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The raiders are not loaded at WR lmao

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[quote=skinsfaninok;819723]The raiders are not loaded at WR lmao[/quote]

Maybe if you're looking for a bunch of midlevel guys in your Madden franchise to turn into pro bowlers but I don't like that corps in real life. Well maybe like, but certainly not love and even then I'm not about to pin the success of any team on a receiving corps outside of Arizona circa 2008.

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Yeah I mean who does Oakland have that's any good at WR? Ford is a special teamer so far and the other guys have done nothing

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Lesson here: people think all young players haven't done anything.

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I'll try to put it another way. I like Ford, Murphy, Schilens, DHB, Moore a lot more than I like Roddy White, Julio Jones, Harry Douglas, Eric Weems. I don't think it's even close.

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Wow Tripp you've lost me

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[quote=skinsfaninok;819736]Wow Tripp you've lost me[/quote]Sorry. I'll keep it to single paragraph posts next time. For you.

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[quote=GTripp0012;819712]God the Raiders are just totally loaded at the wide receiver position. I'm almost certain they're going to find a way to make the playoffs. There's just no spot for them in my projections: the Chargers win the West, the Ravens and the Steelers play fictitiously easy schedules this year (as do the far less talented Browns), and [B]the system really likes the Texans defense (seriously). [/B]So that's six playoff teams right there. I just think the Raiders are loaded.[/quote]

Do you and jsarno run Vegas like Clooney and Pitt?

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[quote=SmootSmack;819740]Do you and jsarno run Vegas like Clooney and Pitt?[/quote]

Nah thats me and Quake or Quake and me or wait Quake and I.

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[quote=SmootSmack;819740]Do you and jsarno run Vegas like Clooney and Pitt?[/quote]Ha. Not exactly, but we run Oakland like Pitt and Jonah Hill.

I still think the Texans are going to screw it up in the end. Sixteen games is a long time for Gary Kubiak and Wade Phillips to not make a franchise killing decision. They just look really good on paper in September, better than they ever have before, perhaps.

But the Jets look weaker than I've seen them in awhile, and that opens up a pretty big spot in the AFC for a surprise team to grab. Weakest AFC schedules: Steelers, Ravens, Raiders, Chargers, Browns.

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[quote=GTripp0012;819732]I'll try to put it another way. I like Ford, Murphy, Schilens, DHB, Moore a lot more than I like Roddy White, Julio Jones, Harry Douglas, Eric Weems. I don't think it's even close.[/quote]

Soooo, if you're not being totally sarcastic, I guess this makes it okay that they let Zach Miller get away?

I think Roddy White/Julio Jones will be a formidable 1-2 for several years.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;819743]Nah thats me and Quake or Quake and me or wait Quake and I.[/quote]

Bag of Quake, Quaker-Bag, Dirt-Quake, Dirt cheap, Quaker Instant Oatmeal. Yeah I'm done.

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[quote=GMScud;819746]Soooo, if you're not being totally sarcastic, I guess this makes it okay that they let Zach Miller get away?

I think Roddy White/Julio Jones will be a formidable 1-2 for several years.[/quote]Well, they're not exactly loaded at tight end. Losing Miller is a big one. For Campbell in particular.

It's just not going to be difficult at all for them to get open receivers running downfield. Only ? will be the protection.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;819747]Bag of Quake, Quaker-Bag, Dirt-Quake, Dirt cheap, Quaker Instant Oatmeal. Yeah I'm done.[/quote]

See we would be coming up with plans to run Vegas but we spend to much time on crap like this.

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who recognizes Oakland potential ability to be at least a sleeper. Their offense certain has weapons. At least one firmly established, and a bunch of guys with potential.

Jacoby Ford is not "just a special teamer". Unlike someone like Brandon Banks, catching difficult balls, tapping the toes before going out of bounds, and adjusting while the ball is in flight is not foreign to him. His game against the Chiefs alone is a excellent showcase of his skills at WR. And his ability to "steal interceptions" also came in handy against the Dolphins.

Those who have the Chargers pegged as a "locked" as a division winner are bound to have another wake-up call. Despite having plenty of sacks as a team, they only had ONE 10+ sack player.
Not to mention Norval is always giving some "chokeritis" to that team.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;819760]I'm glad I'm not the only one who recognizes Oakland potential ability to be at least a sleeper. Their offense certain has weapons. At least one firmly established, and a bunch of guys with potential.

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Oh theres plenty of sleepers. However much less in the AFC where the top 6 have been established for the last few years. However you look at Tenneessee who maybe gets the old Matt Hasselbeck, or maybe Houston gets their defense on track and makes a run at the South. Kansas City is coming off a playoff year. Jacksonville is always tough and scrappy. However that top 6 in the AFC doesn't seem likely to budge without a major injury or two.

