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this thread is exhausting...

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[quote=Paintrain;558504][B]QB-Philly, NYG, Washington, Dallas[/B]; Romo takes a big step backwards without T.O. and Campbell takes a big step forward. McNabb is far and away the best in the division.

[B]RB-Dallas, Washington, NYG, Philly[/B]; Barber, Jones and Choice could all start for some teams. Portis puts up his normal 1,300-11 TD season.

[B]WR-Washington, Philly, Dallas, NYG[/B]; Surprisingly I feel like we have the fewest questions at WR. Philly and NY are putting a lot of faith in rookies and in Dallas, Roy Williams hasn't proven anything to show he's going to be a reliable #1.
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TE-Dallas, Washington, Philly, NYG[/B]; Witten is one of the best in the game, Cooley not far behind him. The drop off is precipitous after those two.
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OL-NYG, Philly, Washington, Dallas[/B]; Why Washington over Dallas? They are actually OLDER and more injury prone than our OL. I like Dockery coming back and think Heyer will solve our RT questions.
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DL-NYG, Dallas, Washington, Philly[/B]; With Osi coming back the Giants are going to be really scary up front. Haynesworth helps but you can count on him and Griff missing 2-4 games each year so you've got to discount them somewhat.
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LB-Dallas, NYG, Washington, Philly[/B]; Ware is the best pass rusher in the league, NYG have 3 solid starters and decent depth.

[B]CB-Washington, Philly, Dallas, NYG[/B]; Hall and Rogers are slightly better than Samuels and Hobbs. Dallas is counting on development in the 2nd year from some players and NYG is solid but not great.

[B]S-Washington, NYG, Dallas, Philly[/B]; Landry/Horton/Moore puts them above the rest of the division. Probably our strongest unit.

[B]ST-Philly, Dallas, NYG Washington[/B]; DeSean Jackson is the difference maker here. Dallas has the best kicker/punter combo, we've still got question marks at K and in the return game.

[B]Coaches-NYG, Philly, Washington, Dallas[/B]; Pretty simple Coughlin won a SB, Reid has been to a Super Bowl, I like Zorn in his 2nd year more than Phillips who is the most obvious lame duck in the NFL.
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Overall-NYG, Washington, Philly, Dallas[/B]; The Giants are still the class of the division until proven otherwise. I expect improvement in year 2 of Zorn's offense and the additions to our defense should make us more dangerous in terms of sacks and turnovers. Philly was dead in the water last November before making a nice run but over the last 4 years they are only one game better than us in the W-L column. Dallas lost their best player on offense, didn't do much in FA or the draft and have the look of an overrated 6-10 bust.[/quote]

I really think you nailed it.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;558506]So everyone thinks Jeremy Maclin makes the Eagles have the best WR corp in the division, maybe the fastest but not the best.[/quote]

I heard a lot of analysts say that he's going to have to learn how to run routes in the NFL and no-one really considered him a prototypical WCO receiver. Somehow though once he got drafted he's an instant Pro-Bowler if you listen to the ESPN & NFL radio talking heads.

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This thread takes way too much thinking. I don't get why you rank Romo over Eli when Romo has never won a playoff game and Eli really came on strong in the playoffs and the SB. You have to remember that pass when Eli was all but sacked and some how got away and got the ball to hisWR who made a hugh catch. Then in the final minutes hit Mr shot myself with the winning TD. I know Eli has look bad at times but when it counted he did his job and Romo two times has failed his team.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;558511]I really think you nailed it.[/quote]

I agree...mainly because I don't feel like typing so much

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;558506]So everyone thinks Jeremy Maclin makes the Eagles have the best WR corp in the division, maybe the fastest but not the best.[/quote]

More DeSean Jackson but Maclin helps. Still part of it relates to how there isn't much competition at this spot among the 4 teams.

