Re: Trent Green Back With Rams
 

im really surprised no one on this board wanted him here. at vet minimum, of course

Re: Trent Green Back With Rams
 

[QUOTE=Luxorreb;431002]Give Trent a break.
You guys have no idea what cognitive shape he's in.
Serious injury could happen on any play. No matter if you're Trent Green or a rookie.
Guy can play and in a smart (Saunders) offense he'll be fine.[/QUOTE]


The guy had two concussions in very short order, including a grade three concussion, the most severe. Sure, he may be able to walk and talk today but another serious blow to the head and he could truly do damange that would cause a slow painful spiral into dementia or other debilitating neurologicll disease a la' Mike Webster.


I realize its a wiki article - but from what I can tell looking at some other sites its a pretty good summary.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concussion#Cumulative_effects]Concussion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]
Cumulative effects
Cumulative effects of concussions are poorly understood. The severity of concussions and their symptoms may worsen with successive injuries, even if a subsequent injury occurs months or years after an initial one.[65] Symptoms may be more severe and changes in neurophysiology can occur with the third and subsequent concussions.[48] Studies have had conflicting findings on whether athletes have longer recovery times after repeat concussions and whether cumulative effects such as impairment in cognition and memory occur.[28]

Cumulative effects may include psychiatric disorders and loss of long-term memory. For example, the risk of developing clinical depression has been found to be significantly greater for retired football players with a history of three or more concussions than for those with no concussion history.[66] Three or more concussions is also associated with a five-fold greater chance of developing Alzheimer's disease earlier and a three-fold greater chance of developing memory deficits.[66]


[edit] Dementia pugilistica
Main article: Dementia pugilistica
Chronic encephalopathy is an example of the cumulative damage that can occur as the result of multiple concussions or less severe blows to the head. The condition called dementia pugilistica, or "punch drunk" syndrome, which is associated with boxers, can result in cognitive and physical deficits such as parkinsonism, speech and memory problems, slowed mental processing, tremor, and inappropriate behavior.[67] It shares features with Alzheimer's disease.[68]

Re: Trent Green Back With Rams
 

Ok.
But if ya look it up medically NOONE should play football or box.

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I think people are making way too much of this. The guy's fine and has been cleared by doctors. Yes he's had two bad hits to the head. But for every Ted Johnson there are hundreds of guys that have no problems. But the media never reports any of that. They just focus on the bad stuff.

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Maybe he does not remember his other cocussions!

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The Rams better hold onto Gus Frerotte, even if Green is going to be #2. You can't rely on him lasting more than a few games, or even past one hit. Plus, Bulger gets hurt almost every year. He's played 7, 15, 14, 8, 16 and 12 games in his 2002-2007 seasons. Of course 2002, he took over for Warner, but he still only has one full year under his belt.

Hopefully Trent will be the #3.

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[quote=Buster;431039]The Rams better hold onto Gus Frerotte, even if Green is going to be #2. You can't rely on him lasting more than a few games, or even past one hit. Plus, Bulger gets hurt almost every year. He's played 7, 15, 14, 8, 16 and 12 games in his 2002-2007 seasons. Of course 2002, he took over for Warner, but he still only has one full year under his belt.

Hopefully Trent will be the #3.[/quote]

I doubt it. The HC over there believes that a injured Marc Bulger is better than a healthy Gus Frerotte. Trent Green as a backup is a Godsend as far as he is concerned. I couldn't disagree more, but I am not the Rams HC.

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Frerotte was released by the Rams a week or so ago.

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[quote=SmootSmack;431053]Frerotte was released by the Rams a week or so ago.[/quote]

I had forgotten all about that until just now. I have been at work since 10 PM last night. I am running on empty.

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I'm not sure what he's getting paid, and I'm not saying it's right, but if all of you weighed the options of retirement vs (say) 3 mil a year to ride the pine, what are you going to take?
We can all sit back and criticize Green for doing this, but I for one don't blame him at all. When again will he ever be able to make this kind of money?

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watching Trent play and get hurt the last couple of seasons is like watching Seabiscuits last race. Its a sad sight to see a strong competitor who wants to play and can't hang it up. Remember Aikman how many blows in the head does it take before you put your life ahead of the game. Great player wrong team.Didn't they go down to their 3rd string last year? He's asking to get hurt again.

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[quote=jsarno;431133]I'm not sure what he's getting paid, and I'm not saying it's right, but if all of you weighed the options of retirement vs (say) 3 mil a year to ride the pine, what are you going to take?
We can all sit back and criticize Green for doing this, but I for one don't blame him at all. When again will he ever be able to make this kind of money?[/quote]


but at some point he has to say to himself, "enough is enough". trent green has made plenty of money, he could retire today and still be set for life. at some point he has to realize that the risk might not be worth the reward.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;431053]Frerotte was released by the Rams a week or so ago.[/QUOTE]

I think that we should sign him to a veteran minimum, so he could be emergency qb in case of another incident like last year.

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[QUOTE=Luxorreb;431008]Ok.
But if ya look it up medically NOONE should play football or box.[/QUOTE]

You are right. People playing the game have had spinal cord injuries and were forced out of the game on a permanent basis. Their functional ability was taken away from them, however post concussion syndrome is different. It leaves a player vulnerable. If trent Green ever had sub arachnoid, our dural bleeding in one of his concussions which is a high chance, he is at a much higher risk. Basically a blow that could be taken under normal circumstances could in effect cause another concussion. I am a physical therapist working in a nuerological inpatient rehab setting and I deal with TBI's and other similar injuries. A person could slip on ice and hemmorage and have permanent brain damage, which is tragic but shows you the fragility of our bodies..any nuerologist will tell you the expotential risk of playing contact sports after suffering his types of injuries. I just wish he would have retired instead of putting himself at risk..hopefully he will never play and put himself in jeopardy.

Re: Trent Green Back With Rams
 

[quote=scafuri27;431202]You are right. People playing the game have had spinal cord injuries and were forced out of the game on a permanent basis. Their functional ability was taken away from them, however post concussion syndrome is different. It leaves a player vulnerable. If trent Green ever had sub arachnoid, our dural bleeding in one of his concussions which is a high chance, he is at a much higher risk. Basically a blow that could be taken under normal circumstances could in effect cause another concussion. I am a physical therapist working in a nuerological inpatient rehab setting and I deal with TBI's and other similar injuries. A person could slip on ice and hemmorage and have permanent brain damage, which is tragic but shows you the fragility of our bodies..any nuerologist will tell you the expotential risk of playing contact sports after suffering his types of injuries. I just wish he would have retired instead of putting himself at risk..hopefully he will never play and put himself in jeopardy.[/quote]

well done, young Skywalker.