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[quote=freddyg12;524463]My wife kept saying that his right foot was only touching his left foot but never touched the ground. They never gave us a good enough angle to actually see if the toes of his right foot hit the turf. It was really close.

As for the game overall, I'll agree w/Mike Golic who said it was a great 4th quarter but there was some sloppy play prior to that.

Calls were big, I thought the personal foul on Dansby was bogus & yet Warner took several hits that were just as 'late.' But I think they at least called the holding well, and they got Pitt for it in the end zone. Fitzgerald got held a lot.[/quote]

His right foot was kinda tucked behind the left one and it was really hard to tell if it touched the ground or not. Either way it was too close to overturn. Great catch by Holmes.

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[quote=freddyg12;524463]My wife kept saying that his right foot was only touching his left foot but never touched the ground. They never gave us a good enough angle to actually see if the toes of his right foot hit the turf. It was really close.

As for the game overall, I'll agree w/Mike Golic who said it was a great 4th quarter but there was some sloppy play prior to that.

Calls were big, I thought the personal foul on Dansby was bogus & yet Warner took several hits that were just as 'late.' But I think they at least called the holding well, and they got Pitt for it in the end zone. Fitzgerald got held a lot.[/quote]

I thought that holding call was too close to call in that situation. The Steeler lineman was pancaked and I didnt think he was holding because he was busy getting knocked on his azz. IMO, that was the biggest call of the game as it gave AZ the ball back for their taking the lead drive when it looked like Pgh was going to start a drive of their own.

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I really don't think the officiating decided this one and definately don't think the fix was in or anything, but I feel confident in saying that there was a different standard for late hit on quarterback with the Cardinals than the Steelers, and that's sort of the way it's been all year in Steeler games.

I don't believe in giveback calls, so let's just treat the Dansby call as what it was: an awful call on a drive that ended at the two yard line anyway, and move on.

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It was a top five super bowl ever, and it had more game changing plays than last year, but I'm not going to be calling it the greatest SB ever. It didn't beat last year as a game.

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Last years still blows this one away in my opinion, and to be honest, I didnt watch (attentivley) most of the first 3 quarters because I was just talking and doing whatever...but that was one hell of an ending.

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I'd say it was the best SuperBowl I can remember watching as far as excitement. There were turnovers, big plays, 4th quarter drama... The only thing that taints it a bit IMO were all the penalties, but an awesome, awesome game. I enjoyed it more than last year's game. The Tyree catch was amazing, sure, but all the explosive plays and outstanding quarterbacking made this one so fun.

The hyperbole on ESPN has been pretty funny. Yeah it was a great game, but they did their top 10 all-time SuperBowl plays, and three of them were from yesterday's game. That's a bit much. Like Matty said, let the dust settle a bit.

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[quote=724Skinsfan;524456]The game was decent and the final 5 minutes were exciting but I never could shake the fact that the Arizona Cardinals were representing the NFC. One of the reasons I hate parity is the Super Bowl is no longer a game of the two best in their divisions. I think this would have been a great Monday Night Football game. Not a great Super Bowl, though.[/quote]
So they beat all three teams they faced in the playoffs and they are still not the best team in the NFC? Maybe we should just elminat the playoffs and just take the teams with the best records at the end of the year.

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[quote=GMScud;524493]I'd say it was the best SuperBowl I can remember watching as far as excitement. There were turnovers, big plays, 4th quarter drama... The only thing that taints it a bit IMO were all the penalties, but an awesome, awesome game. I enjoyed it more than last year's game. The Tyree catch was amazing, sure, but all the explosive plays and outstanding quarterbacking made this one so fun.

[b]The hyperbole on ESPN has been pretty funny. Yeah it was a great game, but they did their top 10 all-time SuperBowl plays, and three of them were from yesterday's game. That's a bit much.[/b] Like Matty said, let the dust settle a bit.[/quote]
Imagine that, ESPN going overboard on hyping something. I'm really surprised they haven't created a segment 'Top 10 highlight catchphrases from this hour' to run at the end of each show.

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Not sure if it was the best SB ever but it was a great game to watch. Could not get over all the penalties. Arizona could have won the game but they just beat themselves w/ the killer TO which was a 14 point swing and all the stupid calls.

