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Ruhskins 02-15-2011 04:00 PM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;784631]No QBs at all Yuck. I forget Rex is a FA[/quote]

Yeah, you know your FA QBs suck when Gradkowski is the best option.

skinsfaninok 02-15-2011 04:01 PM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
[quote=Ruhskins;784635]Yeah, you know your FA QBs suck when Gradkowski is the best option.[/quote]

Btw how is he higher than Rex? Grad never even plays

mredskins 02-15-2011 04:06 PM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
i can't get excited about free agency until the labor issue is resolved, otherwise FA talk is useless.

skinsfaninok 02-15-2011 04:07 PM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
[quote=mredskins;784642]i can't get excited about free agency until the labor issue is resolved, otherwise FA talk is useless.[/quote]

It will get done later than sooner

mooby 02-15-2011 04:14 PM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
[quote=DCtoAZ;784630]I really think Franchising Carlos Rogers #22 is a good move .. although he is frustrating as hell dropping balls left and right .. he is a damn good DB and the future of Rogers/Hall/Landry .. throwing in a little Kevin Barnes .. is bright .. don't let Carlos go, mark my words wherever he goes he will be a Pro Bowl DB[/quote]

I agree except on the "he'll be a pro bowler" bit. I like him a lot more than everybody else does but he'll never be a Pro Bowler unless he learns how to catch.

GTripp0012 02-15-2011 04:22 PM

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I can't imagine that either Rex Grossman or Bruce Gradkowski is one of the ten best quarterbacks with expiring contracts. There's a lot of better players out there.

Paintrain 02-15-2011 04:35 PM

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[quote=DCtoAZ;784630]I really think Franchising Carlos Rogers #22 is a good move .. although he is frustrating as hell dropping balls left and right .. he is a damn good DB and the future of Rogers/Hall/Landry .. throwing in a little Kevin Barnes .. is bright .. don't let Carlos go, mark my words wherever he goes he will be a Pro Bowl DB[/quote]

You must mean he'll be buying a ticket to Hawaii to attend the Pro Bowl, right? He's barely average. If we franchise him that would be dumber than Haynesworthless.

SmootSmack 02-15-2011 05:04 PM

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Ngata tagged

SmootSmack 02-15-2011 05:05 PM

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;784568]Is it me or do we never tag any of our players ?[/quote]

Sean Gilbert?

diehardskin2982 02-15-2011 05:10 PM

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We should go after Brandon Mebane of the Seahawks

freddyg12 02-15-2011 05:17 PM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
[quote=SmootSmack;784655]Sean Gilbert?[/quote]

pre-Danny if so.

SmootSmack 02-15-2011 05:23 PM

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Peyton Manning tagged

skinsfaninok 02-15-2011 06:14 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;784661]Peyton Manning tagged[/quote]

Whats he make this yr (if there is one)? 20M?

GTripp0012 02-15-2011 06:20 PM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
23 or 24 I think.

skinsfaninok 02-15-2011 06:27 PM

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81e523e6/article/chargers-place-franchise-tag-on-disgruntled-wr-jackson?module=HP_headlines]NFL.com news: Chargers place franchise tag on disgruntled WR Jackson[/url]

I guess VJAX just want's out once and for all

Dread-Skin 02-15-2011 07:56 PM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
[quote=DCtoAZ;784630]I really think Franchising Carlos Rogers #22 is a good move .. although he is frustrating as hell dropping balls left and right .. he is a damn good DB and the future of Rogers/Hall/Landry .. throwing in a little Kevin Barnes .. is bright .. don't let Carlos go, mark my words wherever he goes he will be a Pro Bowl DB[/quote]

Is Oak's Nhamdi off the market? Wouldn't he be worth the same money and pairing him with Hall? But speaking of brickhands Los Rogers... He has been durable and is tackle capable, I really want him to make finally have luck make up with him- top CB in college and utter shame for hands in NFL, still he is Skins player and would like him back.

