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Going to be an extremely intense week in DC.

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[quote=Hog1;597087]I would love to hear what the Dan is REALLY thinking about now....[/quote]

Do you really think he has any interest thoughts other than "hmmm, how can I throw a shit load of money at this problem in an attempt to fix it?"

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[quote=skinsfan69;597093]Just cause we spend money doesn't mean we have players. Fire the guy that's picking the players.[/quote]
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AGREED!!!! Time for Vinny to go!!!!

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fire coach z! the redskins are the laughing stock of the league this season because of coach z terrible head coaching decisions. first of all he doesn't trust portis. He didn't even get 20 touches. Unless JC is making decisions in the hurry up skins can't score. Thats all on the QB, the coach just watches like we watch. So clearly, Z's play calling doesn't work for his QB and offense. FIRE his azz immediately Synder!

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What now? Well, this is where GTripp works his magic and shows everyone that the problems weren't all Zorns and JC. He points out that certain players didn't make plays. He shows that if they work hard on correcting their mistakes then we will be fine. In other words calming everyone down by pointing out the positives instead of the negatives which causes half the board to hold on to their faith that Zorn will figure this thing out and we will make the play offs.

No offense GTripp. I like you work. :) I'll just keep praying Zorn is done sometime this yr.

If we decide to cut Zorn during the season then we need a WCO HC. If we wait....we can try to pick anyone.

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Mike Shanahan is on my speed dial if im in control here

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[quote=Coff;597112]Do you really think he has any interest thoughts other than "hmmm, how can I throw a shit load of money at this problem in an attempt to fix it?"[/quote]
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Nope, because that is how he thinks he can fix things.

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Were was our powerful D. I know they were on the field allot but our d backs can't cover no one .and we have no pressure which doesn't help the d backs,,,,Why can't we ever find Cooley in the endzone..This is one sucked to no end..It's going to be hard to leave the house..I'M STOPPING BECAUSE I COULD GO ON AND ON..

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;597111]Going to be an extremely intense week in DC.[/quote]

very intense..lot of tension..welcome to the nfl as a coach jz

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If Betts gets cut (which I hope he does) I would play Mason and Alridge a lot.

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Honestly, I'd like to hear about some players only meetings this week on both sides of the ball. We look so flat. We need a come to Jesus moment.

Gibbs talked about "fighting their guts out" all the time to the point where we would often laugh. What I wouldn't give for a team that fights its guts out right about now.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;597078]Zorn went 4 it on 4th down right? not JC Zorn declined the penalty so the lions could score right? not JC so that added 4 points to the score which would have made it a 14-15 field goal game!!! But yet it is JC's fault!!! Draft a brain!!![/quote]

Going for it on 4th is the correct call. The play call was completely obvious and uninspired, but you should go for it there. You've got to assume your defense will not give up a 99 yard drive. They are supposed to be "great" right? (Yeah right). Not declining the penalty was completely inexcusable. He should be fired for that alone.

Still, Campbell did not play well. There is absolute no timing or rhythm to his game. He is inconsistent and you cannot absolve him from the problems on this team. The thing is that he is one of many problems. (Chad Rhinehart is not an NFL player and they had to help him all day long (because he was getting beaten the whole first half until they started giving him help on every play). But Campbell played very poorly today. I think you have to come to the conclusion that he is not the long-term answer for this team.

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Just heard the locker room interview with JZ. MAN, he is FRIED. He barely made sense

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There's only so much we can blame on Zorn here -- the players apparently expected to be handed the win today...

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the sooner we make changes in the management of this team, the sooner we can start rebuilding. keeping zorn all season wont do anything, unless some miracle happens and we start clicking. this isnt working and weve known it for a while, going back to the 2nd half of last season. we havent looked good at any point in the season and this is the easiest stretch of schedule.

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[quote=GMScud;597046]Gotta agree with that. I don't think canning him right now would make us any better, but I also don't think we're going to get any better with him around either.