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Y'all need to get out of here, saying this was the best super bowl ever! Man that game was so ugly to watch! no team could run the rock, Cards OTs couldn't block a turtle coming off the edge, big ben kept the ball alive cause the cards couldn't tackle him.....saw more flags then at ur local July 4th parade....everyone saying it was best ever cause of the 2 lead changes in the 4th quarter, including a great catch by holmes in the corner.....HOW THE HELL did 3 guys let holmes get to the corner?!?!?!? It was good, but not nearly the best. not even top 10

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plus, Kurt threw up almost 350 yards on the steelers defense, one of "the best of all time"

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[quote=The Goat;524416]I was gonna call it the worst called game ever actually, just behind the Seahawks-Steelers SB. I've never seen so many calls go one way (in a team's favor). After the infamous "push-off" call i didn't thing a SB would be handled so badly but wonders never cease.[/quote]

I do think it was poorly officiated and managed by the refs! seemed like they were not assertive enough and at times had no spine... to not even stop the game to take a look at the replay on the last Cardinals drive was terrible. This play is the reason the replay system was implemented and why I think should be taken away from the judgement of the refs on the field and have extra ref in the booth to umpire the replays. We would get the right call and faster than now.

I have no love for both teams but wanted a good game...Alright game.

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Everyone is talking about the Warner fumble at the end of the game, but what about the refs overlooking Holmes' celebration after his touchdown? Using the football as a prop, that should have been a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct.

Either way I thought the game was a lot of fun to watch, as an impartial fan I couldn't have asked for more.

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That was a great game! Both teams responded in the clutch and the contest was not decided until the final gun. That's how a championship should be played. I know the Cardinals were the sentimental favorite, and maybe someone lost some money, but you have to give it up to the Steelers. They made the big plays that counted. The Cardinals should not hold their heads down because they were one interception touchdown from victory.

P.S. Larry Fitzgerald is a beast!...I only hope Devin Thomas or Malcolm Kelly can develop into half the player he is.

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The last five minutes were incredible stuff. Certainly an enjoyable game to watch. I will wait on the "Best Ever" call. The Pittsburg-Dallas SB's were pretty damn good games (particularly when the Cowboys lost). Also, I seem to remember Cinci.- SF being pretty damn good too.

At this point, with 43 games, I don't think there will ever be agreement on "Best Ever" and maybe not even "Top Five". More likely, 5-10 games will vie for being the Best Ever. At this point, I would say that this game certainly merits the consideration. (I know, I know - "Thank you Captain Obvious").

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- While the Warner "fumble" should have been looked at by the replay booth, I don't think it would have affected the outcome of the game

- I do however think the non-call on Holmes would have...

- It was the 5th or 6th angle NBC showed that did finally show me that Holmes had both feet in. However, I think it's a situation where there wasn't enough evidence to overturn. And it was nowhere near as clear as Madden and Michaels wanted everyone to think it was.

- I lost all respect for James Harrison when he decided to punk around with Aaron Francisco. He should have been ejected for his actions. Up until that point, one could have made MVP arguments for him.

- The play that changed the game was Francisco (who is a backup SS) biting on a close route to Holmes and slipping. Up until then, Arizona had successfully grabbed the momentum that Pittsburgh gained in the 1st half and was getting ready for the kill.

I wouldn't call it the best ever. It was a decent game, but only got that way half way through the 4th quarter when L-Fitz went up and caught his 1st TD. Up until then, it looked like a Steelers' rout.

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[quote=SmootSmack;524509]Everyone is talking about the Warner fumble at the end of the game, but what about the refs overlooking Holmes' celebration after his touchdown? Using the football as a prop, that should have been a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct.

Either way I thought the game was a lot of fun to watch, as an impartial fan I couldn't have asked for more.[/quote]

I completely agree. I couldn't believe they didn't call that! In a game where the refs seemed to call everything including some questionable personal fouls...they completely ignore that obvious call. Using the football as a prop is a 15 yard penalty without question...not a judgement call. It needed to be called. Arizona could have ended up with the ball near mid field with 30 seconds and 2 timeouts. That's a whole different scenario...

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It was an incredible 4th quarter! Best I have seen.

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[quote=SmootSmack;524509]Everyone is talking about the Warner fumble at the end of the game, but what about the refs overlooking Holmes' celebration after his touchdown? Using the football as a prop, that should have been a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct.

Either way I thought the game was a lot of fun to watch, as an impartial fan I couldn't have asked for more.[/quote]

How about the other Warner fumble that was challenged by Wisenhunt and overturned? Warner took his helmet off on the field and was yelling at the refs that he was throwing the ball forward. That was pretty obvious unsportsmanlike conduct too.