[quote=skinsfaninok;784618]Yeah Barber looks done and I think [B]Choice is a solid[/B] player, can Felix carry the load? I dont think so. I heard they will pursue Michael Bush also.. This was on ESPN Dallas[/quote]

[quote=skinsfaninok;784536]I would have liked Rice[/quote]

Rice was top choice IMO. There are other FA out there for less.

[quote=CRedskinsRule;784513]Do we even have anyone who is worth considering using a franchise or transition tag on?[/quote]

No, sadly it seems we just sign FA contracts worth in the same ballpark without the talent to show for it.

SBXVII 02-16-2011 07:03 AM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;784667][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81e523e6/article/chargers-place-franchise-tag-on-disgruntled-wr-jackson?module=HP_headlines]NFL.com news: Chargers place franchise tag on disgruntled WR Jackson[/url]

I guess VJAX just want's out once and for all[/quote]

LOL, he's got to be PISSSSSED! All he wanted was a contract that payed him for his worth like the other 4 players who held out last year but hey refused to do it. Now they franchise him? Is he going to get top 5 pay? If so he can't complain but if not he's got to be livid figuring he would be a FA this year and free to go anywhere else.

MTK 02-16-2011 08:15 AM

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The tags could mean nothing in 2 weeks

Jontrem 02-16-2011 08:54 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;784692]LOL, he's got to be PISSSSSED! All he wanted was a contract that payed him for his worth like the other 4 players who held out last year but hey refused to do it. Now they franchise him? Is he going to get top 5 pay? If so he can't complain but if not he's got to be livid figuring he would be a FA this year and free to go anywhere else.[/quote]

A.J. Smith is one vindictive bastard. The environment of unease and mistrust that he has fostered out in San Diego has got to be one of the major reasons why the Charges can't get it done. They have all the talent a team could wish for but petty stuff like this keeps biting in their collective arses.

SkinzWin 02-16-2011 11:09 AM

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Maybe he should just pull a Haynesworth and punch someone in the face to try and get cut by the Chargers.

diehardskin2982 02-16-2011 01:38 PM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
Pick up Brandon Mebane and marcus stoud. Then I would accept that dude from the browns

Ruhskins 02-16-2011 01:44 PM

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[quote=diehardskin2982;784787]Pick up Brandon Mebane and [B]marcus stoud[/B]. Then I would accept that dude from the browns[/quote]

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6128183]Buffalo Bills free up salary space, cut ties with Marcus Stroud - ESPN[/url]

"Stroud's departure was not considered a surprise after the 10-year NFL veteran [B]struggled in making the transition in Buffalo's switch to a 3-4 defensive scheme[/B]."

"[B]He showed up to training camp in July leaner in preparing to make the switch from defensive tackle to end in the Bills' new scheme. However, he struggled along with an entire defense that finished 24th in the NFL in yards allowed [/B]and last in yards rushing. The Bills finished 4-12 and opened the season losing their first eight games."

Like I said, we would benefit from players with 3-4 experience.

freddyg12 02-16-2011 03:11 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;784792][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6128183"]Buffalo Bills free up salary space, cut ties with Marcus Stroud - ESPN[/URL]

"Stroud's departure was not considered a surprise after the 10-year NFL veteran [B]struggled in making the transition in Buffalo's switch to a 3-4 defensive scheme[/B]."

"[B]He showed up to training camp in July leaner in preparing to make the switch from defensive tackle to end in the Bills' new scheme. However, he struggled along with an entire defense that finished 24th in the NFL in yards allowed [/B]and last in yards rushing. The Bills finished 4-12 and opened the season losing their first eight games."

Like I said, we would benefit from players with 3-4 experience.[/quote]

Stroud was great in his days at J'ville, but not so much now.

NC_Skins 02-16-2011 03:25 PM

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Raiders again showing the rest of the world why they are a bunch of clueless idiots.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6127980]Source: Richard Seymour, Oakland Raiders agree to extension - ESPN[/url]


[quote]SI.com first reported Seymour's extension. The website said that Seymour's contract is potentially worth $30 million and contains $22.5 million guaranteed.[/quote]


Two years... 30 mil? For Seymour? Really? Really?


