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[quote=Redskins8588;275170]Say what you will about Taylor making the Pro-Bowl. IMO, Taylor should have made it last year, and even though the team struggled he did the best he could with trying to make up for AA. He played alot better when Fox came in.

But [B]HOW IN THE HELL DOES WITTEN MAKE IT OVER COOLEY????[/B] I mean Witten had 64 catches for 750+ yards and 1TD, thats it he hit paydirt 1 time last season!!!! Cooley had 57 catches for 734 yards and 6TD's and he still doesnt get in. That is totally crazy!!![/quote]

That is two years that Cooley was snubbed. I didn't realize that Cooley had that good of a year and he helped me win a fantasy league!

I have to think that he will hit 1000 yards next year if Campbell improves at all.

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;275171]That is two years that Cooley was snubbed. I didn't realize that Cooley had that good of a year and he helped me win a fantasy league!

I have to think that he will hit 1000 yards next year if Campbell improves at all.[/QUOTE]

I really did think that he had that good of a year either but when he is consistant at playing like that we just come to expect it of him. Even if Cooley hits 1000 yards and 4 or 5 TD's he will still get snubbed...

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I truly believe that if we had fielded a 10-6 team again that Cooley would have gotten his due respect and recognition. It just so happens that good players on underperforming teams get snubbed, while players on good teams get overhyped.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;275157]In the NFC? Probably no one at this point. And I never said he didn't deserve to go as a 3rd alternate. I just said that Bob Sanders, when healthy is a better player. That guy is a serious difference maker.[/QUOTE]
I dont know which one is better,but when sanders came back the indy defense went from shit to shinola

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Sanders is a really good safety, but even though I watch a TON of football, I honestly have not seen enough of him to say just how good he is.

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I will probaboly now watch the Pro Bowl for the sole reason that Taylor is playing.

He didnt have a "pro bowl" season, but I think given the circumstances he played alright.

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[QUOTE=htownskinfan;275179]I dont know which one is better,but when sanders came back the indy defense went from shit to shinola[/QUOTE]

Yeah, kinda like Taylor was to the 2005 Redskins D. Remember the first Tampa Bay game when Taylor was out. IMO, the Redskins would have won that game if Taylor played.

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last year was much better. i guess its nice to have someone there, but he only saved one game this year (dallas), and last year he saved at least two (eagles, bucs).

he really didn't seem to play so hot this year.

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[quote=Redskins8588;275170]Say what you will about Taylor making the Pro-Bowl. IMO, Taylor should have made it last year, and even though the team struggled he did the best he could with trying to make up for AA. He played alot better when Fox came in.

But [B]HOW IN THE HELL DOES WITTEN MAKE IT OVER COOLEY????[/B] I mean Witten had 64 catches for 750+ yards and 1TD, thats it he hit paydirt 1 time last season!!!! Cooley had 57 catches for 734 yards and 6TD's and he still doesnt get in. That is totally crazy!!![/quote]

You know why Witten made the Pro Bowl and Cooley didn't? Witten is a freakin' Cowturd. Obviously the media prefers Cowturds over the Skins. Look at how Art Monk was snubbed and the coke-head/whore-monger Michael Irvin was selected to Pro Football Hall of Shame.

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[quote=skinsfan69;275157]In the NFC? Probably no one at this point. And I never said he didn't deserve to go as a 3rd alternate. I just said that Bob Sanders, when healthy is a better player. That guy is a serious difference maker.[/quote]

Thats drunk talk !! I mean c'mon man. ST and the whole defense had a bad year. We know ST can cover, tackle, stay in position and stay healthy, considering how he plays, better than sanders. sanders is a very good safety but ST had a bad year, so I will say sanders was better [I]this[/I] year, but overall sanders is inferior to ST.

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[quote=Red Robert;275080][URL="http://www.redskins.com"]Washington Redskins[/URL]

Glad to see he gets in. Nice to see something positive in these dark times.[/quote]

doesn't deserve it. he needed to have a humbling off season, get hungry...i don't really blame him fully for his struggles, but he needs to know that his performance is not acceptable- and not up to par with any of the elite safeties in the league.

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[quote=SkinEmAll;275204]Thats drunk talk !! I mean c'mon man. ST and the whole defense had a bad year. We know ST can cover, tackle, stay in position and stay healthy, considering how he plays, better than sanders. sanders is a very good safety but ST had a bad year, so I will say sanders was better [I]this[/I] year, but overall sanders is inferior to ST.[/quote]

Inferior? No way. Sanders is a beast. I love the way he plays. Look at how he made Indy's defense better? You can't deny that.

Regarding Taylor? Prove me wrong next year. Play better. Cover better. Tackle better. Stop trying to knock people out all the time. Be more disciplined. Start to become more of a leader. Study more film. Whether ST wants to realize it or not he is one of our best players when he wants to be. I'm sooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of fans saying that he misses Ryan Clark. That his play slipped because Clark always got him in position. That is such a bunch of BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ST has been in this defense for a few years now. He knows where to be. And if he doesn't then shame on him and the coaches.

Look, I'm not knocking the guy. But like I said, as one of our best players, he needs to be more like Ed Reed or Brian Dawkins. Those guys make their defenses go. They are leaders. Can ST grow into that role? I guess time will tell. But he's never going to be the player we all know he can be taking orders from other players. Do you see Dawkins, Reed, Donavan Darious or Sanders being told where to line up? HELL NO.

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Congratulations Sean!! He deserved it more last year but I'll take it now.

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Bob Sanders is a good safety, but its easy to play safety when your team has a 20 point lead and dwight freeney.

