Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

I'm obviously speculating but we may be able to keep Marko on the practice squad, should it come to that. We are the only folks who wanted him in the draft and we might be the only folks who want him now.

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

[quote=SBXVII;577699]Just my take.....everyone seems enamored with Hackett and Hagens, I'm not. Hackett has spent 5 yrs in the league already and has failed to be a star. He's filled in nicely for teams, and knows the system but is not a major leader or staple of any team which is why he has been let previously. Hagens has 2 yrs in the league and to be honest I see him as another Hackett. His name excapes me, I've never heard of him before. He is 5ft 10inch's so my personal feeling is if we were to be stuck with someone 5-10 I'd rather have Eloi if he can actually catch. Only cause he's reported to have similar speed to Moss but younger which in my book speaks of Moss's future replacement. Possibly.

How sweet it would be to have 4 young WR's (Thomas, Kelly, Mitchell, and Eloi) with a mix of speed and hight to compliment Moss and ARE.[/quote]


I think the Hagens bandwagon blew a gasket in Baltimore. He needs to turn into TO for the rest of the pre-season to make up for that debacle.

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

Hackett based on his experience.

Mitchell will be on the PS.

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

[quote=Mattyk72;577864]Hackett based on his experience.

Mitchell will be on the PS.[/quote]I hate putting a guy on the practice squad that was drafted. If he gets picked up by another team and becomes a player, it will have been a completely wasted draft pick, not that we haven't wasted picks in the past. :frusty:

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

What's the probability of a losing a 7th round WR from the PS? Probably pretty slim.

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

Slim or not, I'd hate to lose him. I think his upside is pretty good and could possibly help us this year.

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

I doubt we put a draft pick that shows promise on the PS. I also believe he has the potential to make the team on merit. Hackett wasn't even our first choice between Roydell Williams and himself. For me, Hackett is the definition of a camp body. (Eloi also). If Hackett were a killer ST player, then he could definitely take up Thrash's mantle, but as a 5th receiver he has less potential than Mitchell.

Depth Chart: 5 receivers
 

This is MY depth chart as far as the WRs are concerned. I hope most will agree. I am so pissed that Hagans and Thrash are on the new Madden. What's up with that? Thrash has been gone for a while..

1. Moss (no explanation needed)
2. Devin Thomas (takes pressure off Moss and has exceptional speed)
3. A.R.E (This position is more sutiable for him from what I've read)
4. Malcom Kelly (could have been 2-3 - But He needs to improve on route running)
5. Marko Mitchell (he has been shining in traning camp..Ask Carlos Rogers..lol) Also see CLinton Portis loves Marko Mitchell [URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/31336-clinton-portis-loves-marko-mitchell.html[/URL]

What are your thoughts? I know Hackett knows the offense and Hagans is versatile (wonder if the wildcat or anything has to do with him being here since he was a former QB..Probably not..Poor mans A.R.E. to me)

I think Marko is a diamond in the rough and we should not chance letting another team pick him up. Having another WR with height and that can burn would be a nice compliment to Devin and Malcom in the future. We would be set for years. Moss and ARE aren't exactly spring chickens..

Re: Depth Chart: 5 receivers
 

Need a point of clarification. Is this your suggested depth chart, or what the depth chart actually is?

Re: Depth Chart: 5 receivers
 

I like it.

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

[quote=Mattyk72;577870]What's the probability of a losing a 7th round WR from the PS? Probably pretty slim.[/quote]True, but, if he's a draft pick that goes on the PS, he's probably not in the future plans.

Re: Depth Chart: 5 receivers
 

[quote=Schneed10;577896]Need a point of clarification. Is this your suggested depth chart, or what the depth chart actually is?[/quote]

Suggested

at this point on the official depth chart on Redskins.com is as follows:
[U][COLOR=#2200cc][URL="http://www.redskins.com/gen/team/depthChart.jsp"]Depth Chart - Washington Redskins[/URL][/COLOR][/U]

Hackett and Hagans are above Marko Mitchell. I for one don't want another tip toe burgular (S. Alexander) episode (seattle connections). Might call this one alligator arm souffle (T.J. Hackett)...lmao - Just kidding. Whatever reason he is not talented enough to stay on a team....

We need to build on youth. Not journeymen. If they were that good they would not be journeymen. I am supporter of UVA and MD prospects. Just not Hagans as a WR..

Re: Depth Chart: 5 receivers
 

[quote=dmvskinzfan08;577902]Suggested

at this point on the official depth chart on Redskins.com is as follows:
[U][COLOR=#2200cc][URL="http://www.redskins.com/gen/team/depthChart.jsp"]Depth Chart - Washington Redskins[/URL][/COLOR][/U]

Hackett and Hagans are above Marko Mitchell. I for one don't want another tip toe burgular (S. Alexander) episode (seattle connections). Might call this one alligator arm souffle (T.J. Hackett)...lmao - Just kidding. Whatever reason he is not talented enough to stay on a team....