/facepalm

skinsfaninok 02-16-2011 03:29 PM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
[quote=NC_Skins;784802]Raiders again showing the rest of the world why they are a bunch of clueless idiots.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6127980]Source: Richard Seymour, Oakland Raiders agree to extension - ESPN[/url]





Two years... 30 mil? For Seymour? Really? Really?


/facepalm[/quote]



15M a year?? Wow

SirClintonPortis 02-16-2011 04:23 PM

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At least it's only two years.

Dirtbag59 02-16-2011 04:50 PM

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I think Davis is just the NFL Owner version of a troll. No longer has a desire to win so he decides to skew the payscale for certain positions. He was probably watching the Revis saga last year with a bowl of popcorn and a coke laughing his but off.

Ruhskins 02-16-2011 05:28 PM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
[quote=NC_Skins;784802]Raiders again showing the rest of the world why they are a bunch of clueless idiots.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6127980]Source: Richard Seymour, Oakland Raiders agree to extension - ESPN[/url]

Two years... 30 mil? For Seymour? Really? Really?


/facepalm[/quote]

Well, they gave up a first rounder, might as well keep him and play him.

skinsfaninok 02-16-2011 09:15 PM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
Cromartie will become a FA

Hog1 02-16-2011 09:48 PM

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It will be interesting to see the $$$ he gets.....

skinsfaninok 02-16-2011 11:15 PM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
Well fellow skins fans, if cromartie hits the market would you consider making a push for him over Rogers? If the $ was right I would

NC_Skins 02-17-2011 08:11 AM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;784847]Well fellow skins fans, if cromartie hits the market would you consider making a push for him over Rogers? If the $ was right I would[/quote]


He's got 7 kids to support. The contract will be large...lol

MonkFan4Life 02-17-2011 08:27 AM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
I thought he was up to 10.

mredskins 02-17-2011 08:33 AM

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I take Carlos over Cromartie.

MTK 02-17-2011 08:36 AM

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Cromartie brings a lot baggage, and not just for his Brady Bunch family. Honestly I would keep Rogers over him.

Terpfan76 02-17-2011 08:38 AM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
I seem to recall that if a team placed the franchise tag on a player, there was a potential situation in which said team would not be able to use the franchise tag again until the franchised player's "new" contract expired. I really can't remember the details, but it seems to me that if you franchise a player and then sign him to a contract, you can't use the tag on another player until said contract expired. I may be totally off base with this, but I can't remember. Getting old sucks lol...

NC_Skins 02-17-2011 08:49 AM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
[quote=Terpfan76;784889]I seem to recall that if a team placed the franchise tag on a player, there was a potential situation in which said team would not be able to use the franchise tag again until the franchised player's "new" contract expired. I really can't remember the details, but it seems to me that if you franchise a player and then sign him to a contract, you can't use the tag on another player until said contract expired. I may be totally off base with this, but I can't remember. Getting old sucks lol...[/quote]

The way it worked (as far as I recall) is that they have a deadline to get a long term deal done by, which the franchise tag could be used again next year. If they work out a long term deal after that deadline, the franchise tag would apply to the length of the contract.

Most teams that don't get the deal done by that deadline, just have him sign the one year contract and get the deal done after the following season or use the franchise tag again.

This is my recollection on how it works.

Jontrem 02-17-2011 09:51 AM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
[quote=MonkFan4Life;784885]I thought he was up to 10.[/quote]

I think it is 7 that he knows the names of off the top of his head!

Terpfan76 02-17-2011 10:26 AM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
[quote=NC_Skins;784892]The way it worked (as far as I recall) is that they have a deadline to get a long term deal done by, which the franchise tag could be used again next year. If they work out a long term deal after that deadline, the franchise tag would apply to the length of the contract.

Most teams that don't get the deal done by that deadline, just have him sign the one year contract and get the deal done after the following season or use the franchise tag again.

This is my recollection on how it works.[/quote]

Thanks. I was afraid I was losing my mind lol...

Monkeydad 02-17-2011 12:05 PM

Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011
 
Before this year, I'd take a chance on Cromartie. However, this year, the guy went bat crazy like Mariah Carey on us.

Good player. Just stay away though.


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