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Pocket$ $traight 09-02-2009 12:47 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;582793]I think it was dirty, he went right at the knees, basically exposing his rib that was "cracked".

I think Favre was just ticked to be in a Wildcat formation and took the opportunity to vent.[/quote]

Farve isn't even looking at him when the block is delivered.

I think this is being blown out of proportion just like everything with Favre.

12thMan 09-02-2009 12:56 AM

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wrong thread.

GMScud 09-02-2009 01:34 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;582833]You want to see a dirty shot...and if your stomach can handle it (warning: it's really gross). Do a YouTube search for Axel Witsel[/quote]

Wow, that was really gnarly. Ick. That thing snapped like a twig.

Ruhskins 09-02-2009 07:51 AM

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I wonder if this had been Tom Brady throwing the block, if the refs would have called the penalty on the guy being blocked.

Pocket$ $traight 09-02-2009 10:27 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;583020]I wonder if this had been Tom Brady throwing the block, if the refs would have called the penalty on the guy being blocked.[/quote]

They would have thrown a flag on the defender for making illegal contact with Brady.

GhettoDogAllStars 09-02-2009 10:41 AM

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Correct me, if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you can block a guy at the waist or below *just like Favre did* as long as you're in front of him. The flag wasn't for any "dirty" or illegal block. The flag was for this:

Crackback: Eligible receivers who take or move to a position more than two yards outside the tackle may not block an opponent below the waist if they then move back inside to block.

MTK 09-02-2009 10:45 AM

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;583071]Correct me, if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you can block a guy at the waist or below *just like Favre did* as long as you're in front of him. The flag wasn't for any "dirty" or illegal block. The flag was for this:

Crackback: Eligible receivers who take or move to a position more than two yards outside the tackle may not block an opponent below the waist if they then move back inside to block.[/quote]

It doesn't matter if Favre was in front of him or not, you can't block below the waist period if you are an eligible receiver more than two yards outside the tackle.

The flag was for a crackback, which is an illegal block.

GhettoDogAllStars 09-02-2009 10:48 AM

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Right -- legal block in any other situation. How then could it be dirty?

GhettoDogAllStars 09-02-2009 10:50 AM

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I see now that I said the flag wasn't for any "illegal block". What I meant was that the flag wasn't for his blocking technique -- just a technicality really.

MTK 09-02-2009 10:51 AM

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It wasn't dirty to me.

For it to be dirty, I think there needs to be some sort of intent to injure. I don't see why Favre would be intentionally trying to injure anyone.

Jay Schroeder 09-02-2009 10:53 AM

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The biggest idiot is Childress

Give this 39 year old qb a guaranteed 15 mill

Split him out wide and have him block a safety or lb

Its just stupid

FRPLG 09-02-2009 10:55 AM

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[quote=Jay Schroeder;583079]The biggest idiot is Childress

Give this 39 year old qb a guaranteed 15 mill

Split him out wide and have him block a safety or lb

Its just stupid[/quote]

Agreed.

BleedBurgundy 09-02-2009 11:02 AM

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Favre went right at the side of the guy's knee. The dude wasn't even looking, everyone knows that if you dive into the side of someone's leg when their foot is planted, you're going to cause an injury. Favre deserved to get his ass kicked for that play.

Lotus 09-02-2009 11:10 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;583077]It wasn't dirty to me.

For it to be dirty, I think there needs to be some sort of intent to injure. I don't see why Favre would be intentionally trying to injure anyone.[/quote]

It wasn't dirty to me, either, because I saw no intent to injure. It was illegal and dumb, but not dirty.

firstdown 09-02-2009 11:11 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;582893]I don't think it was intentionally dirty. I think it was just awkward on Favre's part and he didn't really know what to do, and he sort of fell toward Wilson and then tried to slow down or back up.

I don't know why Childress is even lining him up at wide receiver in a preseason game. I understand they want to get Harvin involved in some wildcat formations. But I thought the whole reason you got Favre (old, injured Favre) because you wanted a legit QB who could lead your team and not have to resort to offensive gimmicks.[/quote]

I could not have said it any better my self and if you have seen my grammer and spelling you know what I mean.

I'll bet the onse saying it was dirty are the same people who have become Farve haters.

Longtimefan 09-02-2009 11:29 AM

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[quote=saden1;582822]That was totally dirty. You don't block low like that. I mean, did you see how the guys knees buckled? Total cunt move![/quote]


I'm just wondering had Favre been in the pocket preparing to throw, and a defensive player came in and cross body blocked at/or below his knees' what the reaction would have been. Dirty or not dirty, these are the type plays that have often ended guys career's. A rule has been put in place to protect the QB from these type hits, and so it should be for any defenseless player.

Ruhskins 09-02-2009 11:45 AM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;583067]They would have thrown a flag on the defender for making illegal contact with Brady.[/quote]

"Personal foul, making illegal contact with Tom Bra...er I mean quarterback. 25-yard penalty, automatic first down, a $10,000 fine, and a new QB rule."

