

My smackdown goes to the worst offense in the league. Ladies and gentlemen this is our Washington Redskins team. In the last two weeks we have made two of the worst defensive teams in the league look like the defense you would get if you combined the best of the 85 bears w/ the 2000 Ravens. Our offense is truly pathetic. 14 rushing yards today, we have so many positions of need that we cant fill them all in the 2012 draft which means next year will be tough too. FML.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=BleedBurgundy;853914]it was the wife's birthday today, and I am sooooooooooooooooooo glad I didn't spend it in front of the tv watching..whatever the **** that was... today. **** this team.[/quote]

on another bonus for it being your wifes b day and you had much better things to do than watch the skins game . . . if it wasnt your wifes b day and you told her "hey hon im just gonna go down to the bar and watch the game, be back when its over" .... it was over in 2 and a half ****in hours, yeah man not only did the skins suck ballsack they did it in a time frame that you totally didnt expect and was not prepared to cut your drinking needing intake geared towards.

if i know i got an hr and a half, i drink accordingly meaning 4 buds leaving lil alcohol residual smell plus no less then 3 vodka drinks so i actually somekinda drunk. this requires some secret home care follow up in the basement.

if i got 3 plus hours i like to go strong on the whiskey hard and heavy early knowing that leaves me a good hr and half to cover the smell deep in my throat and tongue (citric cleanser mixed drinks). we are talking hammer time in 3 hours guaranteed.

give me a normal 4 hr football game and im going banananas ball to the wall for a good 2 hours, tone it down to citric mixed drinks to cleanse the palate type shit in hour 3 then strictly light beers like bud and boh for the final 4th hour.

..i forgot what we are talking about . .

edit - oh yeah i remember. FREAK THE SKINS for doing some 2 half hour bullshit game. i got to get to the bar after doing the lady shit right before halftime. i plan my drunk schedule accordingly. NEXT ****ING thing i know the second half flys along and the skins game, which i told the lady i was gonna be home once it ended, was OVER AT 630! wtf man, a 2 and half hour game? **** you pansy bitch ass loser muther ****ers. atleast put up a 3.5 to 4 hour fight ya punk ass lil ****ing bitches . . .

i think i speak for every DMV guy who said "hey honey ill be home after the game" . . .give us our 4 hours a week you ****ing sucker ass sucker bitches

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

John Beck- Might as well go with crompton SERIOUSLY

Ryan Torain- Your not very good dude

A.A- called that last yr, 1 year wonder wont make a team next yr

OL- No Trent Williams means we are a mess apparently

KS/MS- So much for offensive minds in DC huh?

Bruce Allen- Not going w a QB at some point in the off season, yeah MS is in control but you are the GM.

Dan Snyder- This guy will never be a winner in the NFL, I know he hasn't been involved in 2 years but it is what it is..

Brandon Banks- CUT

London Fletcher- For wasting GREAT years of your career with a SORRY ass team..

LL30- Dude STFU for real

Rocky McIntosh- SMH

Rex Grossman- You let Beck take your job dude NUFF said

THE NFL- Why do you let this Organization continue to play in your league?

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=Lotus;853908]Yeah, I was opposed to the Shanny hire and sadly I feel that my opinion has been vindicated. But yet another knee-jerk change of regimes probably won't fare any better than what we've got now.[/quote]

IF the guys sucks, can his ass. The guy and his son don't make halftime adjustments, are horrific play callers, and are morons in getting us in this QB pickle we are now in. The guy is conceited beyond belief in thinking he could convert a BYU retread into a bona fide franchise QB, much less a real starter. I might have to really make waves in here and start a bring back Norv thread!!!!!!

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;853927]John Beck- Might as well go with crompton SERIOUSLY

Ryan Torain- Your not very good dude

A.A- called that last yr, 1 year wonder wont make a team next yr

OL- No Trent Williams means we are a mess apparently

KS/MS- So much for offensive minds in DC huh?

Bruce Allen- Not going w a QB at some point in the off season, yeah MS is in control but you are the GM.

Dan Snyder- This guy will never be a winner in the NFL, I know he hasn't been involved in 2 years but it is what it is..

Brandon Banks- CUT

London Fletcher- For wasting GREAT years of your career with a SORRY ass team..

LL30- Dude STFU for real

Rocky McIntosh- SMH

Rex Grossman- You let Beck take your job dude NUFF said

[COLOR="Red"]THE NFL- Why do you let this Organization continue to play in your league?[/COLOR][/quote]

Yea thats right, kick the Redskins out of the NFL.
Gimme a break.....

