Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

I guess I just lost a buck...to MYSELF.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

Gimme a liter'a cola

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

We don't sell liters here.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

It's French for 'gimme my f'in cola before I vous F'in' lip!"

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;202395]Betts is too important to our RB depth to trade him.

Think about it, if Portis went down would you want Cartwright becoming the featured guy?? Please.

Once again, Betts is too important to trade. I agree with Schneed 110%. There's no way we deal him.[/QUOTE]


Well Matty you know I am a big Betts guy, but if a #1 is offered [and I don't believe it will] I would have to do it, I feel we have enough quality depth behind Betts if anything happens to Portis to succeed, I think the best that would be offered is a #2 though, I would have to think about making that trade, but if I truly believe it would be a high #2 I probably would do it, but I would have to be very confident in the backups to pull that trigger.

If Portis went down I don't know if we would have a featured back persay, we would get a strong dose of running back by committee.

But as you stated we don't do much with our picks anyway. I seriously doubt theres anything more than speculation from some reporter on this story.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

I don't think anyone would give a 2nd for Ladell Betts.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

they're probably pretty damn desperate, but I have to agree with you. Especially since it looks like someone like Chris Brown (who I swear runs like a ballerina) and/or Thomas Jones might be shopped around soon.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

Let's snap back to reality for just a minute. A first round offer for Betts isn't going to happen. It's just not going to happen.

A second round offer is almost as improbable. There are more proven backs out there (Thomas Jones) that could be had.

Now we're talking about a third round, and I think that's the absolute best we could hope for, but I don't even see that happening.

This trade simply isn't going to happen.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

Exactly...Betts will be backing up C-Po.

"See? Where'd you learn that, Cheech? Drug school?"

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;202548]Let's snap back to reality for just a minute. A first round offer for Betts isn't going to happen. It's just not going to happen.

A second round offer is almost as improbable. There are more proven backs out there (Thomas Jones) that could be had.

Now we're talking about a third round, and I think that's the absolute best we could hope for, but I don't even see that happening.

This trade simply isn't going to happen.[/QUOTE]

We are not looking to trade betts in the first place so why would we just settle for a third. We have the chips in our favor to ask what we want so a second is not unreasonable

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

I wouldn't trade Betts for anything less than a 1st rounder which, as has been noted, is a pipe dream. We're too close, on paper at least, to the "big game" to trade a starting-caliber tailback for anything less.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

"Desperation is a stinky cologne" and the Jets are fairly desperate.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

what I would take in return for Betts is, 12 ski mask's, a case of smoke bomb's the good kind, and banana peels, lot's of banana peels.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

[quote=BDBohnzie;202582]"Desperation is a stinky cologne" and the Jets are fairly desperate.[/quote]
Damn I'm proud to know you, fantastic way to sneek that one in there (that's what she said [haven't used that one in like 2 years])

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

I say we trade Betts for Ramsey!!! I mean if Ramsey can just get in the right system......

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

[quote=offiss;202639]what I would take in return for Betts is, 12 ski mask's, a case of smoke bomb's the good kind, and banana peels, lot's of banana peels.[/quote]And a 2nd.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

[quote=NM Redskin;202650]I say we trade Betts for Ramsey!!! I mean if Ramsey can just get in the right system......[/quote]

How about Betts for Coles straight up?

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

trade betts for vilma (kind of wishful thinking)

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

Why stop at Coles or Vilma? We might as well ask for Ellis, Ferguson, and Mangold.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

[quote=Schneed10;202387]There is no way Gibbs would ever ever ever ever ever ever ever trade Ladell Betts. Unless it was for two first rounders.

These rumors are stemming from either the Jets' front office who may simply be brainstorming, trying to think of teams with great RB depth; or from the Jets' fans/media who remember the recent trades and deals between the 'Skins and Jets, and think they might partner up for a deal once again.

As soon as this issue is presented to Gibbs, I can 100% guarantee you his answer will be something to the effect of "Ladell Betts is not available."

End of story.[/quote]


So in other words Ladell Betts is a franchise player? Has he ever played a full season (in a backup role I might add)? If they offered a proven offensive lineman, I would pull the trigger immediately.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;202666]Why stop at Coles or Vilma? We might as well ask for Ellis, Ferguson, and Mangold.[/quote]

Lol. Hell if they give us Pennington and cash we might give up Thrash....

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

if they offer something it isn't going to be something horrible. They need someone and they went out and said they wanted betts. We have the upper hand here so i expect something closer to what we want and further from what they want to give up. I am thinking a third but i wouldn't do it for a third.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

This is just a hope for the J-E-T-S. All I have been reading is that Saunders loves Betts. I liked Betts and his consistency in college at Iowa and he'll be on the field more now. We're not trading him but the back up RB job is heating up with the rookies. Betts is our guy if anything happens to Mr. Portis.

[quote=Mattyk72;202386]What do you guys make of this? I say there's no way we trade him unless the Jets come with an outstanding offer.