[quote=Mattyk72;583077]It wasn't dirty to me.

For it to be dirty, I think there needs to be some sort of intent to injure. [B]I don't see why Favre would be intentionally trying to injure anyone.[/B][/quote]

Especially if Favre could have easily gotten injured throwing the block.

DBUCHANON101 09-02-2009 11:47 AM

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I didnt think it was dirty, the guy wasnt looking where he was going.shame on him. we all know if he had his head around he would have tried to kill the ol man for getting in his way.

BleedBurgundy 09-02-2009 11:52 AM

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When I say he deserves to have his ass kicked, it's not because it was intentionally dirty, but because it was a careless action that could have cost someone their career.

Monkeydad 09-02-2009 11:52 AM

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Lets face it though, if this were Tavaris Jackson or Sage Rosenfels, we would not have even known about it unless we saw it live.

Favre can spill his Gatorade and it's front page news for a week.

Longtimefan 09-02-2009 12:51 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;583089]Favre went right at the side of the guy's knee. The dude wasn't even looking, everyone knows that if you dive into the side of someone's leg when their foot is planted, you're going to cause an injury. Favre deserved to get his ass kicked for that play.[/quote]


"Have Gun Will Travel"......Wire Favre, somewhere in Mississippi. I've often wondered how Tavaris Jackson, Sage Rosenfelds and Chad Pennington feel as a result of being dissed for a walk on the last two years. We know all three are too inteligent to publically state their true feelings. If I'm either of the first two, when the old man gets hurt and I'm called upon, I'm going to remember and my bag is going to be mixed.

jdlea 09-02-2009 01:29 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;583089]Favre went right at the side of the guy's knee. The dude wasn't even looking, everyone knows that if you dive into the side of someone's leg when their foot is planted, you're going to cause an injury. Favre deserved to get his ass kicked for that play.[/quote]

I can see where you're coming from with this, however, saying "the guy wasn't even looking" is garbage. One of the first things every defensive players learns is to keep your head on a swivel. Know where you are and what's coming at you, the defender didn't and that's why he wasn't looking. That's not good football.

I think that's the problem I have with all the new rules about illegal blocks. If defenders were doing what they're supposed to do, they wouldn't get blown up so much. I don't care if a hit's coming from the blindside, they should have been looking around and known what was coming at them.

firstdown 09-02-2009 01:44 PM

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[quote=Buster;583119]Lets face it though, if this were Tavaris Jackson or Sage Rosenfels, we would not have even known about it unless we saw it live.

Favre can spill his Gatorade and it's front page news for a week.[/quote]

Well the link here was to Youtube and not an article so is it really getting alot of air time. I'm sure someone will talk about it because it Brett and they need to fill some space but I don't see it all over the news. To me it looked like a 40 some year old QB looking up a seeing someone coming at him and he said OH SH!T and did more of a protection type hit which was actually more dangerous for both players.

SC Skins Fan 09-02-2009 02:12 PM

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;582837][FONT=Arial]4. Crackback: Eligible receivers who take or move to a position more than two yards outside the tackle may not block an opponent below the [B]waist[/B] if they then move back inside to block. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]Childress needs to be very clear about this rule. Favre's block was clearly illegal. I don't think it was intentional though. But I can tell you in all the time I coached, I never taught going low on a crackback, I always had my players aim for the opponents ribcage. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]Someone on the Vikes coaching staff needs to get a clue since they're going to be running a good bit of the Wildcat with Harvin. On this play [/FONT][FONT=Arial]Favre just made a pussy block.[/FONT][/quote]

Thank you for actually invoking the rules of football. I was about to do the same but figured I would see if anyone had beaten me to the punch. Unfortunately it falls on deaf ears.

If anyone has ever played football you know that if you get a crack on an opponent who does not see you coming you will take him out every time, there is actually absolutely no reason to go low (apart from cowardice and/or stupidity - Trent Green essentially ended his career on a similar play when his head collided with the defensive players knee when he went for the block - he was peeling back rather than split wide, but same principle involved).

In the one of the last two preseason games (I can't remember which) Albert Haynesworth actually was a victim of a crackback cut. It was a different situation because he was within 3 yards of the LOS, but the actual dynamics of the play were exactly the same. The play flowed away from Big Al, he pursued, and an offensive lineman who he did not see peeled off and cut him at the knees. If that had resulted in a torn ACL for the $100 million man I bet we would be having a different conversation. It is a reckless and unnecessary move, period.

SmootSmack 09-04-2009 04:02 PM

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Favre has been fined $10,000 for the hit

Jay Schroeder 09-04-2009 04:05 PM

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Thats like 10 cents to that rich hillbilly

CRedskinsRule 09-04-2009 04:08 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;584366]Favre has been fined $10,000 for the hit[/quote]
Yowsa


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