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[quote=redsk1;547583]This is not a bash Cowherd thread, it is a self exam of us Skins fans. Yes/No. Do we think were a top organization, a few players away, almost a contender?[/quote]

I think the NFL proves every year that if a few things fall in place anyone can "contend".

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If Arizona made it to the SB, or the Giants the year before, any team might strike it rich and get to the SB, but are we ready to be a perennial elite team. I don't know. And until we stop jumping from coach to coach, system to system, etc, and stay with one long enough for the roots to grow deep, we will never know. One of the best things about Zorn, when he was hired was he is at the prime age to be here 8-10 years. At 55, i believe, he has a good chance of putting it all together and developing his system. And I thought Snyder understood that when he brought him in. If he is trying to imitate Holmgren or Reid's successes, then he will let patience rule the day. And if he does, then maybe the next decade will leave a better memory than this one has.

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[quote=redsk1;547583]This is not a bash Cowherd thread, it is a self exam of us Skins fans. Yes/No. Do we think were a top organization, a few players away, almost a contender?[/quote]
Are we a well run organization: Long answer: Unknown. We have undergone a lot of turmoil the last 10 years. That's to be expected with an ownership change. Gibbs' brought stability and class that was sorely needed. Last year was VC's first year officially calling the shots, so the jury's still out. A lot will depend on how the draft goes and the 2009 season goes before that determination can be made.
Short answer: Based on the last 10 years of W-L, No.

Are we a contender: Yes, we have holes like every other NFL team, but we were 6-2 to start the year before the OL broke down and we ran into a few real solid defenses. We fix the OL and have a fairly injury free season (knock on wood) and we're 10-6 / 11-5 and in the playoffs.

On Cowherd and his Skins fan rant, how quickly he forgets both Manning and McNabb were on the verge of being run out of their respective cities by the fans before Manning had the SB run in 2007 and McNabb closed out 2008 strong. On Dallas fans, (excluding a couple of members here) for the most part they're just either morons who think their team can do no wrong or closet dwellers when they lose.

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I pretty much never say this, but Colin Cowherd is a moron and I don't care what he says. His show sucks and so do his research abilities.

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[quote=Mattyk72;547585]I think the NFL proves every year that if a few things fall in place anyone can "contend".[/quote]



BINGO,as I have said before, in this league it's better to be lucky then good!

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[quote=70Chip;547566]Colin Cowherd was seperated at birth from that ShamWow/Slap Chop guy.[/quote]

I'm trying not to laugh out loud in class hah...

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[quote=Mattyk72;547585]I think the NFL proves every year that if a few things fall in place anyone can "contend".[/quote]

Yeah seriously, case in point: Atlanta. They got two major players and they made it into the playoffs. Big change from the previous year's performance.

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[quote=70Chip;547566]Colin Cowherd was seperated at birth from that ShamWow/Slap Chop guy.[/quote]

:laughing2

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[quote=70Chip;547566]Colin Cowherd was seperated at birth from that ShamWow/Slap Chop guy.[/quote]I used to think he looked like Joe Buck on crystal meth, but not anymore. Well done.

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I actually don't remember Cowherd saying that about the fans this morning. Must have missed it

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If anything, CC might want to take a look at polls here & on wash post. In both cases, Cutler & Sanchez, the fans voted no. It was 63% or so against cutler & 87% against M.Sanch. & that last one was w/3,500 + votes!

What I take from those polls & from the multitudes of posters here, is that the hardcore Skins fan is very tired of the spend big, pay later, & trade picks only to be mediocre, approach that DS has taken for most of his ownership. Any year this team can make the playoffs w/some good fortune, but it certainly isn't a consistent winner, and the fans are not buying the Danny's big moves any more IMO.

By & large I think we now have a fan base that's as close to being disgruntled & mutinous as ever!

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[quote=Mattyk72;547585]I think the NFL proves every year that if a few things fall in place anyone can "contend".[/quote]

Absolutely correct. Try to sneak your way into the playoffs and then it becomes like a lottery.

A better question is: Are we in a position to contend long-term, year after year? My answer is no. We need to do more work before that happens and that work can only unfold through several successful drafts.

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[quote=Mattyk72;547580]Yeah he gets old quick.

I'm the best, I know everything, don't question me, you're dumb, I'm smart.

Yawn.

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I listen to him but you're 100% correct. He comes across as a 100% Mr. Know It All.

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[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman] VC: “JC is our guy, he’s our starting QB”[/FONT][/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman] We attempt to trade for Jay Cutler[/FONT][/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman] We bring in Byron Leftwich for a backup tryout[/FONT][/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman] We wine and dine Mark Sanchez this weekend w/ VC, DS, JZ and the qb coach[/FONT][/SIZE]
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That is dumb IMO...either Campbell is your man, or he isn't...make up your mind. I would LOVE to assume this was a motivational tool to "light a fire" under Campbell, but I think the FO doesn't believe in Campbell.

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[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]CC in comparison sais that Cowboys fans are better b/c they know Jerry Jones is crazy. He also continues by saying that you don’t hear any other NFC East Team doing this to their QB. [/FONT][/SIZE]
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Cowboys fans are OK cause they "know JJ is crazy", but we skins fans don't know Snyder is glorified fantasy football player??? HUH? We know what we have in Snyder.
The other NFC east teams don't do this to their QB's? Ummm what? (slingin sammy touched on this) The Giants had a major issue with Eli until they won the SB, and they were 1 hair away from firing coughlin! They were ready to run both of them out of town! The eagles have had issues with a future hall of famer QB in McNabb. How many times have they talked about trading him, or rumored to trade. Even Reid was on the hot seat at one time. Also, I don't know how many of you actually talk to every day Dallas fans, but I have heard A TON of them talk bad about Romo. He is either really liked, or really hated, there is no in between. How can Dallas fans be so fickle about their pro bowl QB? Sorry, I think the other NFC East teams are worse, they just had more success, and that curbs ANYTHING! I do not think there is anything wrong with Skins fans being unwilling to accept mediocrity. If Cowherd is going to say anything he should talk about our patience factor, that's it.

[quote][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]So are we almost there, just a couple players away, from perennial success? Yes or no. [/SIZE][/FONT][/quote]

We need consistancy in the coaching staff...enough with the revolving door already, set something in place, and let the bad happen...the good will come. We need to stop thinking ALL our answers rely in FA! Build the team from the bottom up. We had pretty good chemistry last year considering all the changes that took place, and this year we only added 1 real outsider. (Hall was already here, and Dockery was here too). We have peices in place to be successful now (although a couple holes do need filling), we just need to be consistant. Problem is, the team is a little old, in particular on the OL. So we are NOT set up for perennial success, but we can be if we just exercise some patience.

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Eagles' fans comments following Sean Taylor's death should leave no doubt that they have the worst fans