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[quote=Defensewins;824786]Insane crazy. I was in DC, Baltimore and New York last week and listened to sports radio (the Fan) in each city. It is freaking insane how the fans are going nuts based on how their teams are playing in the preseason. Dumb.
The winning teams use preseason the way it is supposed to be used, to take a really good look at all of the scrubs in order to fill out the bottom half roster correctly. Plus they do not run any of their bread and butter plays on offense and defense. So the winning teams usually lose most of the preseason games.
While the bad teams feel like they have something to prove and really try hard to win them all. They play their starters longer and thus against the other teams scrubs, so they have a false sense of improvement. [B]Kind of like last week where we played our starters the entire first half and the Steelers starters only played the first series or two. [/B]
Once the regular season starts, it will be completely diffrent level of play. Similar to the rise in play when the playoffs start.[/quote]

Our starters were not played for a longer period than the Steelers for some.....BS false sense of security. The Skins have made wholesale changes over much of the team with many occurring in the projected starting ranks. There is much to be seen and just trying to get them some semi-legit game time playing together for familiarity sake.
The Steelers on the other hand made few changes to their projected starting line-up and much less to be gained by playing their starters longer.

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Dang, I missed the game. I cut on NFL Network and ESPN and saw no games so I figure none on. Late I switched over to FOX to see the game was just about over. I'm not missing the game tonight and that's all that matters.

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The final score doesn't matter in preseason. But performance of the players does. If Trent Williams was getting blown up by some 2nd stringer or Rex Grossman somehow couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, then one should be concerned.

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You have to keep everything in perspective. It was preseason and yes some teams only keep their starters out for 1 or 2 series, but I'm actually happy MS did what he did keeping the 1st string out so long. There was no OTA or no formal ones so by keeping them out MS was not only able to judge their performance but they were able to try and work on playing as a unit and were able to learn the blocking better. What I would have hoped to see is this week the starters staying out again for a whole half, then in preseason wk3 they could stay out for 3 quarters. Then the last game the starters could play 1 or 2 series and then evaluate all the newbies for the rest of the game. This would build cohesiveness and their endurance for the first game

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I still think the eagles will be really good this year, and that we will beat them

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[quote=CultBrennan59;824794]I still think the eagles will be really good this year, and that we will beat them[/quote]

Agreed.

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[quote=Hog1;824788]Our starters were not played for a longer period than the Steelers for some.....BS false sense of security. The Skins have made wholesale changes over much of the team with many occurring in the projected starting ranks. There is much to be seen and just trying to get them some semi-legit game time playing together for familiarity sake.
The Steelers on the other hand made few changes to their projected starting line-up and much less to be gained by playing their starters longer.[/quote]

I never said the Redskins played their starters longer to create that illusion. I just gave that as an example where one team plays its starters much longer than the other team and the Redskins fans went nuts on the radio Monday talking about how great we are now. It happens every year.

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[quote=Mattyk;824778]Of course there may be [I]some[/I] concern on part of the Eagles, it's just silly how crazy people get over this preseason stuff.[/quote]

Exactly. So many people all jacked up over the Skins solid 1st half against mostly Steeler backups, people thinking the sky is falling in Philly because of last night... It's all so dumb. Yeah Philly looked like crap last night, but they looked pretty darn good last week, and they'll probably look pretty good next week. Who cares?

I'll remind everyone again that the Lions had a 4-0 preseason the year they went 0-16 in the regular season.

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And I'm sure if we come out tonight and tee off on Curtis freaking Painter we'll have Skins fans in droves predicting a 12 win season.

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[quote=GMScud;824799]Exactly. So many people all jacked up over the Skins solid 1st half against mostly Steeler backups, people thinking the sky is falling in Philly because of last night... It's all so dumb. Yeah Philly looked like crap last night, but they looked pretty darn good last week, and they'll probably look pretty good next week. Who cares?

I'll remind everyone again that the Lions had a 4-0 preseason the year they went 0-16 in the regular season.[/quote]

That Lions preseason had three games in which they faced their fellow bottom-dwellers that season: Bungles, Bills, Browns. The Giants were their only quality competition, and they barely squeezed that one out.

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[quote=Hog1;824788]Our starters were not played for a longer period than the Steelers for some.....BS false sense of security. The Skins have made wholesale changes over much of the team with many occurring in the projected starting ranks. There is much to be seen and just trying to get them some semi-legit game time playing together for familiarity sake.
The Steelers on the other hand made few changes to their projected starting line-up and much less to be gained by playing their starters longer.[/quote]

What I took from our first games was our starters played better then theirs and then our 2nd and 3rd teamers, etc... out palyed them as well. If they do the same tonight then its starting to tell me we are well coached across the board and moving in the right direction.

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[quote=GMScud;824801]And I'm sure if we come out tonight and tee off on Curtis freaking Painter we'll have Skins fans in droves predicting a 12 win season.[/quote]

Yeah, people need to realize that the Colts really don't try that much during preseason. I take more out of that one series against the Pittsburgh first-teamers than anything we do against the Colts tonight. Although, I would like to see the Skins do well.

