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[quote=punch it in;1126212]As for DJax injury woes I agree. As for an overhaul of the entire WR corp - one that appeared to be sort of decent just a few weeks ago .... Maybe a real QB would help?[/quote]

Comes down to 1)economics 2)age 3)rebuilding team and 4)his guys. Crowder and Ross, probably safe.

When McC gets together with his new HC and OC, they will come up with a plan.

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[quote=Chico23231;1126210]The Washington Post's Mike Jones expects the Redskins to release DeSean Jackson in the offseason.

Yes, we're already talking about next year for the 2-4 Redskins, who are in last place in the NFC East. Jackson has one year left on his contract after this season and is set to count $9.25 million against the cap. The Redskins can save $6.75 million by releasing him. They can save another $8 million by releasing Pierre Garcon. Jones expects GM Scot McCloughan to "overhaul" the receiving corps. Jackson turns 29 in December and has proven unreliable this year.

Per rotoworld....kinda like i was saying the other day...Garcon, DJax, Roberts, even Grant...WR corp gonna be gone next year.[/quote]

No brainer, they're all gone and should be. We need a red zone target, someone 6-4.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1126214]No brainer, they're all gone and should be. We need a red zone target, someone 6-4.[/quote]

I really like the kid from Notre Dame, Will Fuller. Cincy free agent Marvin Jones would be another target. Combine him with Rick Ross, Crowder and another draft pick...boom.

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Im not going to go next season just yet. We played pretty well up until last weeks second half. Only we lose a guy to a hammy and he misses several weeks? Wtf? Is Trent back? Reed? Dhall? I mean other teams lose key players with seemingly worse injuries and they miss limited action. Big Ben coming back soon. Romo broke his collar bone and he will be back before D-Jax probably? Wtf? Im going to take a deep breath pray for a win on sunday. We beat the Bucs - doable. Panthers beat the Eagles - doable. Cowboys play the Giants. We are either tied for first place, or a game out.

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Well, this kinda says something
From ESPN gamehq
[QUOTE]Injury Report
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
[B]No injured players
[/B]
Washington Redskins
NAME, POS STATUS DATE
Jordan Reed, TE Out October 19
DeSean Jackson, WR Out October 19
Chris Thompson, RB Questionable October 19
Bashaud Breeland, CB Probable October 18
Pierre Garcon, WR Probable October 18
Andre Roberts, WR Probable October 18
Matt Jones, RB Day-to-day October 18[/QUOTE]

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People hating on DJax need to step back for 1 minute. His game is first built on speed, and shiftiness. A hamstring injury might just affect that kinda guy more than a DL. There are a lot of players in the NFL that have hamstring issues. And they can linger. On the last 2 days injury reports there are at least 15 players who have or are dealing with an ongoing hamstring issue. That's why you need back up players...

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@john_keim: Redskins tight end Jordan Reed said he's "100 percent" and will play Sunday vs. Tampa Bay. Reed has missed the... [url]https://t.co/CQiIpxGsbH[/url]

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1126221]People hating on DJax need to step back for 1 minute. His game is first built on speed, and shiftiness. A hamstring injury might just affect that kinda guy more than a DL. There are a lot of players in the NFL that have hamstring issues. And they can linger. On the last 2 days injury reports there are at least 15 players who have or are dealing with an ongoing hamstring issue. That's why you need back up players...[/QUOTE]


Just for the record I personally wasnt hating on DJax just our dumb luck with injuries. Especially his. I know that he is a burner and it is more bothersome to him, but I keep thinking he is coming back. Sucks to hear every week he aint.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1126221]People hating on DJax need to step back for 1 minute. His game is first built on speed, and shiftiness. A hamstring injury might just affect that kinda guy more than a DL. There are a lot of players in the NFL that have hamstring issues. And they can linger. On the last 2 days injury reports there are at least 15 players who have or are dealing with an ongoing hamstring issue. That's why you need back up players...[/quote]

I just think with Jackson he's getting near 30. I'd probably say his best years are behind him and we might need to spend the money he's making elsewhere. WR's are like RB's, they're a dime a dozen.

Wr's that are making near 10 million better be healthy and they better be putting up serious numbers. Not the case w/ Dax.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1126225]I just think with Jackson he's getting near 30. I'd probably say his best years are behind him and we might need to spend the money he's making elsewhere. WR's are like RB's, they're a dime a dozen.