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;853930]Yea thats right, kick the Redskins out of the NFL.
Gimme a break.....[/quote]


Sorry just pissed

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;853927]John Beck- Might as well go with crompton SERIOUSLY

Ryan Torain- Your not very good dude

A.A- called that last yr, 1 year wonder wont make a team next yr

OL- No Trent Williams means we are a mess apparently

KS/MS- So much for offensive minds in DC huh?

Bruce Allen- Not going w a QB at some point in the off season, yeah MS is in control but you are the GM.

[B]Dan Snyder- This guy will never be a winner in the NFL, I know he hasn't been involved in 2 years but it is what it is.. [/B]

Brandon Banks- CUT

London Fletcher- For wasting GREAT years of your career with a SORRY ass team..

LL30- Dude STFU for real

Rocky McIntosh- SMH

Rex Grossman- You let Beck take your job dude NUFF said

THE NFL- Why do you let this Organization continue to play in your league?[/quote]

Well for once we can't blame the owner. He hired pros to run his team and right now it's simply not working.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;853912]I'm now rooting for the dolphins and colts to win 3 games...you see where I'm going with this..[/quote]


X2. But the Colts are not going to win any games. They've already mailed it in.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

Colts will win 1 game and Miami will also.. But we will not get LUCK don't even dream it

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=over the mountain;853926]on another bonus for it being your wifes b day and you had much better things to do than watch the skins game . . . if it wasnt your wifes b day and you told her "hey hon im just gonna go down to the bar and watch the game, be back when its over" .... it was over in 2 and a half ****in hours, yeah man not only did the skins suck ballsack they did it in a time frame that you totally didnt expect and was not prepared to cut your drinking needing intake geared towards.

if i know i got an hr and a half, i drink accordingly meaning 4 buds leaving lil alcohol residual smell plus no less then 3 vodka drinks so i actually somekinda drunk. this requires some secret home care follow up in the basement.

if i got 3 plus hours i like to go strong on the whiskey hard and heavy early knowing that leaves me a good hr and half to cover the smell deep in my throat and tongue (citric cleanser mixed drinks). we are talking hammer time in 3 hours guaranteed.

give me a normal 4 hr football game and im going banananas ball to the wall for a good 2 hours, tone it down to citric mixed drinks to cleanse the palate type shit in hour 3 then strictly light beers like bud and boh for the final 4th hour.

..i forgot what we are talking about . .

edit - oh yeah i remember. FREAK THE SKINS for doing some 2 half hour bullshit game. i got to get to the bar after doing the lady shit right before halftime. i plan my drunk schedule accordingly. NEXT ****ING thing i know the second half flys along and the skins game, which i told the lady i was gonna be home once it ended, was OVER AT 630! wtf man, a 2 and half hour game? **** you pansy bitch ass loser muther ****ers. atleast put up a 3.5 to 4 hour fight ya punk ass lil ****ing bitches . . .

i think i speak for every DMV guy who said "hey honey ill be home after the game" . . .give us our 4 hours a week you ****ing sucker ass sucker bitches[/quote]


You are one messed up individual.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;853929]IF the guys sucks, can his ass. The guy and his son don't make halftime adjustments, are horrific play callers, and are morons in getting us in this QB pickle we are now in. The guy is conceited beyond belief in thinking he could convert a BYU retread into a bona fide franchise QB, much less a real starter. I might have to really make waves in here and start a bring back Norv thread!!!!!![/quote]

Ok fine. You'll get no great defense of Shanny Duck and Baby Huey from me...

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

Also, the kicking unit needs a special mention. ANOTHER ****ing blocked kick. I don't know if it's the blockers sucking that much or if Gano's taking too long before starting to kick, but whoever is at fault needs a BIG **** YOU for sucking ass 7 games into the season.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;853940]Also, the kicking unit needs a special mention. ANOTHER ****ing blocked kick. I don't know if it's the blockers sucking that much or if Gano's taking too long before starting to kick, but whoever is at fault needs a BIG **** YOU for sucking ass 7 games into the season.[/quote]

It looked to me like Gano's kick was too low in trajectory.

I didn't see a single second of today's game. House hunting. So I can't comment at all. But I heard it was worse than the score indicated. Oh well. On to next week I suppose

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

Everyone chill out. We are in the middle of a rebuild. If your bitching about losing, you shouldn't have demanded a rebuild in the first place.