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In terms of excitement, yes it was close game.
But all time greatest? No.
The level of play was not all time greatest caliber.
The rule changes over the years has turned NFL football into a flag football throwing league and last nights game was the evidence of that.
[B]73[/B] pass attempts for 633 yards to only [B]38[/B] running plays for only 72 yards. The Cardinals only ran the ball 12 times for 12 yards. Pathetic.
Roethlisbuger was not very impressive.

After watching the NFL network last week and seeing the past Sb's and seeing the Pittsburg vs Dallas SB in 1979, it reminds me of what two really talented teams looks like. I saw Staubach take a vicious but yet clean hit that I expected him to miss a play or two. But he bounced back up like it did not hurt him at all. In today's NFL Roethlisberger last night got pushed (two hand push) and they called a 15 penalty. Sad.

The NFL and most if its fans wants a game like last night.

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[quote=Defensewins;524540]In terms of excitement, yes it was close game.
But all time greatest? No.
The level of play was not all time greatest caliber.
The rule changes over the years has turned NFL football into a flag football throwing league and last nights game was the evidence of that.
[B]73[/B] pass attempts for 633 yards to only [B]38[/B] running plays for only 72 yards. The Cardinals only ran the ball 12 times for 12 yards. Pathetic.
Roethlisbuger was not very impressive.

After watching the NFL network last week and seeing the past Sb's and seeing the Pittsburg vs Dallas SB in 1979, it reminds me of what two really talented teams looks like. I saw Staubach take a vicious but yet clean hit that I expected him to miss a play or two. But he bounced back up like it did not hurt him at all. [B]In today's NFL Roethlisberger last night got pushed (two hand push) and they called a 15 penalty. Sad. [/B]

The NFL and most if its fans wants a game like last night.[/quote]

It's beyond sad. I don't even understand why the refs call stuff like that. Especially in a game of this magnitude. But it seems every single week I see horrible calls that are just so bad that I've gotten use to it.

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[quote=Whiteboi_J;524500]Y'all need to get out of here, saying this was the best super bowl ever! Man that game was so ugly to watch! no team could run the rock, Cards OTs [B]couldn't block a turtle[/B] coming off the edge, big ben kept the ball alive cause the cards couldn't tackle him.....saw more flags then at ur local July 4th parade....everyone saying it was best ever cause of the 2 lead changes in the 4th quarter, including a great catch by holmes in the corner.....HOW THE HELL did 3 guys let holmes get to the corner?!?!?!? It was good, but not nearly the best. not even top 10[/quote]

You want to take this one Goat? I thought it was a decent game....exciting at the end, but the officiating was'nt the greatest.....as usual.

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Cardinals' fans in Tucson celebrated [url=http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/sports/278448.php]prematurely[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;524551]Cardinals' fans in Tucson celebrated [URL="http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/sports/278448.php"]prematurely[/URL][/quote]

Lol, I might use that for a presentation I have to do in class on consumer perceptions.

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The issue with close games is people will always complain about calls. You either like the close games and deal with the calls good or bad or you like the blow outs where there is no question. For a long time we had blow outs and recently have been having a run of close games like this one. I would like to see the Skins pull some miracle and make it in next year and have a nice blow out. lol.

In any event we are one step closer to draft day. lol. Bring on the Pro bowl, Free agency, and then draft day. Yeah.

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Seems to be a buzz stirring about the game being one of the best.

[url=http://views.washingtonpost.com/theleague/index.html?hpid=topnews]The League - Washington Post NFL Discussion Panel and Blog[/url]

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[quote=12thMan;524557]Seems to be a buzz stirring about the game being one of the best.

[url=http://views.washingtonpost.com/theleague/index.html?hpid=topnews]The League - Washington Post NFL Discussion Panel and Blog[/url][/quote]

Not surprising the day after the game, let's see what they say in 2014

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[quote=Defensewins;524540]In terms of excitement, yes it was close game.
But all time greatest? No.
The level of play was not all time greatest caliber.
The rule changes over the years has turned NFL football into a flag football throwing league and last nights game was the evidence of that.
[B]73[/B] pass attempts for 633 yards to only [B]38[/B] running plays for only 72 yards. The Cardinals only ran the ball 12 times for 12 yards. Pathetic.
[B]Roethlisbuger was not very impressive.[/B]

After watching the NFL network last week and seeing the past Sb's and seeing the Pittsburg vs Dallas SB in 1979, it reminds me of what two really talented teams looks like. I saw Staubach take a vicious but yet clean hit that I expected him to miss a play or two. But he bounced back up like it did not hurt him at all. In today's NFL Roethlisberger last night got pushed (two hand push) and they called a 15 penalty. Sad.