NFC theres much more wiggle room at the bottom. Skins aside I could easily see New York, Dallas, Tampa, Seattle, and Chicago all making the playoffs among the teams I didn't list. However I like the Lions to get all their crap together.

One things for sure though, there will be surprises. I just hope that Beck and the Skins in general are one of them.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;819761]Oh theres plenty of sleepers. However much less in the AFC where the top 6 have been established for the last few years. However you look at Tenneessee who maybe gets the old Matt Hasselbeck, or maybe Houston gets their defense on track and makes a run at the South. Kansas City is coming off a playoff year. Jacksonville is always tough and scrappy. However that top 6 in the AFC doesn't seem likely to budge without a major injury or two.

NFC theres much more wiggle room at the bottom. Skins aside I could easily see New York, Dallas, Tampa, Seattle, and Chicago all making the playoffs among the teams I didn't list. However I like the Lions to get all their crap together.

One things for sure though, there will be surprises. I just hope that Beck and the Skins in general are one of them.[/quote]

You're assuming "Oakland for the wildcard". The thing is, the AFC West is wide open between the Chargers, Chiefs, and Raiders, and there is nothing I see that automatically stops the Raiders from winning it. The Raiders outright crushed their in-division opponents last season, but didn't manage well outside of their division. The Chargers usually have been flaky, starting off poorly and then getting hot late. That the Chiefs and Raiders sucked then helped the Chargers, but now, they don't have such soft competition anymore.

While they have lost Nnamdi, their offense is young and bound to improve this season. DMac is easily recognizeable as a monster, but I say their O is criminally underrated. Marcel Reece is NOT just a blocking FB, he can catch since he's a converted WR and his abilities were employed by Hue Jackson in a couple games last season.

Al Davis has brought in a bunch of Olinemen through the draft a FA. Unless they all are duds, their O-line is going to improve some.

I've already gone over Ford. Louis Murphy is pretty consistent.

As for the D, I will point out that a stud MLB can make up for some deficiencies, and Rolondo McClain is certainly on his merry.

And the Raiders special teams. I'd say that they'll be damn good. Rock knows how to manage return coverage and Jacoby Ford is a deadly returner. Even with Ford's injury, that team has so many athletes that getting field position shouldn't be too difficult.

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[quote=GTripp0012;819712]God the Raiders are just totally loaded at the wide receiver position. I'm almost certain they're going to find a way to make the playoffs. [/quote]

The problem is, they have a QB who is a check-down king so good WRs isn't going to change his game or deep ball accuracy (or lack thereof). Also, the Raiders are notorious for finding ways of not making the playoffs which will par for the course with their new coach

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[quote=NC_Skins;819771]The problem is, they have a QB who is a check-down king so good WRs isn't going to change his game or deep ball accuracy (or lack thereof). Also, the Raiders are notorious for finding ways of not making the playoffs which will par for the course with their new coach[/quote]

One of the guys that I'm very curious to see numbers in the new rating system. Still, has to be a Bia to put all that together. For the standard QB rating you just have to enter 5 numbers. These guys at ESPN are going to, if they're lucky, enter in 20 or 30 different numbers for one rating.

Re: 2011 Playoff Projections
 

[quote=NC_Skins;819771]The problem is, they have a QB who is a check-down king so good WRs isn't going to change his game or deep ball accuracy (or lack thereof). Also, the Raiders are notorious for finding ways of not making the playoffs which will par for the course with their new coach[/quote]People have been predicting this for years, but the next time it comes true will be the first.

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Too soon

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[quote=Dirtbag59;819750]See we would be coming up with plans to run Vegas but we spend to much time on crap like this.[/quote]

Like the Redskins, not living up to our potential.

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[quote=SmootSmack;819546]Yeah, I think I'll wait until we've seen at least a couple of weeks of preseason games before making any sort of predictions[/quote]
...and rosters are actually settled.

The FA moves still aren't over yet.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;819637]And HERE WE GOOOOOOO

1. Sheagles
2. Lions
3. Bucs
4. Lambs
5. Packers
6. Chicago

1. Pittsburgh
2. Jets
3. Oakland
4. Texans
5. Colts
6. Cleveland[/quote]

Bump for some retrospective thoughts.

Oh, and Tripp deserves some props about the Raidah's receivers.

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Midseason Projections

NFC
1. Packers
2. 49ers
3. Saints
4. Giants
5. Lions
6. Bears

AFC
1. Ravens
2. Texans
3. Jets
4. Raiders
5. Patriots
6. Steelers