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Mix is already a Warpath.net Hall of Famer so he's probably ineligible.. I'll go with Wilson because I think he's already shown glimpses of being exactly what we need, an edge rusher from the strong side..

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;435097]I don't think Wilson will ever be a 3-down starter. He's just too light (he's listed as 240lbs). If breakout means, "great situational player", perhaps - he could be the next Chris Clemons (let's hold onto this one). [/QUOTE]

Weight doesn't have to be everything for a defensive lineman, Robert Mathis is only 245. Although, he is in a defense where the defensive ends are more worried about putting pressure on the quarterback than stopping the run.

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Wilson. I honestly feel a bit responsible for the Mix hype to myself, I mentioned him several times last season when he was in on special teams tackles.

I mean he is decent on teams, but really people assume Mix is some kinda god.

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Not gonna play nostradamus here, but I think its easier for backup players to come in and be successful at DE than WR. It's a less high stress position and i think even meager production from a DE is more acknowledged. On the other hand, ppl expect TD's from a WR or at least the occasional big play. It seems like in this day and age if a young WR isn't a game-changer, then ppl tend to forget about him. And if he drops a critical pass or two, forget it, he might as well put his house up for sale cuz he is gonna be shipped outta there as soon as they can afford to cut/trade him.

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ZOMG. I think this pic says it all.
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God, no offense to A. Mix but I just can't put too much faith in a guy that was recently let go (released/cut/not sure) by the Giants. Now i hope i'm wrong but I can't make an arguement as to why Mix is going to be a breakout player.

I'm going to go w/ Rocky Mac. I know he's coming off surgery but he's young and talented. I think we'll see a big year from him.

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I think this pic says it all as well.
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[QUOTE=redsk1;435142]God, no offense to A. Mix but I just can't put too much faith in a guy that was recently let go (released/cut/not sure) by the Giants.[/QUOTE]

ryan grant???

don't get me wrong, i think grant is a tad over-rated. but the fact is, just because a young guy is let go by a team does NOT mean he can't/won't go somewhere else and develop into a very productive player. there's so many variables at play, i can't even be bothered to try and list them.

consider the fact that the baltimore ravens, a team that has NEVER had a franchise qb, cut derek anderson. you just never know......

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It's an interesting discussion because intrinsic to all this is what the coaches think of each player.

We've heard Cerrato pumping Mix up, but he's not the one who'll decide how many snaps Mix gets, Zorn will decide that. Likewise, Wilson was on the field at the end of last year, and GW was making those decisions. Now it will be Blache making the call. So if Blache has a lesser opinion of Wilson than GW did, Wilson won't be as likely to get on the field.

I'm going to say Wilson is more likely to break out, simply because of snaps. I think Blache and GW think more alike about Wilson than Zorn and Cerrato probably do about Mix. Wilson's more likely to get the PT, in my opinion.

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[QUOTE=djnemo65;435079]Why not both?

I think what we do in the draft will have a big impact on how much these guys get to play and in turn how much they will be able to breakout.[/QUOTE]

Yea, like if we draft Limas Sweed, Mix will probably only be in when there are 5 WRs, and if we draft a DE, then Wilson will be used sparingly.

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I voted for Mix. I believe there is a strong chance we will go DE in the first or second round, likely limiting Wilson's playtime. I think Mix will step up and be a contirbutor in the Red Zone and as an X receiver in 3 & 4 wide packages.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;435176]It's an interesting discussion because intrinsic to all this is what the coaches think of each player.

We've heard Cerrato pumping Mix up, but he's not the one who'll decide how many snaps Mix gets, Zorn will decide that. Likewise, Wilson was on the field at the end of last year, and GW was making those decisions. Now it will be Blache making the call. So if Blache has a lesser opinion of Wilson than GW did, Wilson won't be as likely to get on the field.

I'm going to say Wilson is more likely to break out, simply because of snaps. I think Blache and GW think more alike about Wilson than Zorn and Cerrato probably do about Mix. Wilson's more likely to get the PT, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

But Cerrato has brought up Wilson when talking about why he feels a DT is more important than a DE. But really who knows what's legit and what's a red herring?

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Landry's gonna have the breakout season, but i believe Wilson will have a better season than Mix based on a position by position analysis. There are just too many receivers I believed in and backed up...only to be embarrassed. (i.e. Taylor Jacobs(awesome in practice but could not produce at game time), Mike Espy(not his fault), Brandon Lloyd (his fault), David Patten(made a few clutch catches, but overall was a waste of time and $),etc... Rod Gardner (50/50 anyone?, hot potato, hot potato, stop.drop.and get paid, etc...) Anyway, I'd love to see Mix and Campbell hook it up, but I/m not going to hold my breath because he made a good play on SPECIAL TEAMS in the playoffs. ( in an overall nutshell: i guess i'm hopin' for a breakout season by everyone)

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Chris Wilson...I know a lot of people feel he's undersized, but if he can add another 10-20 pounds without losing his speed, he will perfectly fit the mold of the lighter, athletic, speedy DE that the league seems to be gravitating toward (See Patrick Kerney)

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[QUOTE=squrrelco3;435342]Chris Wilson...I know a lot of people feel he's undersized, but if he can add another 10-20 pounds without losing his speed, he will perfectly fit the mold of the lighter, athletic, speedy DE that the league seems to be gravitating toward (See Patrick Kerney)[/QUOTE]

Everybody thought that about Robert Mathis, , and now he's a premier DE, and there is only a five pound difference between the two, all Chris Wilson needs is a chance to be a full started and then he will emerge as a force on our defense.