Re: Franchising Chris Cooley
 

Well theres one other point that people dont make about Cooley/Dockery....and as much as I know WE dont care about it, Cooley sells merchendise, and Dockery dosent. I loved Dock, but I wasent rushing out to buy his jersey. I have a Cooley jersey, I want a captain Chaos shirt, and I flat out would pay money to go see Chris Cooley, I wouldnt for Dockery. Cooley is VERY marketable for this franchise, in fact, I'd say he's one of the 3 most marketable behind Moss/Portis (and maybe now Jason). I really doubt they'd let him walk for that alone, let alone what he does on the feild, which is what I really care about.

Re: Franchising Chris Cooley
 

[QUOTE=brent;284050]No, that's flatout inaccurate. People were writing last year the skins would have to cut their top 20 players to get under the cap, didn't happen did it?

The TE franchise tag might not be so bad. Antonio Gates caved on his contract, so that tag should really be higher than it is for the top 5 guys.[/QUOTE]

Well what's the number if I am "Flat out inacurate"...Is it 5 mil, 6 mil, 7 mil? My point is that the Redskins generally structure contracts backloaded with big bonuses and small early year numbers. When you franchise someone it's a 1 year contract...so whatever the number is that's how much cap room they would need. Franchising goes directly against the way the Redskins structure contracts.

Anyway, Isn't Cooley will only scheduled to be a Restricted Free Agent? He is not in the league 5 years...they would never lose him as a restricted free agent because they can match any deal he gets.

Re: Franchising Chris Cooley
 

As far as marketability goes, I think that "love boat" is gaining...

[QUOTE=Gmanc711;284159]...Cooley is VERY marketable for this franchise, in fact, I'd say he's one of the 3 most marketable behind Moss/Portis (and maybe now Jason). I really doubt they'd let him walk for that alone, let alone what he does on the feild, which is what I really care about.[/QUOTE]

Re: Franchising Chris Cooley
 

[quote=celts32;284166]Well what's the number if I am "Flat out inacurate"...Is it 5 mil, 6 mil, 7 mil? My point is that the Redskins generally structure contracts backloaded with big bonuses and small early year numbers. When you franchise someone it's a 1 year contract...so whatever the number is that's how much cap room they would need. Franchising goes directly against the way the Redskins structure contracts.

Anyway, Isn't Cooley will only scheduled to be a Restricted Free Agent? He is not in the league 5 years...they would never lose him as a restricted free agent because they can match any deal he gets.[/quote]Cooley is UFA next season. Only [U]before[/U] a players accrues [B]4[/B] seasons will he be a RFA. 2007 will be Cooley's 4th year in the league.

Re: Franchising Chris Cooley
 

[QUOTE=That Guy;284111]that's inaccurate. people were writing we'd have to cut the 20 HIGHEST PAID players (not the best), IF A NEW CBA WAS NOT SIGNED (which it was).

safeties and TEs are cheap to franchises though.

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchise_tag"]Franchise tag - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL]

4.4-4.5mill for franchised safeties/TEs in 2007 (and arch's contract feeds into that :/ ).[/QUOTE]


But I seem to remember us getting under the cap before the CBA was announced, without cutting anyone we weren't getting rid of anyway.

Re: Franchising Chris Cooley
 

We draft a [B]great[/B] pass catching tight end, who IMO also is a good blocker, always seems to be giving 100%. Develop him into one of the best in the league and a major key to our offence. Surely they will get his deal done before FA, wont they? :confused:

Re: Franchising Chris Cooley
 

[quote=djnemo65;284178]But I seem to remember us getting under the cap before the CBA was announced, without cutting anyone we weren't getting rid of anyway.[/quote]

nope. a lot of people restructured or made contingent restructures that triggered if the CBA fell through, lavar gave back 4mill, but i believe we still had a cut list if it failed ready to be read.

without restructures or lavar's 4mill, we would've had 26 rookies that year though.

Re: Franchising Chris Cooley
 

[quote=That Guy;284218]nope. a lot of people restructured or made contingent restructures that triggered if the CBA fell through, lavar gave back 4mill, but i believe we still had a cut list if it failed ready to be read.

without restructures or lavar's 4mill, we would've had 26 rookies that year though.[/quote]
No we wouldn't have. Gibbs even said after that that we would have been ok, we just wouldn't have been able to sign anyone. We would have cut the same people.

Re: Franchising Chris Cooley
 

[quote=Gmanc711;284159]Cooley is VERY marketable for this franchise, in fact, I'd say he's one of the 3 most marketable behind Moss/Portis (and maybe now Jason). [/quote]

uhhh...are we forgetting about Sean "the grim reaper" taylor? I posted on another thread, but I'll reiterate. Does anyone know how they determine what his positional franchise tag will be? Is it possible to franchise him as an H-back (are there even enuff H-backs in the league to do this)? It would probably be a lot of savings

Re: Franchising Chris Cooley
 

[quote=Rajmahal33;284435]uhhh...are we forgetting about Sean "the grim reaper" taylor? I posted on another thread, but I'll reiterate. Does anyone know how they determine what his positional franchise tag will be? Is it possible to franchise him as an H-back (are there even enuff H-backs in the league to do this)? It would probably be a lot of savings[/quote]

look up franchise tag on wikipedia, it's updated yearly.

FBs and H-backs count as RBs and costs 7mill to franchise in 2007. TEs cost 4.5mill (only kickers are significantly less). you couldn't franchise guards because they're grouped with OTs and would cost 9.4mill this year, but now OGs are getting paid anyways.

you take the top 5 salaries and average them for the position.

Re: Franchising Chris Cooley
 

I think that the Cooley extention gets done during the season. Watching Dockery leave for big money when they could have possibly sured him up with a Randy Thomas type deal during the season would lead them keep Cooley off the market. Now I know that Dockery wanted to test the market beforehand but a Thomas type deal may have gotten him happy at the time or maybe not but you get my point. Signing Cooley now would be a hell of a lot cheaper than competing with other teams IMO.