We need to build on youth. Not journeymen. If they were that good they would not be journeymen. I am supporter of UVA and MD prospects. Just not Hagans as a WR..[/quote]The depth chart doesn't tell you who is/isn't likely to be cut, it just tells you who is in line for playing time pending their making of the team.

Marko Mitchell could make the team based on his draft pick status, and then not play much offense in deference to Hackett. But Hackett and Hagans are both way more likely to be cut.

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

[quote=SBXVII;577699]Just my take.....everyone seems enamored with Hackett and Hagens, I'm not. Hackett has spent 5 yrs in the league already and has failed to be a star. He's filled in nicely for teams, and knows the system but is not a major leader or staple of any team which is why he has been let previously. Hagens has 2 yrs in the league and to be honest I see him as another Hackett. His name excapes me, I've never heard of him before. He is 5ft 10inch's so my personal feeling is if we were to be stuck with someone 5-10 I'd rather have Eloi if he can actually catch. Only cause he's reported to have similar speed to Moss but younger which in my book speaks of Moss's future replacement. Possibly.

How sweet it would be to have 4 young WR's (Thomas, Kelly, Mitchell, and Eloi) with a mix of speed and hight to compliment Moss and ARE.[/quote]

Hagans was a QB in college that was coverted to a WR/Slash player because of his height. He was a starter at UVA and did fairly well. But by no means is he or should be on our roster. We should put Eloi on the practice squad but Marko needs to be the 5th receiver.

Re: Depth Chart: 5 receivers
 

[quote=GTripp0012;577904]The depth chart doesn't tell you who is/isn't likely to be cut, it just tells you who is in line for playing time pending their making of the team.

Marko Mitchell could make the team based on his draft pick status, and then not play much offense in deference to Hackett. But Hackett and Hagans are both way more likely to be cut.[/quote]

Umm exactly. That's my point. So the depth chart had Hagans and Hackett for more playing time as far as the depth chart goes. Zorn better not play favorites with Hackett. We already made that mistake with Alexander..

So to me the depth chart reflects their opinions on each WR. Its sort of like an unoffical rank until cuts are made. Maybe feelings have changed since they made the depth chart. I hope so..

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

[quote=Mattyk72;577870]What's the probability of a losing a 7th round WR from the PS? Probably pretty slim.[/quote]
Teams have lost undrafted players, including us

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

[quote=tryfuhl;577913]Teams have lost [B]undrafted[/B] players, including us[/quote]

Huh? We drafted him. Not getting this statement. With out the "un" maybe..lol

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

[quote=dmvskinzfan08;577919]Huh? We drafted him. Not getting this statement. With out the "un" maybe..lol[/quote]

He was trying to say that if teams could lose undrafted players to another team, a 7th rounder could easily be picked up by another team.

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

The way I see it, wasn't it Portis that chewed off Gibbs ear about Sean Taylor??? Apparently the guy knows talent when he sees it... I am just sayin....

Re: Depth Chart: 5 receivers
 

[quote=dmvskinzfan08;577910]Umm exactly. That's my point. So the depth chart had Hagans and Hackett for more playing time as far as the depth chart goes. [B]Zorn better not play favorites with Hackett. We already made that mistake with Alexander..[/B]

So to me the depth chart reflects their opinions on each WR. Its sort of like an unoffical rank until cuts are made. Maybe feelings have changed since they made the depth chart. I hope so..[/quote]If Hackett makes the team and Mitchell gets plucked from the practice squad, Zorn better pray that Marko doesn't become the next Colston for somebody else.

Re: Depth Chart: 5 receivers
 

[quote=dmvskinzfan08;577910]Umm exactly. That's my point. So the depth chart had Hagans and Hackett for more playing time as far as the depth chart goes. Zorn better not play favorites with Hackett. We already made that mistake with Alexander..

So to me the depth chart reflects their opinions on each WR. Its sort of like an unoffical rank until cuts are made. Maybe feelings have changed since they made the depth chart. I hope so..[/quote]

There's no reason to believe Zorn is playing favorites with Hackett. If he were, we would have signed him last year to a bigger free agent contract, or we would have signed him the first several times he came for tryouts this off-season.

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

[quote=DCtoAZ;577685]Let's shoot for hire than Malcom Kelly type ....[/quote]

I think Kelly will be a star and Thomas will be a servicable #2 or 3. Moss won't play or start forever and Randle El needs to be be upgraded.

Re: Depth Chart: 5 receivers
 

The #5 WR Poll should be attached to this thread. By the way, 64% of respondants say MarkoPolo!

