Re: I am Impressed Am Excitied With All The Young Guys Stepping Up This Year
 

[quote=FRPLG;772742]Part of me is happy but a bigger part just thinks maybe our coaching is pretty good and our vet players just suck. Guys like Rob Jackson coming in and contributing as much as a guy like McIntosh is telling.[/quote]

Nah, our tackling has regressed, we get penalized at the worst times on special teams, and Kyle took a few steps back this week with regards to playcalling. Kyle may improve once he gets "unspoiled", but the other two should know how to coach fundamentals.

Re: I am Impressed Am Excitied With All The Young Guys Stepping Up This Year
 

[quote=Big C;772737]macho would be a good guy to keep around either way. he can play any position in the secondary and could be a good special teams guy at the very least, returned kicks in college as well[/quote]

It's not like you are say, biased, in anyway. Not like you are a VT fan and want to see VT guys on the Skins or anything....

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Rob Jackson looked like a real nice fit at OLB - a very pleasant surprise. Kevin Barnes making a play was big too. Hopefully these guys get a chance to play bigger roles next season.

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Maybe we dont need so many fills as we thought on defense.

Barnes has stepped it up, and can play just about anywhere at a good level. I would like to see Rogers come back. He may not make many INT's, but he's pretty solid in coverage most of the time.

Rob Jackson, and Orakpo as our 2 OLB'S? I like the sound of that.. Now every dog has his day, but Jackson was a machine today. He was abusing the tackles, and making great solid tackles in open field as well flying around the field.

As far as ILB. I would part ways with Rocky. He's just not cutting it, and half the time his tackling is below average and he doesn't shed blocks very well.. it's amazing to watch Fletcher fly around the field being 6 or so years older then Rocky. I like Perry Riley as well, so if we can pick up a little more depth in this position I would be happier.

Our strongest of the defense is our DB's imo. Besides the lack at FS, but Macho looked okay there today. Atleast he was making tackles, and laying the wood. Unlike Moore who can't tackle high school RB's.

Bryant is looking pretty solid at NT, and has been doing 100x better a job then Kemo has this year atleast in game time. Maybe we should use the 2nd round to pick up some depth here?

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[quote=SkinzWin;772752]It's not like you are say, biased, in anyway. Not like you are a VT fan and want to see VT guys on the Skins or anything....[/quote]

ok? i said he could be a good special teams player and backup secondary player due to versatility, its not like i said he was going to be a pro bowler...and yes ive liked him for a long time.

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[quote=SkinzWin;772752]It's not like you are say, biased, in anyway. Not like you are a VT fan and want to see VT guys on the Skins or anything....[/quote]

wherever might you get that idea?

he pretty much prefaced it much like I did

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[quote=T.O.Killa;772643]A team is nothing, without a Quarterback. Keep drafting them untill you have one and then you can build your team.[/quote]

this is a common mistake.....we have been doing ths for over 10 yrs now. Draft and solidify ur OL/DL FIRST...then worry about a QB. Having the ability to run the ball helps whoever is under center

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While impressed with the effort, I would not let up in areas of obvious need of skill and depth. If the QB of the future is not on the board then trading down and getting more youth should be the plan. Adding depth and competition to the DL, OL, and secondary should be of the highest priorities.

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[quote=tryfuhl;772770]wherever might you get that idea?

he pretty much prefaced it much like I did[/quote]

I think he is also pulling for us to draft Tyrod Taylor...

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[quote=Bucket;772763]Maybe we dont need so many fills as we thought on defense.

Barnes has stepped it up, and can play just about anywhere at a good level. I would like to see Rogers come back. He may not make many INT's, but he's pretty solid in coverage most of the time.

Rob Jackson, and Orakpo as our 2 OLB'S? I like the sound of that.. Now every dog has his day, but Jackson was a machine today. He was abusing the tackles, and making great solid tackles in open field as well flying around the field.

As far as ILB. I would part ways with Rocky. He's just not cutting it, and half the time his tackling is below average and he doesn't shed blocks very well.. it's amazing to watch Fletcher fly around the field being 6 or so years older then Rocky. I like Perry Riley as well, so if we can pick up a little more depth in this position I would be happier.

Our strongest of the defense is our DB's imo. Besides the lack at FS, but Macho looked okay there today. Atleast he was making tackles, and laying the wood. Unlike Moore who can't tackle high school RB's.

Bryant is looking pretty solid at NT, and has been doing 100x better a job then Kemo has this year atleast in game time. [B]Maybe we should use the 2nd round to pick up some depth here?[/B][/quote]

I am hoping we don't use a 2nd round pick to serve as a backup. They should be talented enough to challenge for a starting position. If they aren't, you aren't drafting right. I think I feel a cold coming on. *Cough, Cerrato, Cough*

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[quote=T.O.Killa;772641]I think we have added at least three free agent young starters to our team. We also have had several other players that have stepped up and could possibly be solid starters next year. I think that there is allot of positives to take out of this year. Next year we will be a much younger team, and have a bunch of new bona fide starters. Banks, Armstrong, Torain, and Lichtenstieger, are starters in my opinion. Bryant, Grossman, Jackson, Jarmon, and Barnes, all look like they could be potential starters. Remember, Joe Gibbs was 6-10 his first year back with the Redskins. We have 1st, 2nd, 5th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 7th draft choices next year. Thats more than normal. The only problem I had with this win is it sent us careening down the draft board. What do you guys think?[/quote]

i think the real question is are these guys any good. yeah they're good enough to start here, but are they good enough to be top tier starters? but good to see some of the younger guys get in there and play.

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Yes, i think we've got some contributions from some young players like TW, Banks especially since he was an unknown, Riley potentially. Armstrong might become a solid role player. In contrast, to our NFC East brothren, we are severly lacking though. Compare and contrast the young talent. Not close. I think MS and BA are going to be doing the right things though. It takes time so we've got to be patient w/ these guys.

Not trying to be Debbie Downer here, but w/ the exception of TW and possibly banks I don't see too many future stars, playmakers. Some possible depth and or/roleplayers yes.

I'm happy to see guys come in yesterday, play hard and get the win. There's a long way to go though to match up w/ the big boys.

Re: I am Impressed Am Excitied With All The Young Guys Stepping Up This Year
 

[quote=redsk1;772869]Yes, i think we've got some contributions from some young players like TW, Banks especially since he was an unknown, Riley potentially. Armstrong might become a solid role player. In contrast, to our NFC East brothren, we are severly lacking though. Compare and contrast the young talent. Not close. I think MS and BA are going to be doing the right things though. It takes time so we've got to be patient w/ these guys.

[B]Not trying to be Debbie Downer here, but w/ the exception of TW and possibly banks I don't see too many future stars, playmakers[/B]. Some possible depth and or/roleplayers yes.

I'm happy to see guys come in yesterday, play hard and get the win. There's a long way to go though to match up w/ the big boys.[/quote]


I think you could add Torain in there too....if he's able to stay healthy.

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Armstrong proved himself this year as well.

Even if all the guys that stepped up yesterday only pan out to be quality depth guys, that's not something that should be looked down upon. Quality depth is something we've been seriously lacking.

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It is great to see all these "scrubs" stepping up. Ive always like Rob Jackson, but thought his career was over with us when we moved to the 3-4. Physicially he does look a lot more like a linebacker then a d-end, so maybe he has a futre there.

Also what i love most about this is that these young guys are getting a chance to step up. All too often coaches are more concerned to make sure that they keep their job rather then trying to build depth by playing younger guys once the season is over.