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Mark my words as far as the draft goes the skins will draft someone to compliment Devin Thomas's ablility

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[quote=pg86;635613]Mark my words as far as the draft goes the skins will draft someone to compliment Devin Thomas's ablility[/quote]

Yes, a franchise tackle will compliment Devin Thoma very well.

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Kicker has to be replaced

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I think I got what I wanted out of today's game. Enough of a fight to make sure we're totally not deflated going into next year, but a loss that will help insure that Vinny gets thrown out and at the same time a team good enough that quality coaching candidates will consider coaching the team. A high draft position is also a nice plus.

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Not so much a smackdown but the timing of AH's injury at the end was awful because we had to use a timeout there and we stopped the clock when the Saints couldn't have

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[quote=Ruhskins;635616]Yes, a franchise tackle will compliment Devin Thoma very well.[/quote]
I agree...you build on the O line pick up a kid out the draft as far as the QB position goes I think we hang on to Campbell and Brenan. Thomas and Kelly are gonna be great! 2010 looks promising for this team...I could be wrong but I keep the bingo caller on as a O.C. too. But as far as QB goes maybe not a Sam Bradford or Tim Tebow but possibly a Tony Pike, or maybe that guy from Texas...lol Give Jason some real competition at camp

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[quote=pg86;635629]I agree...you build on the O line pick up a kid out the draft as far as the QB position goes I think we hang on to Campbell and Brenan. Thomas and Kelly are gonna be great! 2010 looks promising for this team...I could be wrong but I keep the bingo caller on as a O.C. too. But as far as QB goes maybe not a Sam Bradford or Tim Tebow but possibly a Tony Pike, or maybe that guy from Texas...lol Give Jason some real competition at camp[/quote]

It's actually looking like Marc Bulger will be available next year. I think he would be a decent stopgap if we got rid of JC. Personally though I want to see 2 offensive lineman picked with our top 3 picks (1,2,4).

I'm also starting to think that if we can get him then Mike Holmgren would be the best guy to coach this team. Sherman Lewis deserves to stay and bringing in Holmgren would help insure that he does. The only problem is we emasculated one of his pupils so how he responds to that will help determine weather or not he accepts a job here. Of course Vinny could easily be pointed to by Snyder as the fall guy.

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[quote=Ruhskins;635594]Negative ghostrider...we've seen how good our offense can be with a good line, and we are in desperate need of a franchise tackle. We've already used a lot of resources in the defense, and a good FO (that's the key, a good FO) should be able to find a good FS in the later rounds or free agency. However, you cannot pass up a franchise tackle like Okung.[/quote]

How about a better tackle in FA than Heyer? I think that's something we can address in FA and then go second round. With our record, I think there are maybe two players in college who would put our defense as one of the best we've seen in years.

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What we need is a guy that has the strength of Orakpo as as an O linemen

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;635639]How about a better tackle in FA than Heyer? I think that's something we can address in FA and then go second round. With our record, I think there are maybe two players in college who would put our defense as one of the best we've seen in years.[/quote]

Or or, how 'bout we draft a tackle in the first round and put him at RT just like what the Ravens did for Oher (and then move him to LT later on).

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[quote=pg86;635640]What we need is a guy that has the strength of Orakpo as as an O linemen[/quote]

The only guy with that amount of strength is Larry Allen and he's either retired or on his last legs.

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[quote=Ruhskins;635641]Or or, how 'bout we draft a tackle in the first round and put him at RT just like what the Ravens did for Oher (and then move him to LT later on).[/quote]

I wouldn't complain about that for sure, BUT after seeing Landry play like he did today (beast against the run, but not great against the pass) I'd love to see us get another safety to move him back to his natural position.

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So how are we feeling about Mike Williams at RG?

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[quote=SmootSmack;635644]So how are we feeling about Mike Williams at RG?[/quote]

I thought I remember hearing a compliment there for big Mike from the broadcasters. I think overall the line played very well.

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[quote=SmootSmack;635644]So how are we feeling about Mike Williams at RG?[/quote]

I'm all about it. Kind of like a cheap Leonard Davis.

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[quote=SmootSmack;635644]So how are we feeling about Mike Williams at RG?[/quote]

Well, it was better than I thought, I guess.. No sacks and our 3rd and 4th running backs ran well.. Therefore, he performed well..

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[quote=Dirtbag359;635635][B]It's actually looking like Marc Bulger will be available next year. I think he would be a decent stopgap if we got rid of JC.[/B] Personally though I want to see 2 offensive lineman picked with our top 3 picks (1,2,4).

I'm also starting to think that if we can get him then Mike Holmgren would be the best guy to coach this team. Sherman Lewis deserves to stay and bringing in Holmgren would help insure that he does. The only problem is we emasculated one of his pupils so how he responds to that will help determine weather or not he accepts a job here. Of course Vinny could easily be pointed to by Snyder as the fall guy.[/quote]

Or sign Bulger, keep JC, and let the better man start.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;635643]I wouldn't complain about that for sure, BUT after seeing Landry play like he did today (beast against the run, but not great against the pass) I'd love to see us get another safety to move him back to his natural position.[/quote]

If we can get an extra pick in the 2nd or early 3rd, I'd go for Nate Allen out of USF

can Rogers play FS?

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I'm not claiming to be a football expert by any means, but isn't the transition to safety easy compared to DB?

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[quote=SmootSmack;635655]If we can get an extra pick in the 2nd or early 3rd, I'd go for Nate Allen out of USF

can Rogers play FS?[/quote]
Allen will probably go in the late first round.