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[quote=Defensewins;824798]I never said the Redskins played their starters longer to create that illusion. I just gave that as an example where one team plays its starters much longer than the other team and the Redskins fans went nuts on the radio Monday talking about how great we are now. It happens every year.[/quote]

[B]"While the bad teams feel like they have something to prove and really try hard to win them all. They play their starters longer and thus against the other teams scrubs, so they have a false sense of improvement. Kind of like last week where we played our starters the entire first half and the Steelers starters only played the first series or two". [/B]
.........HTTR

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[quote=Hog1;824823][B]"While the bad teams feel like they have something to prove and really try hard to win them all. They play their starters longer and thus against the other teams scrubs, so they have a false sense of improvement. Kind of like last week where we played our starters the entire first half and the Steelers starters only played the first series or two". [/B]
.........HTTR[/quote]

I don't think it's about trying to prove any point. The Steelers have essentially the exact same team together this year that won the AFC last year. No need to leave starters in the game very long, especially in preseason game 1.

For the Skins, we have so many new, young faces, we need to leave guys out there to see what they've got. The Steelers don't need that sort of live game action evaluation like we do.

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[quote=GMScud;824824]I don't think it's about trying to prove any point. The Steelers have essentially the exact same team together this year that won the AFC last year. No need to leave starters in the game very long, especially in preseason game 1.

For the Skins, we have so many new, young faces, we need to leave guys out there to see what they've got. The Steelers don't need that sort of live game action evaluation like we do.[/quote]

Totally agree...see post # 41

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[quote=GMScud;824824]I don't think it's about trying to prove any point. The Steelers have essentially the exact same team together this year that won the AFC last year. No need to leave starters in the game very long, especially in preseason game 1.

For the Skins, we have so many new, young faces, we need to leave guys out there to see what they've got. The Steelers don't need that sort of live game action evaluation like we do.[/quote]

Exactly.

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[quote=GMScud;824801]And I'm sure if we come out tonight and tee off on Curtis freaking Painter we'll have Skins fans in droves predicting a 12 win season.[/quote]

absolutely right, it must be pretty much the same thing every year because we're excited to have football again, and maybe this year with all the offseason drama and changes in the team people are going even more crazy

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Tonight's the night Redskins Nation wakes up to the awesomeness that is Kellen Clemens.

But really though, I think we're going to win by two TDs tonight...and it won't really mean a thing

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[quote=SmootSmack;824829]Tonight's the night Redskins Nation wakes up to the awesomeness that is Kellen Clemens.

But really though, I think we're going to win by two TDs tonight...and it won't really mean a thing[/quote]

Ben Chappell dammit...he didn't have a single incomplete pass last week.

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[quote=SmootSmack;824829]Tonight's the night Redskins Nation wakes up to the awesomeness that is Kellen Clemens.

But really though, I think we're going to win by two TDs tonight...and it won't really mean a thing[/quote]The Colts, right? Make it three.

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colts r 4-24 in the past 7 preseasons. Just saying skins fans.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;824848]colts r 4-24 in the past 7 preseasons. Just saying skins fans.[/quote]

I believe a certain Manning fellow is the reason why. He doesn't need much preseason time.

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Also goes to show how far Manning carries them.

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Colt Mccoy is ballin so far

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Bartel Ballin'

Ryan Williams out for the year. Thats tough

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;824791]The final score doesn't matter in preseason.[B] But performance of the players does.[/B] If Trent Williams was getting blown up by some 2nd stringer or Rex Grossman somehow couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, then one should be concerned.[/quote]

Exactly. When I see our players, especially the younger guys, winning their one on one battles and putting forth an effort that shows they give a s**t it gives me hope. I'm seeing some hustle out there and I LIKE it!

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[quote=SmootSmack;825218]Ryan Williams out for the year. Thats tough[/quote]

Bet you they wish they had Hightower back; maybe we trade them Torain..?

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two words. dream team. or 3 ints. or fail ure.
you choose.

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you know who just lost their RB for the season and now needs to find another one?

arizona.

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Lions look legit

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[quote=SmootSmack;825218]Ryan Williams out for the year. Thats tough[/quote]

Ouch. I was looking forward to seeing what he would do this year. Looks like Arizona is in need, and since we do have excess backs *coughToraincough* who knows what might happen? No way we give them Hightower or Helu, I don't want to see Royster go either but you never know.

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[quote=mooby;825257]Ouch. I was looking forward to seeing what he would do this year. Looks like Arizona is in need, and since we do have excess backs *coughToraincough* who knows what might happen? No way we give them Hightower or Helu, I don't want to see Royster go either but you never know.[/quote]

torrain for a 4th round pick!

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[quote=That Guy;825305]torrain for a 4th round pick![/quote]

Hell yeah I'd give them that trade. They'd ask for a 5th or 6th though.

What did we give up for hightower again? Vonnie Holiday (and a 4th) right?

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Alex Smith threw one of the worst interceptions Ive ever seen. Glad we got becks and rex

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[quote=SmootSmack;825204]Bartel Ballin'[/quote]

Rich Bartel tore up the Packers. We should've kept him.

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Chase Daniel played pretty well for the saints

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[quote=CultBrennan59;825316]Hell yeah I'd give them that trade. They'd ask for a 5th or 6th though.

What did we give up for hightower again? Vonnie Holiday [B](and a 4th) right?[/B][/quote]

"Undisclosed" late round pick. I think a 5th.

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This is a disgrace.....would have to be a raiders fan by the article...
[url=http://news.yahoo.com/2-shot-sf-parking-lot-raiders-49ers-game-051427889.html]2 shot in SF parking lot after Raiders-49ers game - Yahoo! News[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;825218]Ryan Williams out for the year. Thats tough[/quote]

Not ballin.