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Re: Washington trades for Deebo Samuel
[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1373297]I'd say the pro's outweigh the con's. He's only 29, potentially years left in him and likely a 2-3 year deal anyway. An extension would mitigate his 2025 cap numbers and he wants a SB opportunity like any other player, so should be willing to do a deal. He offers something we don't really have, an every down air and ground threat and takes the pressure of Scary. If he wasn't of the right temperament AP and DQ wouldn't have wanted him so...
Con's are he's not been as productive last couple of seasons and been out 4 games, but every likelihood he was playing hurt, so a full offseason of recovery (like Lattimore) and hopefully he's back to his best.[/QUOTE] Hate to keep beating a dead horse, but he had one of his most promising years season before last. Last year the whole team sucked including his quarterback. 4 games over two years is pretty damn good. Wouldn’t call that a con. I see no cons. |
Re: Washington trades for Deebo Samuel
[quote=punch it in;1373294]A few years ago? Or two years ago? Now he has a real quarterback.
Missed 4 games over the last two years. He is 29. Kind of whiner because he got in Jake moodys face ? Come on. Dude had 12 touchdowns the year before last. For a fifth rounder it isn’t just a steal it is grand theft.[/quote] 12 td's the year before last. In football terms though that's not the guy you're getting in 2025. It's just not. I just can't get excited for a 29 year old wr that's coming off a 51 catch season for 670 yards and 3 td's. Dyami could easily get those numbers if given the chance as a full time #2. I feel like w/ that 5th rounder perhaps you get some help on defense. Maybe not a starter but a roll type player. We need defense in the worst way, not a 29 year old wr w/ average stats. |
Re: Washington trades for Deebo Samuel
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1373300]12 td's the year before last. In football terms though that's not the guy you're getting in 2025. It's just not.
I just can't get excited for a 29 year old wr that's coming off a 51 catch season for 670 yards and 3 td's. Dyami could easily get those numbers if given the chance as a full time #2. I feel like w/ that 5th rounder perhaps you get some help on defense. Maybe not a starter but a roll type player. We need defense in the worst way, not a 29 year old wr w/ average stats.[/QUOTE] We will get help on defense, but getting JD another weapon was on the list. Whatever Deebo did in SF with Brock Purdy and Jimmy G is childs play compared to what he will do with JD. |
Re: Washington trades for Deebo Samuel
[QUOTE=punch it in;1373284]With a real quarterback and KK’s scheme I have two words.
DEAD LY[/QUOTE]Who is Lee and how did he die? Sent from my SM-S711U using Tapatalk |
Re: Washington trades for Deebo Samuel
Yeah, Samuel might not be the same player as he was in 2021 but it certainly doesn't mean that he will not do much for us. Keim said that Samuel is like a supercharged Zaccheaus, I have no doubt Kliff will find ways to maximize Samuel's skills that will put the offense to a next level. The defenses won't be able to put all focus on McLaurin anymore - this alone will help the offense greatly.
Don't forget, the 5th round pick we gave up is worth closer to 6th round pick than it is to 4th round pick. This is definitely a win-win situation for all three parties. |
Re: Washington trades for Deebo Samuel
[quote=punch it in;1373303]We will get help on defense, but getting JD another weapon was on the list. Whatever Deebo did in SF with Brock Purdy and Jimmy G is childs play compared to what he will do with JD.[/quote]
I just disagree; his numbers here won't be any better. And Purdy is not some trash QB either. |
Re: Washington trades for Deebo Samuel
[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1373304]Who is Lee and how did he die?
Sent from my SM-S711U using Tapatalk[/QUOTE] A yankee laid him in his grave. |
Re: Washington trades for Deebo Samuel
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1373306]I just disagree; his numbers here won't be any better. And Purdy is not some trash QB either.[/QUOTE]
Well we will just have to hope I am right for once in my life. Lol. |
Re: Washington trades for Deebo Samuel
Good luck finding a 5th rounder that will give us what DS could bring. Can’t wait to see him in this KK offense with a top notch QB, nothing against Purdy but he’s not even close to JD.
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Re: Washington trades for Deebo Samuel
Last season did we have the Bobby Wagner or Zach Ertz from their prime/SB years?
No! They were good enough and HEALTHY enough and their leadership was important. Deebo’s health is the key, because Deebo is a physical monster when healthy. I have no question if healthy Debo will be good enough. Plus we needed a big WR. Another piece of the puzzle. I like that this FO is getting physical punch you in the mouth players. Keep going. We now need DL and OL maulers. |
Re: Washington trades for Deebo Samuel
Like the trade a lot. Deebo is a gamer and is lethal with yac. He can carry the rock also. Wondering if Peters wasn't feeling the wrs in the draft a ton. Deebo can bring it and is strong as heck too and shifty. Will be fun. I could honestly see him playing at a high level for another 3 years.
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Re: Washington trades for Deebo Samuel
[quote=punch it in;1373308]Well we will just have to hope I am right for once in my life. Lol.[/quote]
At the end of the day we all want it to work! |
Re: Washington trades for Deebo Samuel
[quote=MTK;1373309]Good luck finding a 5th rounder that will give us what DS could bring. Can’t wait to see him in this KK offense with a top notch QB, nothing against Purdy but he’s not even close to JD.[/quote]
You already have guys on the team that can give you that same production that don't cost 21 million against the cap and you keep our 5th rounder. Remember what the late great Bill Walsh said, he'd rather have guys off his team a year early vs a year too late. I think the 49ers in this case did just that. On top of that, Kyle and Lynch are some of the sharpest guys around. I believe they know when the time is right to move on from a player. We'll see, hoping Debo can get back to his old form. I feel like they're making these risky trades ( Lattimore as well) because they have JD on a rookie deal. Can we go get Garrett next? :-) |
Re: Washington trades for Deebo Samuel
We’re talking about a 5th rounder for a guy (who’s had high level success) playing for a new deal. The risk is well worth the potential reward.
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Re: Washington trades for Deebo Samuel
I am psyched some here have some reservations on this trade, but it kinda shows wounds from yhe past. Deebo is easily a legit #2 on any team and certainly ours where we have a bunch of 3 and 4s. Yes, you could argue Brown could develop and I hope they extend him, but one thing to realize about deebo, is he improves both the passing AND running game. No other WR available (or maybe draftable) can clearly do that consistantly. In a way, he makes it feasible to not have to draft a wr and rb. My only concern is health. I would still extend him along with terry for 3 years. This is a very good acquisition indeed. Now we can focus on oline and defense, anything else on offense is GRAVY
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