To me, accepting that penalty on 3rd down in the first half shows me Zorn's acumen, or lack thereof. My big toe knows enough to decline that penalty and force a 4th down.[/quote]

Zorn's excuse for accepting the penalty was that he felt they were already in FG range and he wanted to move them back ten yards. Obviously his decision backfired on him.

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;597115]~~~~~
AGREED!!!! Time for Vinny to go!!!![/quote]

Will getting rid of Vinny really make a difference? Snyder will just be replacing puppets.

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1 and 15 here we come

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[quote=pg86;597124]Mike Shanahan is on my speed dial if im in control here[/quote]

It definitely needs to be a West Coast coach we will be setting the team back farther and farther if we keep switching system now everyone is like JC if that happens which he might be a casualty because of the situation.

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It's really sad as I hear Samuels trying to spin how good the Lions really are. I kind of over the rationalizing....

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Anyone going to try and answer the original question of this thread?

HOW WOULD YOU TRY TO FIX THINGS??

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[quote=SBXVII;597121]What now? Well, this is where GTripp works his magic and shows everyone that the problems weren't all Zorns and JC. He points out that certain players didn't make plays. He shows that if they work hard on correcting their mistakes then we will be fine. In other words calming everyone down by pointing out the positives instead of the negatives which causes half the board to hold on to their faith that Zorn will figure this thing out and we will make the play offs.

No offense GTripp. I like you work. :) I'll just keep praying Zorn is done sometime this yr.

If we decide to cut Zorn during the season then we need a WCO HC. If we wait....we can try to pick anyone.[/quote]Nothing I do can critique the way that Zorn prepares a team during the week. I have no idea if that's a problem or not.

During the game, I'm not sure what Zorn could have done differently. Campbell had no protection all day, and he put the football on the ground way too many times and a lot of his throws under pressure were uncharacteristically careless. I think Zorn sort of pussed out on some 3rd and short calls in the 3rd and 4th quarter, but that's not why we lost.

The defense is awful. I have no idea what's wrong with Carlos Rogers. He's always had trouble with bigger, more physical receivers, but when was the last time he went a whole game without making a play? Smoot is awful. Hall is only good when compared to Smoot. The run defense in this game was horrific, and that will probably be the focus of the defensive game review.

Fletcher played hard, and Haynesworth was incredible, but the defensive line as a whole got it's ass kicked. I'm thinking (but will wait to confirm) that Golston is a major problem. Daniels has been terrible two out of three weeks. McIntosh may or may not have done poorly, but he didn't show up in the stat sheet at all.

Bottom line, it's easy to control the clock when you can run the ball on both first and second down and have no doubt that if the defense slows you down at all, they'll just give you an easy completion on third down.

It was our worst offensive performance of the three games this season, but it was quite possible our worst defensive performance of the last 6 years.

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Or I fire him and make Joe Bugle the head coach

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Start over now, he we suck and we know it so losing won't hurt as much if we know we will be a different team nxt year.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;597135]If Betts gets cut (which I hope he does) I would play Mason and Alridge a lot.[/quote]

You just want to cut and fire everyone don't you?

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;597141]Going for it on 4th is the correct call. The play call was completely obvious and uninspired, but you should go for it there. You've got to assume your defense will not give up a 99 yard drive. They are supposed to be "great" right? (Yeah right). Not declining the penalty was completely inexcusable. He should be fired for that alone.

Still, Campbell did not play well. There is absolute no timing or rhythm to his game. He is inconsistent and you cannot absolve him from the problems on this team. The thing is that he is one of many problems. (Chad Rhinehart is not an NFL player and they had to help him all day long (because he was getting beaten the whole first half until they started giving him help on every play). But Campbell played very poorly today. I think you have to come to the conclusion that he is not the long-term answer for this team.[/quote]

I never ever said he played great but he is not blame for the lost. Just look at the time of possession which makes the declined penalty look even worse.

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Blache is such a major problem.

The Offensive Line is really bad. Ugghhhh.

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What we really need to do is get some dynamite, and a few matches, and....