The NFL and most if its fans wants a game like last night.[/quote]

Really??

I was amazed at how he kept escaping from pressure to keep plays alive. I thought he played a great game and overall the game was very entertaining.

The lack of a running game was due to a few things. #1 both run D's did their job, and #2 Arizona is a passing team and they were playing from behind for alot of the game.

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could it be that to some degree the officials seemed incompetent or worse

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[quote=Angry;524458]If not for that pick 6, they just may have.

I was also wondering why the corner went for the ball instead of trying to push Santonio Holmes out of bounds...stupid.[/quote]

three guys and you let him get behind you. what a lame ending for the cards

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[quote=Mattyk72;524559]Really??

I was amazed at how he kept escaping from pressure to keep plays alive. I thought he played a great game and overall the game was very entertaining.

The lack of a running game was due to a few things. #1 both run D's did their job, and #2 Arizona is a passing team and they were playing from behind for alot of the game.[/quote]

One thing that has always impressed me about Roeth, and even more so yesterday, is his ability to keep plays alive with his deceptive mobility. That play where he escaped a pass rush and being nearly sacked twice and then threw off the wrong foot across his body to the other side of the field to Heath Miller, that was a fantastic play that most people think are only reserved for the likes of Donovan McNabb.

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I just ate the best sandwich ever. I just made it so naturally since it's fresh in my head, it makes it the best. No need to let it sink in and think about it

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[quote=SmootSmack;524567]One thing that has always impressed me about Roeth, and even more so yesterday, is his ability to keep plays alive with his deceptive mobility. That play where he escaped a pass rush and being nearly sacked twice and then threw off the wrong foot across his body to the other side of the field to Heath Miller, that was a fantastic play that most people think are only reserved for the likes of Donovan McNabb.[/quote]

I understand Roeth is strong, but it amazes me how many jams he gets out of. I would think JC is more athletic and should be able to do the same thing. Maybe I'm underestimating Ben. You think about how many times he was sacked this year and you have to wonder how many times it would have been if Big Ben weren't so adept at evading the rush. He must have been under pressure all year.

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Good fourth quarter. But not even close to the 'BEST SB EVER'

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game was good, officiating was ATROCIUOS. the NFL should be embarrassed.

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I agree with the last two posts. For me the 49ers win over the Bengals with Montana's pass to Taylor may have been the best, but the Rams v Titans was up there. THis one was close as, again it got exciting late.

I don't think the officiating was atrocious though. It was bad. Two reversals on review (and one wasn't even hard to call) and that roughing the passer call were bad, and how Harrison wasn't ejected for what he did I don't know. However, Gandy made it hard for them not to call holding and they did commit some other dumb fouls (like running over he holder!), so it can't come close to contributing to the result. However it does raise a lot of what if questions. It should be about the game on the field, not whether the officials made the difference.

In the end it was the Cards D failing to suck it up and play strong when it mattered that made the difference. They played well through the playoff's, but nobody will remember that compared with that last drive. I just hope the quality players on that Cards team get another chance sat the big one, whether with them or a new team. It would be a crime if Fitzgerald never gets a ring - he is awesome.

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the non-call on the LAST TD celebration using the ball as a prop and multiple players going to the ground, and NOT even LOOKING at the last play was atrocious IMO.

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NO WAY. Read the Aldridge column. He's right on here. Fairly boring and poorly played game until mid-4th Qtr.

[URL="http://views.washingtonpost.com/theleague/panelists/2009/02/super-bowl-xliii-greatest-super-bowl-ever-aldridge.html"]David Aldridge: The Pittsburgh Steelers' 27-23 win over the Arizona Cardinals in Super Bowl XLIII wasn't the greatest Super Bowl ever - The League at washingtonpost.com[/URL]

These SBs come to mind as better, not mentioned in the article:

SB XVII Skins 1st win, Hogs vs. Killer Bs, Riggo's run the #1 moment in Redskins history.

SB X Pitt beats Dallas 21 - 17, Lynn Swann amazing game.

SB XXXVI NE last minute drive to beat STL. Cost me $ 1300 in a missed square...damn you Weis/Brady

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carolina vs N.E. is up there too... with this game... prolly better.

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Yeah and **** the steelers they beat us, But atleast we beat zona fair. The cards got hosed by the refs and the steeler loving league.