Re: By Popular Demand. Should the Skins FIRE Jay Gruden? Thread
 

It's funny you bring this up because this is currently a topic being discussed on the Junkies this morning. I have to agree with them on the fact they don't believe he's the long term answer for the Redskins to get them over the hump. They don't blame him for this year due to the injuries, but have seen enough in the bad decision making to know he's not the answer. That's pretty much how I feel.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1181996][B][I]Dan won't fire Bruce[/I][/B], the Allen name is too prestige in DC. Whatever is happening right now isn't working. Where is the bright spot even at for this team? We look like the Giants, with huge Q?S next yr too.[/quote]

This is the problem right here. The team will never succeed if Dan doesn't fire Bruce Allen.

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[quote=MTK;1181995]No, stop.[/quote]

A. Greed.

Yeah he made mistakes and I can understand putting repeating crucial mistakes in critical moments on the HC.
But I really don't think he's the problem.

I think he got us trending in the right direction.
Just a little bit less injuries and a little bit less of shooting ourselves in the foot and we are a really solid team.
I mean up until the end we should have beaten the Saints while being injured as F...

Yeah D s*cked last night. But look we just don't have the bodies to stop the run right now. This is not Gruden.

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I'd love to keep a coach for 10-15 years but u have to win for that to happen

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Two people I would fire, Allen and the special teams coach Kowitca (bucket pisser) I would hire Brian Mitchell as the replacement, he saidnhe would do it.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1182005]It's funny you bring this up because this is currently a topic being discussed on the Junkies this morning. I have to agree with them on the fact they don't believe he's the long term answer for the Redskins to get them over the hump. They don't blame him for this year due to the injuries, but have seen enough in the bad decision making to know he's not the answer. That's pretty much how I feel.[/quote]

Yep he's another Norv Turner, someone that can get 10 wins every so often but mainly a 7 or 8 win guy

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[quote=metalskins;1182006]This is the problem right here. The team will never succeed if Dan doesn't fire Bruce Allen.[/quote]

It won't with Dan period apparently. Dude is a damn curse, I know it sounds dumb but its hard to not think that way

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2-6 Vs Dallas (lost 4 straight)....welll....bye

That record is all that needs to be said. Hard to win your division if you're one teams personal bitch and another team is the Eagles. He gone!!!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1182010]Yep he's another Norv Turner, someone that can get 10 wins every so often but mainly a 7 or 8 win guy[/quote]

Except, Norv Turner would get 7 or 8 wins with having most of his team healthy. Norv would take a 14-2 team and turn them into a 10-6 team, and eventually an 8-8 team. Norv never had to deal with the amount of injuries, at least not from what I remember, like what Gruden has had to deal with this year. And Norv had a better GM to work with.

Gruden hasn't been dealt a great hand. He's lost two 1000 yard receivers. His 1000 yard tight end never plays. He's went through running backs like they're disposable. The entire offensive line is injured. His number one draft pick out on IR. Other key members of the defense injured. Poor special teams play. Yet, Gruden has kept the team fighting hard, but eventually there's just too much to overcome. Firing Gruden won't fix anything.

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[url=http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/what-hell-going-brian-mitchell-beyond-embarrassed-redskins-performance?utm_content=bufferdafa1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer]'What the hell is going on?' Brian Mitchell beyond embarrassed by Redskins' performance | NBC Sports Washington[/url]

Re: By Popular Demand. Should the Skins FIRE Jay Gruden? Thread
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1182014]2-6 Vs Dallas (lost 4 straight)....welll....bye

That record is all that needs to be said. Hard to win your division if you're one teams personal bitch and another team is the Eagles. He gone!!![/quote]

Dak is 4-0 vs us lol that is so sad, he owns us too. I hate this team sometimes

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[quote=metalskins;1182015]Except, Norv Turner would get 7 or 8 wins with having most of his team healthy. Norv would take a 14-2 team and turn them into a 10-6 team, and eventually an 8-8 team. Norv never had to deal with the amount of injuries, at least not from what I remember, like what Gruden has had to deal with this year. And Norv had a better GM to work with.

Gruden hasn't been dealt a great hand. He's lost two 1000 yard receivers. His 1000 yard tight end never plays. He's went through running backs like they're disposable. The entire offensive line is injured. His number one draft pick out on IR. Other key members of the defense injured. Poor special teams play. Yet, Gruden has kept the team fighting hard, but eventually there's just too much to overcome. Firing Gruden won't fix anything.[/quote]

I don't know that we'll ever see a 14-2 skins team again, I'm 30 and I damn near have given up hope the rest of my life.

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Im not sold anymore, either. Time to move on.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1182016][url=http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/what-hell-going-brian-mitchell-beyond-embarrassed-redskins-performance?utm_content=bufferdafa1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer]'What the hell is going on?' Brian Mitchell beyond embarrassed by Redskins' performance | NBC Sports Washington[/url][/quote]

I'd hire mitchell. Absolutely.

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[quote=Meks;1182020]I'd hire mitchell. Absolutely.[/quote]

Me too, he has the fire to make this team good again.