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GTripp0012 09-13-2009 09:23 PM

Re: Offense = Disappointment
 
[quote=SirClintonPortis;588355]I have to wonder if Zorn was too confident that the defense would easily draw three and outs and that's why he decided to pound Portis repeatedly to the left while moving Sellers in motion.[/quote]Almost certainly this is the case.

But 1) he should have known better, being around for the preseason and all, and 2) it's not an excuse for not doing more of what you were successful at.

JWsleep 09-13-2009 09:25 PM

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What's odd is that JC had a slightly better QB rating (93.6 vs 93.5) than Eli. They both had a fumble, a pick, and a TD. But JCs fumble went for a TD, the gints had better yardage, and they had much better ToP. What's really weird is how statistically close--and close on the scoreboard--this game was, but watching it, I never felt we had a chance. We just looked like losers out there.

Gotta start believing. The gints are not that good, but they NEVER beat themselves, and they just believe that we are not a real threat. And they seem to be right. I HATE that.

dmvskinzfan08 09-13-2009 09:28 PM

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[quote=JWsleep;588372]What's odd is that JC had a slightly better QB rating (93.6 vs 93.5) than Eli. They both had a fumble, a pick, and a TD. But JCs fumble went for a TD, the gints had better yardage, and they had much better ToP. What's really weird is how statistically close--and close on the scoreboard--this game was, but watching it, I never felt we had a chance. We just looked like losers out there.

Gotta start believing. The gints are not that good, but they NEVER beat themselves, and they just believe that we are not a real threat. And they seem to be right. I HATE that.[/quote]

I had posted a thread a while ago about JC vs Eli stats and how they were very familiar. So this lends to that point.

We just made too many mental mistakes. I think everything can be corrected. But it wont matter if the play calling doesn't get better.

SirClintonPortis 09-13-2009 09:28 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;588370]Almost certainly this is the case.

But 1) he should have known better, being around for the preseason and all, and 2) it's not an excuse for not doing more of what you were successful at.[/quote]
Indeed, the passing game (ARE) was the brighter spot of the O today even with
the turnovers and crap and WCO is supposed to be pass first.

SFREDSKIN 09-13-2009 09:32 PM

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If you guys are watching the Packers game right now, you would see that we should doing what Rogers is doing AIRING IT OUT!!

JWsleep 09-13-2009 09:33 PM

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Also, have you seen Cutler's 2 INTs? He's a gunslinger...

JWsleep 09-13-2009 09:35 PM

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Tried to air it out one too many--safety!

JWsleep 09-13-2009 09:36 PM

Re: Offense = Disappointment
 
Back to the thread--until we hit the long ball a few times, we are not going to bother folks. But the real killer is the third down efficiency, especially third and short. That's gotta improve.

dmvskinzfan08 09-13-2009 09:37 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;588382]Indeed, the passing game (ARE) was the brighter spot of the O today even with
the turnovers and crap and WCO is supposed to be pass first.[/quote]

You got a great point there!! Maybe that's why this offense isn't working???

On this game. A complete team failure. You can't even pin it on just one player. Coaching on defense and offense was horrible.

JWsleep 09-13-2009 09:39 PM

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Oh, and another bad pick from Cutler--franchise, anyone?

Hog1 09-13-2009 09:40 PM

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SOOOOO.........this is the West Coast Offense?
I thought it would be different.......

Longtimefan 09-13-2009 09:46 PM

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It's been said many times and in many different ways, but the bottom line is (and there's only one way to say it) the offense lacks consistency. Identifying the problem is not that difficult, knowing what to do about is what's more important. Do you think the coaches know what to do?

JWsleep 09-13-2009 09:49 PM

Re: Offense = Disappointment
 
I wonder if Zorn is trying to adapt too much to the players he has--CP, in particular. Yes, we've got CP and Buges, but maybe we should throw first to set up the run?

And there is something to JC in the shotgun and hurry-up. He was quick and decisive there--yes, the gints were in prevent, but he didn't hesitate.

I still feel, either way, that we'll look better next week and everyone will say, Oh, Zorn opened it up, JC found some skill, etc. etc. The gints are good at defense. They make you look bad. Not an excuse, just a fact. Good teams find a way to win anyway. We didn't. But I'm not sure a total tear-down is in order.

insideman 09-13-2009 09:51 PM

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When we get a coach that is worth a crap then some of these issues might, and I said might, be fixed. But not until then. Synder created this monster of a non not knowing how to coach coaching staff.

Hog1 09-13-2009 09:56 PM

Re: Offense = Disappointment
 
If this game were indicative (which is is not) of the entire season, the following would be true:
Our line is not stout enough for an effective running game left, and non-exisitent to the right.
JC is making some silly mistakes-see failure to step up leading to strip and subseguent G- score.
O-line cannot give adequate protection for JC.
Recievers are not getting open or JC fals to see them
REALLY UNimaginative play calling
Blessfully.........this will not be the case next week
There's not place like home, there's no place like home.........


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