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[quote=Red Robert;275080][URL="http://www.redskins.com"]Washington Redskins[/URL]

Glad to see he gets in. Nice to see something positive in these dark times.[/quote]

YAY! I'm so happy for him. All of the other O players are now like "Oh F*CK".. ST is coming....

LOL...

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[quote=BrunellMVP?;275218]doesn't deserve it. he needed to have a humbling off season, get hungry...i don't really blame him fully for his struggles, but he needs to know that his performance is not acceptable- and not up to par with any of the elite safeties in the league.[/quote]

He had the MOST tackels on the entire team. Maybe his play wasn't the best it's been, but he still deserves this!

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[quote=12thMan;275163]Tellya what, I'll take Taylor...and umm, you can keep Bob Sanders:)[/quote]

Honestly, I would rather have ST too becasue of his upside. But right now Sanders is better. That's all I'm sayin.

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ST is a game changer. He is a fairly rare thing today. In the mold of a Ronnie Lott. A safety that hits like a line backer.............an ass kickin' line backer. He is feared by those that travel our middle. You can see time and again in the play of the opposing recievers.
It is a statement about our 2006 D that he led the team in tackles.......a BAD statement. He was asked to do to many things on this team, to do them all well. He is PURE FOOTBALL. I wish I enjoyed what I do, as much as he does. He deserves to go. Congrats ST

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[QUOTE=Hog1;275249]ST is a game changer. He is a fairly rare thing today. In the mold of a Ronnie Lott. A safety that hits like a line backer.............an ass kickin' line backer. He is feared by those that travel our middle. You can see time and again in the play of the opposing recievers.
It is a statement about our 2006 D that he led the team in tackles.......a BAD statement. He was asked to do to many things on this team, to do them all well. He is PURE FOOTBALL. I wish I enjoyed what I do, as much as he does. He deserves to go. Congrats ST[/QUOTE]

ST could become the most dominant safety since Ronnie Lott. ST does sometimes change the outcome of games. ST does make opponents fear going across the middle and has an impact even when he isn't making tackles.

That said, ST got beat for a lot of plays. Stallworth killed him on a double-move for a long TD, Steven Jackson made him look silly on a long TD run in which Taylor was stumbling and bumbling and didn't even touch him. Taylor whiffed on Rams TE Dominique Byrd's first catch in the NFL and got beat for a TD. Moreover, ST only had ONE INT this season. I'm happy he's going, but I am not sure his play (or any other Redskins defender's) merited a Pro Bowl nod.

I'm not sure why people get all upset about the ST debate. I think everyone agrees that he has the potential to be the best safety in the league, wouldn't trade him for any other safety, and is happy he is going to Hawaii. I think everyone could also agree that, for whatever reason, his 2006 season was not exactly top-notch.

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I would agree, not his best year

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I don't like the message that this pro bowl recognition could give ST. I would not want him to start thinking he had a good season. No Redskin deserves the Pro bowl this year.

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Maybe NOW is the time to start working on an extension for him. :D

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So what's the argument against Samuels if we want to discuss nobody on this team deserving a Pro Bowl nod??

How about Cooley, I think we could argue that he "deserved" a nod more than Witten.

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I'm REALLY tired of Cooley getting shit on for Pro Bowl balloting. I think overall, he's a better TE than both Shockey and Witten. Had more TDs than Witten, more yards than Shockey, yet he STILL gets shafted.

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Not only that, his YPC is better than both of them.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;275271]So what's the argument against Samuels if we want to discuss nobody on this team deserving a Pro Bowl nod??

How about Cooley, I think we could argue that he "deserved" a nod more than Witten.[/QUOTE]

Cooley and Samuels definately "deserved" to go for two reasons: (1) objectively, they had damn good season; and (2) they had better seasons than almost all others at their respective positions.

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Surprisingly enough, Dockery was "statistically" one of the top guards in the league.

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weather you agree with it or not sean taylor is in the probowl.

does anybody know if there will be a skill competition this year?

if so i would like to see sean taylor in that!

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It seems like Samuels is quitely turning himself into a perennial Pro Bowler.

Year in and year out, he's fighting through injuries, some inconstistancies, yet he still makes it in.

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A friend tells me Taylor "cant tackle" but admitted he'd only seen the Giants game where Barber had his way with the SKins. Taylor, unlike the woeful Stanley Richard, can hit but always brings his man down. Plus dudes be dropping passes like hotpockets when he's back there. He is the Redskins best player hands down.

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Ham slam! Whasssuppppp!!!!!

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Wassup TMAN! hey where is the "Sign Peter John Ramos this offseason" thread??!!! Party John in the secondary, are you kidding me!!! Talk about poor sight lines!

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;275275]I'm REALLY tired of Cooley getting shit on for Pro Bowl balloting. I think overall, he's a better TE than both Shockey and Witten. Had more TDs than Witten, more yards than Shockey, yet he STILL gets shafted.[/quote]

We were 5-11. Bad teams usually don't get very many guys to the Pro Bowl.

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Yeah, I do know it's a popularity contest.

Still, Witten makes it even when the Cowboy suck donkey balls.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;275298]Yeah, I do know it's a popularity contest.

Still, Witten makes it even when the Cowboy suck donkey balls.[/quote]

LOL. I have not heard donkey balls before. That's a good one!

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;275299]LOL. I have not heard donkey balls before. That's a good one![/QUOTE]

What about monkey testes?

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Scrotal sail.

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Hey you party poopers...


Congrats Sean.

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roy williams and sean taylor

i wouldn't like to be a reciever going over the middle with those two

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Generally speaking, in these Pro Bowl games guys really don't try to lay the wood on anyone.

That being said, guys will still be nervous when they see that burgundy helmet dashing across the field.