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TheMalcolmConnection 08-24-2006 10:49 AM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
[IMG]http://www.he-man.de/toys/classic/pics/pic_ramman.jpg[/IMG]

Is this TJ's white brother?

MTK 08-24-2006 10:51 AM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;207551][IMG]http://www.he-man.de/toys/classic/pics/pic_ramman.jpg[/IMG]

Is this TJ's white brother?[/quote]

LOL I totally had that figure!

You could push his head down and push a button on the back to make him jump. He was built like a brick shithouse that's for sure.

TheMalcolmConnection 08-24-2006 10:57 AM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
Ram-Man baby!

Curiously enough, also my porn name.

TheMalcolmConnection 08-24-2006 10:58 AM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
Not to hijack yet ANOTHER thread, but do you remember all those specialty He-Man figures back in the day? Like Moss Man who smelled like moss, and all of Hordak's crew?

Damn, they don't make toys like that anymore.

724Skinsfan 08-24-2006 11:02 AM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;207556]Ram-Man baby!

Curiously enough, also my porn name.[/quote]

You just had to open up that door...

TheMalcolmConnection 08-24-2006 11:04 AM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
Then, I will close it.

Duckett is not going to piss off CP. :biggthump

And if anyone else wants to bitch about it, LaVar can tell them exactly what happens to people who bitch and whine.

artmonkforhallofamein07 08-24-2006 11:39 AM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
Well guys I am concerned about team chemistry in the backfield. I hope that all of these guys are still just wanting to win regardless of personal accolades. I don't think that we can say for sure that Rock or Betts are outta here yet. Honestly I think we can keep Betts, Sellers, Duckett, Portis, and Cartwright. That does mean that all the other camp backs are gone ( it kinda sucks b/c I thought Lumsden was going to work out as well as White JR. ). All I can do is hope that it works out for our team, of course I don't think this one player is going to ensure we go to the Playoffs.

MTK 08-24-2006 11:58 AM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;207557]Not to hijack yet ANOTHER thread, but do you remember all those specialty He-Man figures back in the day? Like Moss Man who smelled like moss, and all of Hordak's crew?

Damn, they don't make toys like that anymore.[/quote]

I loved Kobra Khan, that guy was a badass snake man, you could pull off his head, fill him with water and spray people in the grill.

[IMG]http://www.virtualtoychest.com/motu/motukobrakhanc.jpg[/IMG]

MTK 08-24-2006 11:59 AM

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Lumsden was never a threat to make the team IMO. He was a camp body that people fell in love with over one scrimmage. Another camp hero bites the dust.

TheMalcolmConnection 08-24-2006 12:06 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
[quote=Mattyk72;207577]I loved Kobra Khan, that guy was a badass snake man, you could pull off his head, fill him with water and spray people in the grill.[/quote]

Awesome. Don't even remember him. I remember having that Snake Mountain where you could change your voice by talking through that microphone.

MTK 08-24-2006 12:14 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;207584]Awesome. Don't even remember him. I remember having that Snake Mountain where you could change your voice by talking through that microphone.[/quote]

Yeah I had that too, my Mom freaking hated that thing. My brother and I were constantly screaming into that mic, making stupid noises, etc.

hesscl34 08-24-2006 12:18 PM

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[quote=724Skinsfan;207558]You just had to open up that door...[/quote]

YIKES! Don't want to know....

TheMalcolmConnection 08-24-2006 12:21 PM

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He said DOOR, not BACKdoor.

MightyJoeGibbs 08-24-2006 12:35 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;207551][IMG]http://www.he-man.de/toys/classic/pics/pic_ramman.jpg[/IMG]

Is this TJ's white brother?[/quote]

Wow, you just took me back to 1984 when all I did was play with this guy. Awesome. I feel like Im 4 when I see that.

MightyJoeGibbs 08-24-2006 12:36 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;207557]Not to hijack yet ANOTHER thread, but do you remember all those specialty He-Man figures back in the day? Like Moss Man who smelled like moss, and all of Hordak's crew?