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[quote=SmootSmack;635644]So how are we feeling about Mike Williams at RG?[/quote]

I spoke on the warpath that I liked this move before when they did it and I really think he can become the starter at the RG position.

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[quote=RMSkins;635661]Allen will probably go in the late first round.[/quote]

I wasn't meaning take him in the first round with a top 10 pick. I think he'll be a late first/early to mid 2nd.

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[quote=SmootSmack;635665]I wasn't meaning take him in the first round with a top 10 pick. I think he'll be a late first/early to mid 2nd.[/quote]
Yeah, my bad. I misread your post and since edited mine.

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[quote=RMSkins;635667]Yeah, my bad. I misread your post and since edited mine.[/quote]

All good

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[quote=SmootSmack;635644]So how are we feeling about Mike Williams at RG?[/quote]I hope Randy Thomas has a season left in those pass blocking arms.

Big Mike at Guard offers help for our pass protecting line, but if you have him and Dock at the Guards, the zone running game is completely valueless.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;635656]I'm not claiming to be a football expert by any means, but isn't the transition to safety easy compared to DB?[/quote]

Not that easy as you think.. I played CB in my first football year but then moved over to safety at second year; it was difficult for me at first, I had to learn how to read everything.. While I was CB, all I needed to do is to cover my area or stay with the man all the way - not so difficult thing to do..

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[quote=SmootSmack;635655]If we can get an extra pick in the 2nd or early 3rd, I'd go for Nate Allen out of USF

can Rogers play FS?[/quote]Maybe Hall can?

I mean, with his ball skills, maybe he'd be most valuable playing the deep middle? Perhaps he's just out of position at corner?

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[quote=GTripp0012;635675]I hope Randy Thomas has a season left in those pass blocking arms.

Big Mike at Guard offers help for our pass protecting line, but if you have him and Dock at the Guards, the zone running game is completely valueless.[/quote]

This is true.. Which presents us another reason not to make Portis #1 next season, we will need RBs who can make quick and shifty moves.. Take the game today as an example; I remember there were like three times or so where Cartwright or Ganther could have been taken down behind the scrimmage line but thanks to their shifty moves, they managed to make defender to miss tackles before the scrimmage line..

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[quote=GTripp0012;635677]Maybe Hall can?

I mean, with his ball skills, maybe he'd be most valuable playing the deep middle? Perhaps he's just out of position at corner?[/quote]

Hmm I think that is definitely something to think about..

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[quote=GTripp0012;635677]Maybe Hall can?

I mean, with his ball skills, maybe he'd be most valuable playing the deep middle? Perhaps he's just out of position at corner?[/quote]
I don't know how comfortable I would be with Hall playing FS with his suspect tackling skills and not to mention he's only 185 lbs.

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Right now, our biggest defensive issue is that our free safety wants to lay out anything that moves. I think Hall would be an excellent coverage free safety.

Rogers and Barnes at the corners in '10.

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[quote=RMSkins;635680]I don't know how comfortable I would be with Hall playing FS with his suspect tackling skills and not to mention he's only 185 lbs.[/quote]Well, that's the flip side, but if we go back to playing the FS 25 yards off the ball, tackling ability hardly matters.

One thing I have liked about the defense without Hall is how aggressive the corner play has been. Of course, aggressive does not necessarily = better, but I miss the days when we used to be physical with receivers. Of course, a lot of that might also been because Tryon was out, so Smoot/Rogers/Westbrook pretty much have to rough up the other team's corners to be successful.

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[quote=GTripp0012;635681]Right now, our biggest defensive issue is that our free safety wants to lay out anything that moves. I think Hall would be an excellent coverage free safety.

Rogers and Barnes at the corners in '10.[/quote]
Do you think we will bring Rogers back next year?

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[quote=GTripp0012;635681]Right now, our biggest defensive issue is that our free safety wants to lay out anything that moves. I think Hall would be an excellent coverage free safety.

Rogers and Barnes at the corners in '10.[/quote]

do you really expect rogers to be back in 2010? i don't think he will.

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I think we will if we can't get a third round pick for him on the market.

Of course, I think there's plenty of teams that will be willing to pay that price. I also think it would be a bad trade, assuming resigning him to a long-term deal is still an option. If it's not, well, it's a good price for one year of Rogers.

Of course, he will be 29 next season, so by "long-term" I mean, no more than 4 years.

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Rogers (I think it was Rogers) needs to do a better job of being a blocker after Moore's INT.

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[quote=SmootSmack;635692]Rogers (I think it was Rogers) needs to do a better job of being a blocker after Moore's INT.[/quote]Him and about two other guys.

That's a play that most other teams practice though. The Redskins were pretty clearly just winging it.

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[quote=GTripp0012;635693]Him and about two other guys.

That's a play that most other teams practice though. The Redskins were pretty clearly just winging it.[/quote]

By the way, 3 TD game for your guy Quinn. You must be loving life right now

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i could have heard it wrong but on the post game on 102.1 they said something about dan chewing zorns ass? anyone hear?

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[quote=SmootSmack;635695]By the way, 3 TD game for your guy Quinn. You must be loving life right now[/quote]Bruce Gradkowski, too. Although, he's become more of a "former" GTripp draft diddy.

Looks like "my guys" will survive the NFL attrition game for at least one more offseason. Now, about that Leftwich guy...

-EDIT- Don't forget Chad Henne.