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[B]QB: Dallas, Philadelphia, Washington, NY Giants[/B] I believe that, looking at the careers of Campbell and of Eli, that Campbell is already the better of the two. Sure, Eli's 2008 was the best season either of them had, but that looks like an anomaly in his career numbers. I also think that Campbell can be better than McNabb, very, very soon, but out of respect to the established player, Campbell takes a back seat for now.
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RB: Dallas, Philadelphia, NY Giants, Washington[/B] I'd take Portis over Jacobs, but it's close enough to the point where the depth favors the Giants.

[B]WR: Philadelphia, Dallas, Washington, NY Giants[/B] Again, really close between the G-men and the Skins (both will rely heavily on young receiving), but as inconsistent as Santana is, he'd be the best WR on the Giants.

[B]TE: Dallas, Washington, Philadelphia, NY Giants[/B] Both Dallas and Washington go two deep with starting caliber players, but Witten might be the best TE in football.

[B]OT: Philadelphia, NY Giants, Washington, Dallas[/B] God, when will people realize that Flozell Adams is quite terrible.

[B]OG: NY Giants, Philadelphia, Dallas, Washington[/B] Putting this in perspective, the Cowboys are paying a lot of money to Leonard Davis to stabilize this position. He's no Chris Snee or Shawn Andrews though.

[B]C: NY Giants, Dallas, Philadelphia, Washington[/B] I don't think Jammal Jackson or Andre Gurode is all that at Center, but the other two are getting up there in age.

[B]DT: Washington, NY Giants, Philadelphia, Dallas[/B] This is a great DT division. Best in the league, and it's really not even close. We're the best, though.

[B]DE: NY Giants, Philadelphia, Washington, Dallas[/B] I realize Dallas is a 3-4, but man, they get zero push from this position.

[B]OLB: Dallas, Washington, NY Giants, Philadelphia[/B] Demarcus Ware is really the only player of note at this position in the entire division.

[B]MLB: Philadelphia, Washington, NY Giants, Dallas[/B] It was very close between Fletcher and Pierce, but age is being much harder on Pierce than it has been on Fletch.

[B]CB: Washington, NY Giants, Philadelphia, Dallas[/B] Dallas' best No. 2 might end up being one of their rookies. Very strong position across the board in this division.

[B]S: Washington, NY Giants, Philadelphia, Dallas[/B] This ranking is predicated on Landry having a better year than Kenny Phillips.

[B]Special Teams: Dallas, Philadelphia, NY Giants, Washington[/B] Punting situation should be much improved this year, but they have a long way to go after last year.

[B]Overall: Philadelphia, Washington, NY Giants, Dallas[/B]

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GTripp, I am surprised you have Romo as the best qb in the division. I think he is highly overrated, and while his numbers impress, the loss of TO will really highlight his flaws. I would not be shocked for his INTS to skyrocket and his TD's plummet this year.

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[quote=GTripp0012;558539][B]QB: Dallas, Philadelphia, Washington, NY Giants[/B] I believe that, looking at the careers of Campbell and of Eli, that Campbell is already the better of the two. Sure, Eli's 2008 was the best season either of them had, but that looks like an anomaly in his career numbers. I also think that Campbell can be better than McNabb, very, very soon, but out of respect to the established player, Campbell takes a back seat for now.

[B]RB: Dallas, Philadelphia, NY Giants, Washington[/B] I'd take Portis over Jacobs, but it's close enough to the point where the depth favors the Giants.

[B]WR: Philadelphia, Dallas, Washington, NY Giants[/B] Again, really close between the G-men and the Skins (both will rely heavily on young receiving), but as inconsistent as Santana is, he'd be the best WR on the Giants.

[B]TE: Dallas, Washington, Philadelphia, NY Giants[/B] Both Dallas and Washington go two deep with starting caliber players, but Witten might be the best TE in football.

[B]OT: Philadelphia, NY Giants, Washington, Dallas[/B] God, when will people realize that Flozell Adams is quite terrible.

[B]OG: NY Giants, Philadelphia, Dallas, Washington[/B] Putting this in perspective, the Cowboys are paying a lot of money to Leonard Davis to stabilize this position. He's no Chris Snee or Shawn Andrews though.