Re: Depth Chart: 5 receivers
 

1)Moss and Thomas
2)Kelly and Mitchell
3)Randle El

My logic here is to place similiar players ie size, speed, and agility where they would be most effective on the field.

Re: Depth Chart: 5 receivers
 

[quote=backrow;577934]The #5 WR Poll should be attached to this thread. By the way, 64% of respondants say MarkoPolo![/quote]

I agree, but the poll was created before the thread. Can't move it over

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

[quote=tryfuhl;577913]Teams have lost undrafted players, including us[/quote]

Ok but back to my question, what is the probability of losing him??

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

[quote=SouperMeister;577868]I hate putting a guy on the practice squad that was drafted. If he gets picked up by another team and becomes a player, it will have been a completely wasted draft pick, not that we haven't wasted picks in the past. :frusty:[/quote]

I agree, I really think someone would pick him up. Hackett has been around, and clearly doesnt have "IT". Hagans has some potential, but is still very raw and we havent invested anything in him. MM being the draft pick, Im hoping they keep him around.

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

[quote=Mattyk72;577870]What's the probability of a losing a 7th round WR from the PS? Probably pretty slim.[/quote]


Probability high to teams who may have lost a WR due to injury and Marko show's pretty good skills in preseason.

I'm guessing Zorn is leaning towards Hackett only cause he knows the system but again I say he has done nothing in this league that screams future of this team or team leader. We have Moss and ARE as vets, lets bring in some youth. Who knows maybe he will be another star WR plucked from the later rounds. Funny if he out performs Thomas and Kelly. Doubtfull due to lack of playing time and time in the league and system.

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

Just to clear this up......

[B]Of the five players competing for the wide receiver spot, Hackett is the only one who doesn't play special teams, though Mitchell -- who had 153 catches in three years at Nevada -- never did before this camp. Special teams coordinator Danny Smith said Mitchell has a "real long way to go, but he's really made vast improvement."

[/B]

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

This is a good read also plus Eloi would have no problem being put on the PS.

[B]Hixon called Eloi "probably the best athlete of the bunch" and Smith said plays like his kickoff tackle against the Ravens, as a safety, are "hard for a rookie safety to do. . . . We've had a lot of guys who haven't made that play."

Eloi said this week that he would be excited for the opportunity to play on the practice squad, because that means "the guy is good, we'd like to keep him here, but he still has a lot to learn. And you have nothing to do but respect that."

[/B]

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

I would think a team like Chicago would jump on Mitchell pretty quick if he were put on the PS. You think Cutler would like to have him considering who he's got?

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

MM (Marko Mitchell) should not be put on the PS he'll never make it there some one's going to snatch him up.

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

[quote=NYCskinfan82;578060]MM (Marko Mitchell) should not be put on the PS he'll never make it there some one's going to snatch him up.[/quote]

I agree. MM can be the 5th WR and put Eloi on the PS.

Re: Depth Chart: 5 receivers
 

[quote=SouperMeister;577931]If Hackett makes the team and Mitchell gets plucked from the practice squad, Zorn better pray that Marko doesn't become the next Colston for somebody else.[/quote]

The Saints would take him and turn him into a 1000 yard receiver.

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

[quote=DIRTEE;577925]He was trying to say that if teams could lose undrafted players to another team, a 7th rounder could easily be picked up by another team.[/quote]
indeed

Re: Depth Chart: 5 receivers
 

[quote=SmootSmack;577932]There's no reason to believe Zorn is playing favorites with Hackett. If he were, we would have signed him last year to a bigger free agent contract, or we would have signed him the first several times he came for tryouts this off-season.[/quote]
We tried to.

Re: Depth Chart: 5 receivers
 

[quote=tryfuhl;578150]We tried to.[/quote]

What do you mean we tried to?

Re: Depth Chart: 5 receivers
 

[quote=SmootSmack;578167]What do you mean we tried to?[/quote]
Didn't we offer Hackett a contract earlier in the year but then he had "personal reasons" that he couldn't be here for awhile after his workout/ota's or whatever?

Re: Depth Chart: 5 receivers
 

[quote=tryfuhl;578173]Didn't we offer Hackett a contract earlier in the year but then he had "personal reasons" that he couldn't be here for awhile after his workout/ota's or whatever?[/quote]

I don't recall if we ever actually offered him a contract, just that we wanted to bring him in for a tryout at least

Either way, he may or may not make the team. But I don't think it's just going to be handed to him

Re: Clinton Portis Loves Marko Mitchell
 

I think Mitchell is making it real hard or coaches. I am pretty sure they felt DJ would snatch the 5 spot and it would be done but Mitchell is showing not just "pre-season scrub" goodness but he actually looks like he could help us out this year. His route on the TD was outstanding and that is a hard route to perfect. He has size and speed. Unless he craps the bed I don't see how we can't keep him on the roster.