We are just experiencing growing pains. Calm down everyone. Take your lips off the barrel and realize it may take another draft or two before we have developed a consistent winner... we'll get there though.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;853935]You are one messed up individual.[/quote]

fact. alot of guys only get to enjoy bar time from kickoff to end whistle.

reality. i really only get let out of the cage from kickoff to end whistle.

today i didnt get let out until roughly 5 mins left in 2nd quarter. around 4:17 we pulled up to whole foods and I was able, after negotiation, to wait in the car and to listen to sunny and the game as i waited for her to go into wholefoods shopipng. we got home. she complained about how she mentioned the dish washer was ready for dirty dishes, not that she said she wanted me to actually do the dirty dishes, just that she mentioned that the dish washer was full of dirty dishes. she then very forcefully talked about how i was up this morning and could have done the dishes. i started to do the dishes even though i literally told her as soon as i got everything inside the house from shopping, "ok im going to the bar, i done missed almost the first half!" i literally asked permission, then was granted permission, to leave the rest of the dirty dishes and run to the bar.

i dont know what you mean by messed up. literrally she is making me enchiladas, the past 20 mins i was away from here was bc she called me away and now she is calling me from downstairs in this eerie "punkipie" voice . . .help me HelP MEEe!!!! im already dead. im just paying out the motions. i think we have top chef lined up for tonight. joy.\\she speaks form the kitche

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=SmootSmack;853946]I didn't see a single second of today's game. House hunting. So I can't comment at all. But I heard it was worse than the score indicated. Oh well. On to next week I suppose[/quote]


I am moving so I had it on but thankfully missed some

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=mbedner3420;853948]Everyone chill out. We are in the middle of a rebuild. If your bitching about losing, you shouldn't have demanded a rebuild in the first place.

We are just experiencing growing pains. Calm down everyone. Take your lips off the barrel and realize it may take another draft or two before we have developed a consistent winner... we'll get there though.[/quote]

I agree wholeheartedly.

PS: I'd like to ask for smackdown of Geico/Orakpo's new commercial spot where he and the caveman are playing scrabble in a park. Terrible... :doh:

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[quote=budw38;853854]What would Mike say to Kyle ..... you're fired .... " momma's boy " ?[/quote]

He should give Ozzie Gullien a call

[url=http://www.mlbtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=2668]Ozzie Guillen Fires Own Son - MLB Trade Rumors Forums[/url]

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=5013035]White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen says he told son Oney to resign from White Sox - ESPN Chicago[/url]

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

Today is the first Skins game in a looooong time I slept through most of it and im glad I did

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=mbedner3420;853948]Everyone chill out. We are in the middle of a rebuild. If your bitching about losing, you shouldn't have demanded a rebuild in the first place.

We are just experiencing growing pains. Calm down everyone. Take your lips off the barrel and realize it may take another draft or two before we have developed a consistent winner... we'll get there though.[/quote]

Agreed, now let's start playing the young guys on a regular basis:

Paul
Hankerson
Austin
Helu
Thompson
Gomes

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=SmootSmack;853946]I didn't see a single second of today's game. House hunting. So I can't comment at all. But I heard it was worse than the score indicated. Oh well. On to next week I suppose[/quote]

Lucky you. (to have missed this steaming pile of doo doo they displayed)

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

We are not a rebuilding team, we just plain suck. Last year, instead of trying to win right away with McNabb, change to a new defense, or spend the entire season teaching Haynesworth a lesson, Mike Shanahan should have been focusing on fixing the offense. Instead, we got duped by the Eagles, have spent a lot of resources on an average defense, and still have the same problems on the offensive side of the ball.

And f*ck this culture change, I thought it was there, but it isn't there. There are supposedly worst teams out there that are playing with more heart and desire, despite the lack of talent. I don't see that on this team. There is no sense of urgency, there is no sense of wanting to play hard.

I wasn't expecting a super bowl, a playoff run, nor a winning season. But I wasn't expecting this piss poor performance period. We have yet to have a coach on this team that takes a look at the players that they have, and figures out a way to use whatever talents they have to the best of their abilities. With scheme, it seems to be my way or the highway with coaches (the latest being a focus on passing and switching to a brand new defensive scheme).

I will still root for my Redskins, but it is going to be a long season since we seem to be dealing with the results of last year's bad decisions.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=Ruhskins;854001]We are not a rebuilding team, [/quote]

Yes we are. You have to read between the lines. When Shanny first took over this team, he flat out said it was going to take some time (stayed away from the "rebuilding" word though) but we were going to be competitive. He also said in a interview (regarding his son Kyle) that he actually advised him to stay in Houston because it was a better situation.


It's not hard to understand what this man is saying. He's saying it's a team full of garbage talent and it's going to take time to replace it. Guess what? Nothing has changed. It's STILL going to take time.