Wr's that are making near 10 million better be healthy and they better be putting up serious numbers. Not the case w/ Dax.[/quote]

I get that we most likely won't keep him going forward, and we hopefully can use this time to see if Ross can step into his shoes. I just think what I perceived as hyper critical reviews of him aren't really warranted. When he's on the field he makes plays. And if a hamstring is hurt, for a player in his position that can be a lingering issue.

Again giving SM praise in that he drafted guys that could possibly take DJax's place after this year, it's just a shame that we don't get DJax on the field while they mature. It's not worth saying DJax is a bum or other things like that.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1126221]People hating on DJax need to step back for 1 minute. His game is first built on speed, and shiftiness. A hamstring injury might just affect that kinda guy more than a DL. There are a lot of players in the NFL that have hamstring issues. And they can linger. On the last 2 days injury reports there are at least 15 players who have or are dealing with an ongoing hamstring issue. That's why you need back up players...[/quote]

Understandable....the problem is Jackson is earning $8-9 million this season....money is beneficial for DeSean but not the team...a team wants to spend loaded cash on a player that's playing not on a player who is perpetually inactive.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1126227]Understandable....the problem is Jackson is earning $8-9 million this season....money is beneficial for DeSean but not the team...a team wants to spend loaded cash on a player that's playing not on a player who is perpetually inactive.[/quote]

And how much did the Patriots spend for Brady the year he was out? or How much did Pittsburgh spend when Big Ben was suspended? You make the contracts, and players play, but when they have a legitimate injury, then that just sucks, nothing more nothing less. The Ravens have 9 million dead money for Ray Rice. 7.5million for Haloti Ngata, who is currently playing on a different team.

If DJax didn't give it everything when he was on the field I understand. If he was a Malcolm Kelly who let every injury linger, I get it. But Djax goes out burns his body when he's on the field.

He had one season 2012, where he missed 5 games. He typically misses 1 or two, having played all 16 in only 2 of his seasons as a pro. I think he ought to get some benefit of the doubt that something is specifically wrong even if the team isn't being forthcoming on what it is...

doesn't make him a bum.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1126231]And how much did the Patriots spend for Brady the year he was out? or How much did Pittsburgh spend when Big Ben was suspended? You make the contracts, and players play, but when they have a legitimate injury, then that just sucks, nothing more nothing less. The Ravens have 9 million dead money for Ray Rice. 7.5million for Haloti Ngata, who is currently playing on a different team.

If DJax didn't give it everything when he was on the field I understand. If he was a Malcolm Kelly who let every injury linger, I get it. But Djax goes out burns his body when he's on the field.

He had one season 2012, where he missed 5 games. He typically misses 1 or two, having played all 16 in only 2 of his seasons as a pro. I think he ought to get some benefit of the doubt that something is specifically wrong even if the team isn't being forthcoming on what it is...

doesn't make him a bum.[/quote].

No, he isn't a bum by any stretch of the imagination. DeSean is still young and can still produce at a very high level. Brady and Rothlisberger are franchise quarterbacks. A wise and talented GM like McCloughan looks at every little thing. I'm willing to bet he has already imagined what the WR corp can be without Jackson. To partner with Garcon and Crowder, McCloughan could inject a Richard Sherman type or explosive receiving weapon like Lee Evans....injuries are apart of the NFL...it was suggested above that the Redskins could move on from Jackson... and it would be for the reasons I stated...

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1126233].

No, he isn't a bum by any stretch of the imagination. DeSean is still young and can still produce at a very high level. Brady and Rothlisberger are franchise quarterbacks. A wise and talented GM like McCloughan looks at every little thing. I'm willing to bet he has already imagined what the WR corp can be without Jackson. To partner with Garcon and Crowder, McCloughan could inject a Richard Sherman type or explosive receiving weapon like Lee Evans....injuries are apart of the NFL...it was suggested above that the Redskins could move on from Jackson... and it would be for the reasons I stated...[/quote]

And that's fine, in the offseason, the decision time will come, and if they move on it's fine, but you referenced what the Skins are paying him. That's a sunk cost. He could just as easily have had his 6th 15+ game season and been a game changer who we stole.

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DJAX… we need him to stretch field…BUT even if he does that does any team fear Cousins arm to get the ball to him?? From what I have seen Cousins does not have a big arm to scare anybody! getting Reed back is more important he can run the routes that Cousins can hit…as far as predictions with the bye week looming the Skins need this game bad..I will say if they lose Gruden is on the major hot seat..I think the Skins win in a close game 21 -20 ..we will see.