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[quote=diehardskin2982;791755]It is a valid hypothesis yes, but it is a scenario of catching lightining in a bottle. The skins of the late 80's, early 90's prove my point. 3 superbowls, franchise Qb's. The ravens lone superbowl won by a backup caliber qb. TB, Giants. I will give you that the rule have been changed to benefit teams with top notch qb's.

If you can not protect the QB, you can't develop a QB. So if I was using an analogy, I'd use a car in that the O line is the body of the car, while the QB is the Driver. Without the right protection of a body in a bad accident the driver is most likely dead.[/quote]

Those teams are the exception, not the rule. I'm not going to stand here and say that you need a QB to win a Super Bowl, but these days if you want to be a viable Super Bowl contender for more then a one year miracle run you need a QB.

I can't think of one team in todays NFL since the post 2004 5 yard holding rules were emphasized that has won a Super Bowl without either a bona fide franchise QB or a QB that played lights out during the postseason.

- Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Packers, and Saints all had top tier franchise QB's.

-The lone outlier, New York Giants, finished their Super Bowl run with a QB that posted a [URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/elimanning/gamelogs?id=MAN473170&season=2007"]95.7 rating in the playoffs that year.[/URL] A performance that saw Eli Manning follow up with a Pro Bowl appearance the following year.

Also of all the teams that even made it to the Super Bowl in the New NFL, only the Bears reached the big game without a Pro Bowl QB. They were slaughtered.

With that said, we need to continue to build our front lines. For anyone who's even remotely curious here's how I personally prioritize units when it comes to the draft.

1. QB
2. DL
3. OL
4. DB
5. LB
6. WR
7. RB

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carolina panthers got there as well, although they lost. If there isn't atleast a decent line to protect your developing franchise QB star he will have no chance to develop a superstar QB. The demise of McNabb IMO was based on the fact that our line never gave him a real chance.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;791775]carolina panthers got there as well, although they lost. If there isn't atleast a decent line to protect your developing franchise QB star he will have no chance to develop a superstar QB. The demise of McNabb IMO was based on the fact that our line never gave him a real chance.[/quote]

That was before the emphasis on the 5 yard cushion. The "new" rules that came about (or more accurately the new style of officiating) because the Colts complained about New England mugging their receivers all over the field during the playoffs the following year. Leading the competition committee to lay the hammer down on DB's and opening up the passing game. Since then every team that has won the Super Bowl has done so with a franchise QB or a really hot QB.

Also it's hard to believe but Jake Delohme was actually a really good QB once upon a time. His QB rating for the playoffs was a 106.1 when they reached the Super Bowl. He then followed up that postseason performance with a 29 TD 15 int season.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;791715]This reconstruction segment is hilarious. According to them the QB is the foundation of the team. The offensive and defensive line is the foundations IMO. As for widerecievers I think we should draft a kid with size resign moss and also pick someone like Steve Smith. Someone that moves the chains[/quote]


Get the O line situation under control and the rest will follow. It was dumb though to retain CP with the contract we gave him. Guy is a gamer, and I like him a lot. I am glad he is going to stay a Skin, but he isn't going to ever play a full season ever again, unless we shore up the damn line. As for WR, just get a guy that is physical and has good hands. We wasted a ton of low end picks on guys that are small and/or lanky. Speed is nice, but if you can't take a hit or fend off the bump and run you are worthless.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;791802]Get the O line situation under control and the rest will follow. [B]It was dumb though to retain CP with the contract we gave him. Guy is a gamer, and I like him a lot[/B]. I am glad he is going to stay a Skin, but he isn't going to ever play a full season ever again, unless we shore up the damn line. As for WR, just get a guy that is physical and has good hands. We wasted a ton of low end picks on guys that are small and/or lanky. Speed is nice, but if you can't take a hit or fend off the bump and run you are worthless.[/quote]

I think they were joking about the signing CP thread. Pretty sure it was an April Fools joke.

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Portis retained? did I miss something? A big part of shanny's offense is the playaction supported by a strong run game. Because of a bad running back corp and weak line we were number 30 rushing team.

