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WillH 10-29-2008 11:37 AM

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[quote=redwarrior111;495188]It's cool. Like I said, I am completely oblivious. I chosse to jump into it, and I chose to use this board as my learning grounds. I learn anything best by just getting involved, even if I make stupid mistakes. I expect a little hazing as I go, maybe even cruel tutelage from time to time. If I couldn't take the heat I'd get out of the kitchen. I'll learn one day, even if its at the school of hard knocks, ya know? Truth is the thought just occured to me. I didn't look at the records, and as a newcomer to a culture I maybe should have watched my words more carefully. I basically just did the equivelent of going to Ireland and saying "So you guys are all useless drunks...right?'' lol. You do that, you deserve your comeupins. I really like seeing Portis play, I was just curious how the stats measure up.[/quote]


No its cool man, I'm just a staunch CP supporter, and I have defended his talent for years, so it was frustrating seeing someone question it when he is leading the league. Believe it or not I meant it when I said no offense.

MTK 10-29-2008 11:45 AM

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[quote=redwarrior111;495175]OK, I'm pretty sure I won't be making any friends with this one. So let me diclamier first by saying again, I'm new and a little retarded still. =)

But I just had a thought today. Is Clinton Portis really that great a running back....Or do we just use him all the time?

What I mean is, are there other running backs in the league that are as good or better, who would be just as close to the record or even further along, if they were used as frequently as we use Portis?[/quote]

I think it's a legit question to ask. Yes he's had a big workload, but I think the key is he's making the most of that workload. He's averaging 5.0 yards per pop, and 5 straight games of at least 120 yards is pretty damn impressive. He's averaging 118 per game, nobody even comes close to that.

If he was only getting 3.5 - 4.0 per carry I think your argument would carry more weight.

The Skins have leaned on him hard, but he's delivering.

Should Brees not be considered because they throw all the time?

tryfuhl 10-29-2008 12:06 PM

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[quote=tdSKINS1;495171]yea its about 30 miles from it. Altavista haha hate that town.. i grew up in Roanoke[/quote]
Lynchburg here via NoVA

tryfuhl 10-29-2008 12:09 PM

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Probably the reason that Portis may be questioned as not as great as he is, he hasn't had a lot of the 30, 40, 50 yard scoots to the end zone as some other guys. He's not quite as "Sportscenter" here with our team.

Hogroll 10-29-2008 01:49 PM

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"Are you good at your job because you like it, or do you like your job because you are good at it?"

tdSKINS1 10-29-2008 07:58 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;495274]Lynchburg here via NoVA[/quote]

Nice I work in lynchburg at Centra Health i'm in Farmville VA going to college where do you live at in Lynchburg?

53Fan 10-29-2008 08:19 PM

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[quote=tdSKINS1;495437]Nice I work in lynchburg at Centra Health i'm in Farmville VA going to college where do you live at in Lynchburg?[/quote]

My nephew lives in Farmville.

tdSKINS1 10-30-2008 12:07 AM

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nice yea i have a house here and i go to Longwood University

InsanePianist 10-31-2008 08:56 AM

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Anyone listen to Mike and Mike this morning? This shocked me to even hear JC being considered, but Jaws and Mel Kiper both say that JC is the MVP so far this year.

GMScud 10-31-2008 09:13 AM

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Campbell is playing really well. Not flashy, but a rating over 100, zero INTs, a few second half come from behind victories and a 6-2 record will get you some consideration I guess. Jaws has always been a big fan of JC. I can't wait to hear him on Monday night.

Happy Halloween everyone.

GMScud 10-31-2008 09:18 AM

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[quote=AnonEmouse;495213]Brees yes, but Collins? You are kidding. He's doing a fine job keeping the ship steady but he is very much the beneficiary of a strong D and running game. Were it not for Mannings INT's Monday night, the Titans could easily have had their first loss.

And Ryan? Again, where would he be without his running game? Maybe if he'd won last week I'd give that suggestion more credence. The kid is playing great, but MVP? Nope.

I'd rank Campbell above both of them, even with his fumbles and I don;t think he's close to MVP.

My top 5 so far:

Portis
Brees
[B]Joey Porter[/B]
Fitzgerald
Haynesworth

Maybe Rivers if SD can start winning again - the losses aren't his fault.[/quote]

Pretty solid list. I'd put Cambpell in there somewhere. Larry Fitzgerald doesn't even lead his own team in TD catches, so I have hard time giving it to him, although he is a fantastic player. Haynesworth is just a freak.

Joey Porter has 10.5 sacks in 7 games. That's nuts. Where the hell did he come from this year? Talk about a renaissance. If he keeps up that pace he'll set the single season record with 24 sacks. At the very least deserving of defensive MVP.


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