[B]C: NY Giants, Dallas, Philadelphia, Washington[/B] I don't think Jammal Jackson or Andre Gurode is all that at Center, but the other two are getting up there in age.

[B]DT: Washington, NY Giants, Philadelphia, Dallas[/B] This is a great DT division. Best in the league, and it's really not even close. We're the best, though.

[B]DE: NY Giants, Philadelphia, Washington, Dallas[/B] I realize Dallas is a 3-4, but man, they get zero push from this position.

[B]OLB: Dallas, Washington, NY Giants, Philadelphia[/B] Demarcus Ware is really the only player of note at this position in the entire division.

[B]MLB: Philadelphia, Washington, NY Giants, Dallas[/B] It was very close between Fletcher and Pierce, but age is being much harder on Pierce than it has been on Fletch.

[B]CB: Washington, NY Giants, Philadelphia, Dallas[/B] Dallas' best No. 2 might end up being one of their rookies. Very strong position across the board in this division.

[B]S: Washington, NY Giants, Philadelphia, Dallas[/B] This ranking is predicated on Landry having a better year than Kenny Phillips.

[B]Special Teams: Dallas, Philadelphia, NY Giants, Washington[/B] Punting situation should be much improved this year, but they have a long way to go after last year.

[B]Overall: Philadelphia, Washington, NY Giants, Dallas[/B][/quote]
I hope your right and JC can become a better QB then McNabb but I think you have been smoking crack. LOL

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[B]QB: Redskins, Eagles, Giants, Cowboys[/B]
You can save this thread because I am predicting Campbell is gonna make the quantum leap this year. He will be the QB that he was in the first half of last season, but this time it will last the whole season. McNabb because of age will slip, he will not have the mobility or arm strength that he had in the past. Eli and Romo have lost thier number 1 recievers and that will have a tremendous effect on the how defenses play them.

[B]RB: Giants, Cowboys, Redskins, Eagles[/B]
This position is what makes the Giants go and the last time I checked they still have a 6-4 265 pound beast in Jacobs playin on that team. They only lost one piece of the 3 headed monster, and it wasn't the most important piece. The Boys have a lot of talent, the skins backs are aging. Although the eagles drafted a great running back I don't put much stock in rookies, history has shown that they either get injured or have so/so years.
[B]WR: Skins, Cowboys, Giants, Eagles [/B]
If DT and MK step up this is a very dangerous group, they have size, speed, and talent. Hopefully we will live up to it. Cowboys have Williams who is better than other number 1 WR's in the division. Eagles have talent but they lack maturity. Giants look lost on paper
[B]TE: Redskins, Cowboys, Giant Eagles[/B]
I put the redskins first because they got the depth and talent at the position. Whitten is great for the boys. Boss is okay, and I dont even know who the eagles have.
[B]OL: Giants, Cowboys, Eagles, Skins[/B]
This area was the downfall of the skins and until they show progress I have to put them last. The Giants lines are what brought them a championship. Boys have the biggest line in football, and the eagles are a question mark.
[B]DL: Redskins, Giants, Cowboys, Eagles[/B]
Haynesworth is a difference maker. we will see a major difference in our line. Giants have a great amount of talent on their line, I believe however the loss of Spags will have the biggest effect on this group. Boy have a good line. Eagles whole defense is in jepordy with the health of their coordinator, i feel he is the heart of this defense.
[B]LB: Cowboys, Skins, Giants, Eagles[/B]
Cowboys have one of the best in Ware, and I think Brooking is a good pickup. Skins Fletcher, McIntosh, & Orakpo looks good on paper. Giants are pretty good with Pierce, and the eagles need to develop.
[B]Secondary: Skins, Eagles, Giants, Cowboys[/B]
[B]Special teams: Eagles, Cowboys, Giants, Skins[/B]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;558542]GTripp, I am surprised you have Romo as the best qb in the division. I think he is highly overrated, and while his numbers impress, the loss of TO will really highlight his flaws. I would not be shocked for his INTS to skyrocket and his TD's plummet this year.[/quote]I would be shocked if he posted something totally out of line with his career numbers this year. He's been in his prime for awhile now (he's 29), so I don't see him getting much better than he is now.