Damn, they don't make toys like that anymore.[/quote]

Can you start a thread of toys when we were young? I dont remember the guys your speaking about.

MightyJoeGibbs 08-24-2006 12:37 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
[quote=Mattyk72;207577]I loved Kobra Khan, that guy was a badass snake man, you could pull off his head, fill him with water and spray people in the grill.

[IMG]http://www.virtualtoychest.com/motu/motukobrakhanc.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

I had that too man.

MightyJoeGibbs 08-24-2006 12:38 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
Does anyone wanna get their toys and come over and play, lol. Ill call my mom and see if you can stay for dinner, its stovetop night.

SmootSmack 08-24-2006 01:10 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;207546]I forgot all about that Falcons game against the Skins in 2003. Duckett was a madman in that game. I remember thinking then what a freak he was, nobody that big should be able to move like that.[/QUOTE]

He was on my fantasy team, but I refused to start him since he was playing the Redskins. That kind of hurt

TheMalcolmConnection 08-24-2006 01:39 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
[quote=MightyJoeGibbs;207627]Can you start a thread of toys when we were young? I dont remember the guys your speaking about.[/quote]

TAFKAS started a "I Love This Decade" thread, and it was funny as hell. Just do a search...

SmootSmack 08-24-2006 01:44 PM

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;207676]TAFKAS started a "I Love This Decade" thread, and it was funny as hell. Just do a search...[/QUOTE]

I also started a Favorite Toy thread

onebum 08-24-2006 02:52 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
Not gonna piss him off. He will worry about his TDs because he thinks they will always use TJ at the goal line, but he will happy with him as a teamate once he realizes Gibbs and crew won't screw him out of TDs.

He's their man, they aren't gonna steal TDs from him and upset him...hell, he's the #1 sure thing on the offense BECAUSE...does brunell still have it...does cambell have it...if not, will cambell get it...if its bad at QB, the recievers aren't sure things...and if its bad at QB the RBs will be used to make any possible weakness at QB a non factor.

GTripp0012 08-24-2006 04:01 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
Ladell Betts is a better back than Duckett. He's not getting cut. Cartwright got a new deal this offseason. Hes not getting cut. So unless someone comes calling for one of them, 4 backs will make the roster. Lumsden will be squaded, most likely. Assuming they all make the roster, all 3 of Portis' backups will see carries. It's important to keep Portis' carry total in the 300 range.

Hmm, I think I'm redoing my 53 man roster predictions.

GTripp0012 08-24-2006 04:07 PM

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[quote=Toast20622;207550]Duckett will probably be used on short yardage situations... how about a "wishbone" formation inside the 5: Duckett, Sellers, and Rock lined up behind Brunell, any one of them is an outstanding lead blocker, followed by another lead blocker followed by a runner who if hit can still make it across the goal line from the 5.[/quote]Haha. I like the way you think. This isnt anywhere near a legal formation though.

scowan 08-24-2006 04:19 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
[quote=GTripp0012;207747]Ladell Betts is a better back than Duckett. He's not getting cut. Cartwright got a new deal this offseason. Hes not getting cut. So unless someone comes calling for one of them, 4 backs will make the roster. Lumsden will be squaded, most likely. Assuming they all make the roster, all 3 of Portis' backups will see carries. It's important to keep Portis' carry total in the 300 range.

Hmm, I think I'm redoing my 53 man roster predictions.[/quote]

I would love to see Portis's number of carries go down, but his YPC go up. 300 carries equates to 18-19 carries a game, which would be great. T.J. could get 5-10 a game all of the 3 down and 1's and "spelling" Portis for a few carries. Betts is still our KR guy and Cartwright is still a great special teamer. My only problem is that I have Portis as a keeper in my Fantasy League, and his numbers will go down. But hey, without T.J, Portis might get hurt this year and be out, not just limited, so I am OK with this trade.

onebum 08-24-2006 04:22 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
[quote=GTripp0012;207750]Haha. I like the way you think. This isnt anywhere near a legal formation though.[/quote]

I thought since that would leave 2 TE/WRs/whatevers to lineup on the line outside the tackles I would be a legal formation? Not saying I like it(too many bodies in too little space, big bodies) Just wondering why it wouldn't be legal. Sorry if its a dumb question pertaining to formations, I'd rather find out the facts now rather than wonder and not know.