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[quote=skinsfan69;597179]You just want to cut and fire everyone don't you?[/quote]

Vinny, Blache and Betts, that's all.

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[quote=pg86;597171]Or I fire him and make Joe Bugle the head coach[/quote]

Thats exactly what I would do too! Zorn needs to go. He sucks!

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Ok lmao WHICH ONE OF YOU JUST CALLED triple X....


IT IS JIM ZORNS FAULT YOU FOOL Dan snyder is just the man who signs the checks

He is not cut out to be a head coach and you know it come on why else wouldnt they give him the Job in Seattle

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Now what? Well for starters, when does the NHL start up?

[quote=wilsowilso;597186]Blache is such a major problem.

The Offensive Line is really bad. Ugghhhh.[/quote]

What could possibly be the cause of poor O-line play? :D

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[quote=GMScud;597165]Anyone going to try and answer the original question of this thread?

HOW WOULD YOU TRY TO FIX THINGS??[/quote]Well the offensive line needs time to gel with Rinehart in at RG. He, personally, did not look bad (although, when I watch the tape, if they were covering from him right from the get go...), but there was certainly an overcompensation factor by Rabach and Heyer.

So what do you do to buy time for the offense if you can't run the ball? You either have to be strong on defense, or you lose a bunch of games to questionable teams.

Is the defense fixable? I don't know. The secondary is just awful right now. It's the worst unit on the entire team. The receivers have passed them.

If the defense has top ten ability hidden somewhere in it, you can salvage the season. If it's just 2006 all over again, we probably have to watch a struggling offense and an underachieving defense the next four weeks through the bye.

If the offensive line stays healthy, they should gel and we can get a lot better in the second half of the year. But you have to win games in the intermediate, and well, Detroit just kicked the crap out of us.

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[quote=GMScud;597165]Anyone going to try and answer the original question of this thread?

[B]HOW WOULD YOU TRY TO FIX THINGS??[/B][/quote]

Have Snyder put the team up for sale on EBay.

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[quote=GTripp0012;597193]Well the offensive line needs time to gel with Rinehart in at RG. He, personally, did not look bad, but there was an overcompensation factor by Rabach and Heyer.
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Heyer and Rhineharts run blocking ability is a moot point because all Zorn wants to do is run left. I sware I've said it before but it's almost like he thinks he has Jones and Hutchinson on the left side.

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WOW JIM ZORN SOUNDS FUCKING STUPID...


20 bucks says Joe Bugel is the head coach in the morning

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I keep trying to write something that sounds intelligent but words fail me. All I know is that something has to change right now for me to salvage what's left of my sanity. What exactly that is, I don't know.

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;597115]~~~~~
AGREED!!!! Time for Vinny to go!!!![/quote]

What and have DS lose his hand ball player? Lose his best friend since 1997 or 1998? Lose his yes man? and do what? hire someone who will tell it like it is? Someone who will be brave enough to say "no don't go for that player"?

If he does I hope he doesn't stop there. Keep on firing all the way down. I can only hope DS has been talking with someone else and has them evaluating the players he would want to keep and ones he would let go.

Is there any way DS could bring in someone else who could act as an advisor? Someone to help Zorn?

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fire him and the damm GM (cerrato) and then get rid of campball he stinks to, through in the towel on the season we are not going anywhere anyway. lets get draft picks for next year

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[quote=GMScud;597165]Anyone going to try and answer the original question of this thread?

HOW WOULD YOU TRY TO FIX THINGS??[/quote]

Here we go!
Fire Zorn Monday... Name Bugel Interim or bring someone in asap..
JC will be gone after this yr and it's not all his fault, but his overall record shows he is gone.. CP more than likely is done as a "Star" RB so we need to add depth there.. Oline is decent and will get better because they are younger..

Blache will go when we bring in a new HC.
Add depth at CB, and youth on DLINE, move orakpo to DE!!!!!!

Please bring in a solid coach like Shanahan, Cowher, Holmgren we have to!! Trade up to get Sam Bradford if he comes out, if not draft another QB, we need a "FACE" of our franchise which we don't have now..