When I break down Romo's passes from last year, the trends are startling. Almost zero of his most valuable completions went to wide receivers. Consistently, Romo was best throwing to his tight ends and backs. Little things like that tend to be the mark of good quarterbacking.

If Campbell explodes this year, I expect to see a similar trend: Cooley and Fred Davis with tons of positive value plays, a great receiving year from Portis, quality contributions from Betts and Sellers, and then the status quo from the WRs.

That should yield the breakout, as long as the status quo with the WRs looks something more like a set of standard NFL receivers, and less like whatever last year's impersonation was.

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Romo's QB ratings in his three years are 95.1, 97.4, and 91.4, so he's definately going to hang around in the top ten for some time.

Eli has 77.0, 73.9, and 86.4 over the same timeframe.
McNabb has 95.5, 89.9, and 86.4 despite a gradually improving supporting cast. He's in decline.
And Campbell: 76.5, 77.6, and 84.3, or pretty much exactly Eli, but with a declining cast.

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[quote=Giantone;558497]
WR) Skins/Cowboys/Giants/Eagles
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Oh boy....did you just rank the Skins WR the top in the NFC east?
you are obviously not a redskins fan...nor have you watched them enough to realize our issues

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[quote=Giantone;558496]Opinions ....everyone has them,...maybe you should have swept the Giants but ya didn't .I'm trying to understand ....this year hasn't been played so we base our opinions on the last season played,correct,yet the Giants won the divison and had one of the best O lines in the league yet you rank them third ,2 running backs over 1000 yards and we are the worst RB team in your opinion.Romo has'nt won crap and yet you put Eli behind Romo,the only thing I will agree with you on is our WR's and DB's,basicly the rest is .........strickly opinion.[/quote]

Yes we should of swept them in 2007. We didnt I know this. I only said it because I didnt think a comment like the Giants have owned the Redskins over the last few years made any sense to me if you actually look at the games.

I rank my players and positions on alot of different factors. Yes the Giants won the division last year but last time I checked teams have made roster moves since the end of the 2008 season.

The Eagles offensive line should be great this year with the additions they have made. The Cowboys or Giants you could flip a coin on. They both have solid lines. I decided to give the Cowboys the edge.

Yes the Giants had two 1000 yard backs last year but last time I checked one of them plays for the Tampa Bay Bucs now. With Felix Jones healthy to pair with Marion Barber I gave the Cowboys 1. I think the Skins with Portis and the Eagles with Westbrook are better than Brandon Jacobs.

Yes Romo hasnt won crap but if you want to get into the nitty gritty Eli was carried to his SB win. Hell he got two gifts by the Patriots on the GW drive in that game. (Dont get me wrong I was so happy when the Pats lost im just saying that Eli didnt win it for them) I think Romo has way more ability and honestly hes the better QB.

No doubt everything I have ranked in my OP is opinion. Its nothing personal against the Giants. If it was personal id have the Eagles at 3 and the Cowboys at 4. I hate them both alot more than the Giants. :)

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[quote=firstdown;558527]This thread takes way too much thinking. I don't get why you rank Romo over Eli when Romo has never won a playoff game and Eli really came on strong in the playoffs and the SB. You have to remember that pass when Eli was all but sacked and some how got away and got the ball to hisWR who made a hugh catch. Then in the final minutes hit Mr shot myself with the winning TD. I know Eli has look bad at times but when it counted he did his job and Romo two times has failed his team.[/quote]

I honestly think Romo is far and away a better QB than Eli Manning. If you put Romo on that Giants team that year they win the SB and actually score more points. Last year I think Romo also played better than Eli.