I would put several other guys out there before Rock to lead block/carry starting with Cooley, White Jr., Nemo, even Faria and Johnson for blocking, not sure about carrying.

That Guy 08-24-2006 09:43 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
portis shouldn't be mad. he's hurt and still our #1 when healthy. betts should be mad, because duckett is clearly a better player.

STPainmaker 08-25-2006 12:35 AM

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[quote=onebum;207759]I thought since that would leave 2 TE/WRs/whatevers to lineup on the line outside the tackles I would be a legal formation? Not saying I like it(too many bodies in too little space, big bodies) Just wondering why it wouldn't be legal. Sorry if its a dumb question pertaining to formations, I'd rather find out the facts now rather than wonder and not know.

I would put several other guys out there before Rock to lead block/carry starting with Cooley, White Jr., Nemo, even Faria and Johnson for blocking, not sure about carrying.[/quote]

As far as the formation goes as long as there is seven men on the line and the closest man to the sideline being an eligible receiver of some sort its cool. So a full house backfield is legal. I guess.

onebum 08-25-2006 01:30 AM

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[quote=STPainmaker;207860]As far as the formation goes as long as there is seven men on the line and the closest man to the sideline being an eligible receiver of some sort its cool. So a full house backfield is legal. I guess.[/quote]


Thats what I thought, didn't know if the rules had changed though. Someone in atlanta not too many years ago used to run these types of formations, Glanville maybe? Someone smart help me figure out who please. He'd have the 5 moveable guys all in the middle, sometimes wishbone with 2 TEs, sometimes an I with an offset rb and 2 TEs, sometimes wishbone with one TE on the line, one WR out wide....and I don't know why i'm babbleing about it so i'll stop now.

illdefined 08-25-2006 02:44 PM

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writing this post has made me ok with this trade. before this i hated it.

Sellers wasn't even told, he found out from the radio. after looking like a TJ Duckett in the Jets game only 30lbs HEAVIER. after all his TDs last year, and the Saunders talk about expanding his role even further, Sellers must've felt like he just found out his winning lottery ticket was fake. and he EARNED that ticket.

then CP, well yeah he's a team guy like eveyone's said. and i think he genuinely feels bad for Mike and Ladell because they all felt good about their crew.

CP is also a die-hard competitor though, and he is supremely confident about his abilities. "I'm a bruiser too" was his initial comment, and he's been repeating all offseason how he's 220 lbs (everywhere else says 212 or even 205). when Portis reacted to that, it was because he knows he just as likely to get a 3rd and 1 as Duckett (by finding and jumping into a hole Duckett wouldn't even see) and doesn't want to be automatically counted out in those situations.

But Portis has to feel like that. He has to weigh 220lbs in his head to convince himself, because that's honestly how he plays. dude has absolutely no fear, as every blitzer who's played against the Redskins knows well. Just ask the guy who's helmet he knocked off in the first preseason game, before he bodyslammed the interceptor to the ground. That's Portis, bless him.

Duckett can't touch Portis as a producer, or presence, on this team. the possibilities of Portis on the field are just so vast, whether its rushing, catching, or even pass blocking. and yes, off the field too, in costume and keeping the locker room bursting in laughter.