[URL="http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/story/442453p-372653c.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Betts on Jets' radar[/COLOR][/URL]
August 11
New York Daily News (scroll down): "With Curtis Martin's career in jeopardy, the Jets are eager to see if Derrick Blaylock and Cedric Houston can do the job. If not, they almost certainly will trade for a veteran. The Redskins' Ladell Betts has emerged as a possibility."[/quote]

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;202433]Adrian Peterson[/quote]

Oh hell yes. I am not aware of his skills recieving but running I like him.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

Saunders has expressed Betts to the media for praise.
Betts is the only brusiing back on the roster.
I doubt KCarter or Lumsden have moved up to a replacement type of role.
Rock couldnt carry the workload.
Betts is too valued, yet throw in Jacobs and what could we be shopping for?
Jets should have never let LJordan go.
Every team needs a quick speed guy and a short yardage bulldozing bruiser.
FB in Saunders ball dont really rush do they? Richardson didnt rush.
Craziest thing of all is that the Jets and Skins have been in bed for a long time.
Riggins, Monk, Thomas, Hall, Morton, Coles to and fro, moss, ramsey, blah blah

The Skins aren't the only team with a back too many. Why would the Skins breakup whats going on this is the funniest rumor I have heard. Trade for Vilma and go to 3-4 then were talking.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

dont make anything out of that....break up our 1 2 punch...i think not.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

To answer MightyJoeGibbs' question, if we do package Betts and Jacobs in a deal do you suppose the Jets might send us [URL="http://www.photohosting.info/uploads/b213eff820.jpg"]this?[/URL]

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

[quote=TAFKAS;202696]To answer MightyJoeGibbs' question, if we do package Betts and Jacobs in a deal do you suppose the Jets might send us [URL="http://www.photohosting.info/uploads/b213eff820.jpg"]this?[/URL][/quote]

Now that's a deal! I think we can tolerate the Jet green!

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

[quote=Schneed10;202394]1) Player for player trades in the NFL are extremely rare. If we traded Betts, it would be for picks. But we won't trade him because...

2) You do realize Joe Gibbs is the coach of the 'Skins right? He values depth soooo much. Rock Cartwright is alright at times, and Lumsden is looking good in camp, but in the end do you see Gibbs trusting the backup job to either of those guys? No way in hell.

3) Saunders LOVES Ladell Betts. He has said that Betts is capable of big things in this league, and compared his skill set to that of Priest Holmes (not a quality comparison, just a style comparison). Saunders has said that Ladell is a complete back, capable of running hard, catching passes reliably, and picking up blitzes consistently. He has also said that Betts and Portis have unique skill sets, and in certain situations, he'll put them both in the same backfield to create matchup problems with the defense.

Just pay attention to the coaching staff. There's no way they're trading this guy.[/quote]

If we're talking about predictions, then I'd agree its unlikely a trade will be made. And I say that w/the confidence that we would ask for too much. But if the jets are desparate enough & offer us a starter w/a contract we can deal with, its definitely worth doing. I say that because I have a feeling betts will get some $ next year & it won't be w/us.
I hope he stays & re-signs w/us. Sure the coaching staff loves him, but they also have to deal w/the contract issue, something that Gibbs has shown he's willing to be fairly shrewd with, e.g. Pierce, Smoot, Coles, Lavar.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

tafkas, if she plays center, i want to be the quarterback:)

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

Here are some, to me, eye opening highlights of Jesse's CFL season last year:

[URL="http://www.jesselumsden.net/lumsdenautumn2005.wmv"][COLOR=#cc0000]http://www.jesselumsden.net/lumsdenautumn2005.wmv[/COLOR][/URL]

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

[quote=Oakland Red;202719]Here are some, to me, eye opening highlights of Jesse's CFL season last year:[/quote]

wow he lookes pretty good.
i thought that vkevin carter did pretty good in the scrimmage too

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

how about this: betts and sean taylor for coles, pennington, ramsey, vilma, and six other no name players!!!

fair trade off, in my eyes

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

Betts is the next L.J. Theres no way we trade him. They dont got nothin we need. maybe a punter, but theres no way we trade him for a punter

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

[quote=Oakland Red;202719]Here are some, to me, eye opening highlights of Jesse's CFL season last year:

[URL="http://www.jesselumsden.net/lumsdenautumn2005.wmv"][COLOR=#cc0000]http://www.jesselumsden.net/lumsdenautumn2005.wmv[/COLOR][/URL][/quote]

Thanks dude I enjoyed that. I want to see Lumsden begin to work his way into the rotation this year. The down side to his game seems he runs TOO upright and hes taller. Still this kid has that something I think that we want to have him do for us.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

[quote=TAFKAS;202696]To answer MightyJoeGibbs' question, if we do package Betts and Jacobs in a deal do you suppose the Jets might send us [URL="http://www.photohosting.info/uploads/b213eff820.jpg"]this?[/URL][/quote]

Eh yo, that is not the body of a nun. I will refrain from expressing verbally what enters my mind. Just send the paperwork over to me.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

I would maybe take a 2nd for Betts. If they take jacobs with betts i'll settle for a 3rd.

Seriously i would take a 7th in the 08' draft for jacobs because i think he is off the team anyways. I just think he will be really good when he goes somewhere else.

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

does J.L. actually have a chance to make the team?

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

[quote=BigSKINBauer;202744]Seriously i would take a 7th in the 08' draft for jacobs because i think he is off the team anyways. I just think he will be really good when he goes somewhere else.[/quote]


seems like that always happens doesn't it?
like santana for example

Re: Jets interested in Betts?
 

[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;202678]So in other words Ladell Betts is a franchise player? Has he ever played a full season (in a backup role I might add)? If they offered a proven offensive lineman, I would pull the trigger immediately.[/QUOTE]

I don't think anyone is saying that Betts is a great franchise back. However, I think the general consensus is that we should not give up a key player just when we seem to have everything in place for a Super Bowl run. He might not be a starter, but he is an excellent change-up back who could step up if, God forbid, Portis went down.

Also, I don't know of any young, proven offensive linemen on the Jets roster.