We have 6 runningbacks. Torian cannot stay healthy and Willams is not good enough to be a stand alone back. If we draft VT Running back Ryan Williams or even PSU Evan Royster later on day 3 would help the skins.

Targeting a player like Michael Bush in free agency could go a long way as well.

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[quote=ethat001;791827]I think they were joking about the signing CP thread. Pretty sure it was an April Fools joke.[/quote]

Not think, WAS an April Fool's joke. I guess you didn't read the thread. SS even admitted it was a joke.

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[quote=SkinzWin;791830]Not think, WAS an April Fool's joke. I guess you didn't read the thread. SS even admitted it was a joke.[/quote]

[I]I think[/I] that's why I posted the comment.

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[url=http://prod.www.redskins.clubs.nfl.com/news-and-events/article-1/Writers-Roundtable-Breakout-Player-In-2011/2ed6cede-52d2-46d8-a2e6-34d18bd3d296]Writers Roundtable: Breakout Player In 2011?[/url]


high hopes for MK in 2011?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;792282][url=http://prod.www.redskins.clubs.nfl.com/news-and-events/article-1/Writers-Roundtable-Breakout-Player-In-2011/2ed6cede-52d2-46d8-a2e6-34d18bd3d296]Writers Roundtable: Breakout Player In 2011?[/url]


high hopes for MK in 2011?[/quote]

I can't think of a player teammates and coaches have rooted for more in recent years. He works hard and is extremely likable (from what I hear, personally haven't met him), that he should get every opportunity

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[quote=SmootSmack;792283]I can't think of a player teammates and coaches have rooted for more in recent years. He works hard and is extremely likable (from what I hear, personally haven't met him), that he should get every opportunity[/quote]


I got to talk to him 1 time at work, he seemed pretty laid back but it wasn't a long conversation or anything. I hope he becomes a factor.

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Well, Kelly's always injured, didn't do anything with playing time when he had it & was often benched, and has caught 28 catches for 365 yards over 3 years. Half of that on one game (and that one 84 yard play, he got caught from behind inside the 5 yard line & almost fumbled the ball - [URL="http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010010314/2009/REG17/redskins@chargers/watch"]see here[/URL] ). Over the first 1-2 years even Devin Thomas showed more promise on the field -- and we cut him last year.

[switch to the redskins fan Homer cap]

Hope he comes back big time. He's 24, he's shown promise the last few games he played, and.. he's all we have. He and Fred Davis could have big years this year and redeem the 2008 draft class.

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Until we get it done!!......

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[QUOTE]
[B]Kirwan: Moss to Redskins sounds right[/B]
By NFL.com Staff |
Published: April 12th, 2011
Pat Kirwan, Vic Carucci, Washington Redskins

[U][B]Randy Moss [/B][/U]finished the 2010 season in near anonymity and will face a unkown future once free agency begins. Moss would probably prefer a return trip to New England, though our Vic Carucci believes that he could be headed to the Jets.

Pat Kirwan threw out the possibility of another possible team during his weekly chat — the Redskins.

“The Randy Moss discussion is leverage against losing Holmes and Braylon Edwards,” Kirwan said. “If Moss is willing to play for near the minimum with incentives, there could be some interest. Watch Moss in a Vikings or Titans uniform and you’re not going to get too excited. He could get things going with a good offseason of work.

“One spot I would keep an eye out for is Washington. Bruce Allen, son of George, has always liked veteran players.”

The Jets, Patriots and Redskins … Moss has been linked to half as many teams as he had receptions for the Titans last season.

[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/04/12/kirwan-moss-to-redskins-sounds-right/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Kirwan: Moss to Redskins sounds right «[/url][/QUOTE]


No way, my guess is this is just a bad article to start rumors in a dead offseason. After Galloway, Larry Johnson, Willie Parker last season - this wouldn't surprise me. Although he probably is more talented than every other WR we have -- he's old, unmotivated, underachieving, and definitely wouldn't help us rebuild a team for the future. If he couldn't motivate on the Titans, then he's not going to get motivated playing for a 4-12 team either.

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The only Moss that'll be a Redskin in 2011 is Santana