I've also come to realize Duckett isn't a replacement for Sellers. because Duckett isn't used to crushing people WITHOUT carrying the ball. whether its lead blocking or busting wedges on special teams. and Duckett isn't the surprise to defenses that Sellers is on the goaline or as a sudden ball carrier.

that preseason game was a wake up call of sorts, cuz Gibbs realized how Portis playing like that can't last, especially as he gets older. and he got a talented, young player who's everything Portis's backup is not. RELIABLE. he also happens to be way more of the change of pace in the big category than Ladell ever was. It was solid insurance, and a nice new offensive option all in one player.

all i have left on my mind concerning this trade is what cornerback we can get for Ladell.

MTK 08-25-2006 02:59 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
Personally I'm starting to think we'll keep Betts.

Not just because Gibbs said so, but let's think about it a second. I really like the comparison to our RB crew of 1991. Byner was the main back, Ervins was the change of pace back, and Riggs was the goal line and short yardage back. Let's look at what that trio did stats wise.

Byner: 274 carries for 1048 yards, 3.8 yards per carry, 5 TDs, 34 catches for 308 yards, 9.1 per catch.

Ervins: 145 carries for 680 yards, 4.7 yards per carry, 3 TDs, 16 catches for 181 yards, 11.3 per catch, 1 TD.

Riggs: 78 carries for 248 yards, 3.2 yards per carry, 11 TDs, 1 catch for 5 yards.

Add all of that up and you have an overall production from the backfield of:

497 carries for 1976 yards, 3.975 yards per rush, 19 TDs, 51 receptions for 494 yards, 1 TD.

That's a big-time backfield folks, and there's no way you can get that kind of production from one back let alone two typically speaking.

illdefined 08-25-2006 03:12 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
I don't remember how Ervins was such a change of pace from Byner. They were both athletic types, Ervins always just came out fresher. I loved watching Ervins, he had great instincts, i don't know why he never started here or somewhere later.

The whole thing about Duckett is that he's a little of both, pace and size, and he can play both of those roles.

Ladell is a luxury at this point, and we have big needs elsewhere.

MTK 08-25-2006 03:30 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
Byner was more of the between the tackles runner while Ervins had some nice speed and agility to get outside. Riggs was just a bull.

illdefined 08-25-2006 03:39 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
yeah Riggs was the other role i meant when i was talking about Duckett btw, hoping that was clear. CP as Ervins and Duckett as Byner/Riggs then I suppose. alot has changed since 91 though, hard to believe Atlanta has been number 1 rushing team two years in a row (Atlanta?) with Dunn and Duckett.

MTK 08-25-2006 03:46 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
[quote=illdefined;208112]yeah Riggs was the other role i meant when i was talking about Duckett btw, hoping that was clear. CP as Ervins and Duckett as Byner/Riggs then I suppose. alot has changed since 91 though, hard to believe Atlanta has been number 1 rushing team two years in a row (Atlanta?) with Dunn and Duckett.[/quote]

Dunn, Ducket & don't forget about Vick.

illdefined 08-25-2006 03:48 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;208116]Dunn, Ducket & don't forget about Vick.[/QUOTE]

right, but one of those years was without him.

MTK 08-25-2006 03:53 PM

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[quote=illdefined;208117]right, but one of those years was without him.[/quote]

That was 3 years ago in the 2003 season.

illdefined 08-25-2006 03:55 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
you sure? wasn't that two years ago?

DaveyFoSho 08-25-2006 03:58 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
yea 3....04 ray lewis 05 mcnabb 03 vick....:-) madden curse never fails

illdefined 08-25-2006 04:02 PM

Re: Is Duckett's presence going to piss off CP??
 
[QUOTE=DaveyFoSho;208123]yea 3....04 ray lewis 05 mcnabb 03 vick....:-) madden curse never fails[/QUOTE]

ha. if only they put Eli Manning this year. But Madden always does a year ahead..ah nevermind. so its proper to call a season by the superbowl date got it.

DaveyFoSho 08-25-2006 04:06 PM

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ahha yea so technically it was 05 lewis 06 mcnabb 07 SA 04 vick..but they were all hurt the year before....


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