If you look back at the latest WP article regarding the whole Danny/Vinny/Shanny/Zorn fiasco, you also see that the source (aka..vinny) specifically said that Shanny told Danny boy that even if he did take over the team mid-season, it still wouldn't change the results. He's saying YOU GOT A SHITTY TEAM.

Learn to read coach speak.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=PFunk26;853992]Today is the first Skins game in a looooong time I slept through most of it and im glad I did[/quote]

i shook george clinton's hand back in 94 or somewhere around there. by far they hardest most calloused hand i had ever touched. really let you know you were touching the hand of a man who gave it all and gave his all for a very long time to the funk . .he gave it up every night. played for a good 6 hours at the warner theater down in DC. they just kept rotating people on and off the stage . . they didnt stop making noise all night, really really awesome. much better seeing them in their natural environment than some cheese payday show like lolapalooza or something like that.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=NC_Skins;854009]Yes we are. You have to read between the lines. When Shanny first took over this team, he flat out said it was going to take some time (stayed away from the "rebuilding" word though) but we were going to be competitive. He also said in a interview (regarding his son Kyle) that he actually advised him to stay in Houston because it was a better situation.

It's not hard to understand what this man is saying. He's saying it's a team full of garbage talent and it's going to take time to replace it. Guess what? Nothing has changed. It's STILL going to take time.

If you look back at the latest WP article regarding the whole Danny/Vinny/Shanny/Zorn fiasco, you also see that the source (aka..vinny) specifically said that Shanny told Danny boy that even if he did take over the team mid-season, it still wouldn't change the results. He's saying YOU GOT A SHITTY TEAM.

Learn to read coach speak.[/quote]

So what if this was a shitty team, he hasn't done much about it because I don't see an ounce of change on this team. Our offense still sucks, our defense is somewhat okay, we still have a problem at QB, and we play with no desire.

Like I said, I didn't expect a winning team, but I also didn't expect Jim-Zorn-circa-the-swinging-gate-play type of team.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

I've been Kyle's biggest defender the last few weeks, but the playcalling was absolutely horrible today. Couple that with terrible WR and Oline play John "I Telegraph My Passes" Beck was not going to succeed.

For the defensive side, being on the field for that long against a prolific offense, I think they did well.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

the last 10 years we have had 4 top ten draft picks. . .i think.

safety, corner, safety, offensive tackle . . .yay.

oh yeah . . .trade out.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=hooskins;854018]I've been Kyle's biggest defender the last few weeks, but the playcalling was absolutely horrible today. Couple that with terrible WR and Oline play John "I Telegraph My Passes" Beck was not going to succeed.

For the defensive side, being on the field for that long against a prolific offense, I think they did well.[/quote]

when the bills are considered a "prolific offense" you know it aint the 2000s anymore.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=Ruhskins;854014]So what if this was a shitty team, he hasn't done much about it because I don't see an ounce of change on this team. Our offense still sucks, our defense is somewhat okay, we still have a problem at QB, and we play with no desire.

Like I said, I didn't expect a winning team, but I also didn't expect Jim-Zorn-circa-the-swinging-gate-play type of team.[/quote]

NEWSFLASH: We are 3-3. Not, 0-6.

Ok, you had the restricted Free Agency off-season his first year and he was handcuffed with what he could do. (tried for Vincent Jackson but a no go) Sure he made a mistake with McNabb, but he also drafted a key part to the OL.

Second year during off-season is the lockout. He bolstered the defense considerable through the draft and free agency.

No QBs were on the market, and obviously none in the draft he deemed worthy of selecting at the spot we were at. (many teams reached) He turned the few picks we had into a masterful draft (even if they don't all pan out).


You can't turn shit into sugar my friend. Give the guy time and a chance to get more players in here with value.


Also, we've been hit hard with injuries, and our depth just isn't cutting it right now.

Re: Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

[quote=Ruhskins;854014]So what if this was a shitty team, he hasn't done much about it because I don't see an ounce of change on this team. Our offense still sucks, our defense is somewhat okay, we still have a problem at QB, and we play with no desire.

Like I said, I didn't expect a winning team, [B]but I also didn't expect Jim-Zorn-circa-the-swinging-gate-play type of team.[/B] [/quote]

We haven't seen that yet. And if the defense is "somewhat okay" then that would be your upgrade considering last season's D.

It wasn't possible to address every single need. This year the focus was defense.

How about this -- instead of taking a dump on each and every coach that comes to town, how about the players step up for once? Did anyone catch the graphic about all of the coaches after their first 22 games in Washington? It doesn't seem to matter if you have a legend for a head coach, a bad head coach, or a pathetic, clueless head coach -- the results are always the same with this organization. So when your trying to figure out what's wrong with a team, isn't it EVER justifiable to look at the players?