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[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16929275/]Eagles coach Reid takes leave of absence - NFL - MSNBC.com[/url]

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It's big news around here in the Philly area as you can imagine. His older son, the 23 year old, caused a traffic accident and was found to be under the influence of heroin. He could be charged with DUI, a misdemeanor offense.

The 21-year old is accused of pointing a gun at someone during an argument. He's been charged with a felony: carrying a gun without a license, plus lesser charges of being in possession of drugs and being a general ass to police.

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/02/12/bc.fbn.eagles.reidleave.ap/index.html]SI.com - NFL - Eagles' Reid taking leave of absence - Monday February 12, 2007 12:41PM[/url]

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;276782]I pity Andy as I would pity any parent whose kids are acting like idiots and ruining their lives. Maybe when you have kids you'll feel the same way.[/quote]

Well I do have one daughter, though she's not really old enough to get in this kind of trouble, being only 4 months old.

Secondly, I wouldn't want anyone to pity me. Not to open a whole can of worms here, but I'm of the thinking that the actions of the kids reflect upon the parents. If my daughter did something like this, I would accept the fact that it reflects bad on me and the job I did raising her.

It's no coincidence that BOTH of his kids are douchebags. He definitely had a role; should have raised them better.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;276786]Well I do have one daughter, though she's not really old enough to get in this kind of trouble, being only 4 months old.

Secondly, I wouldn't want anyone to pity me. Not to open a whole can of worms here, but I'm of the thinking that the actions of the kids reflect upon the parents. If my daughter did something like this, I would accept the fact that it reflects bad on me and the job I did raising her.

It's no coincidence that BOTH of his kids are douchebags. He definitely had a role; should have raised them better.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough. We're both entitled to our opinions. I just feel sorry for the guy, even if he did screw up as a parent and even if those screwups caused the problems his kids created.

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[quote=Schneed10;276786]Well I do have one daughter, though she's not really old enough to get in this kind of trouble, being only 4 months old.

Secondly, I wouldn't want anyone to pity me. Not to open a whole can of worms here, but I'm of the thinking that the actions of the kids reflect upon the parents. If my daughter did something like this, I would accept the fact that it reflects bad on me and the job I did raising her.

It's no coincidence that BOTH of his kids are douchebags. He definitely had a role; should have raised them better.[/quote]
i have a 19 year old daughter that is constantly in and out of trouble. if there was a manual on how to raise a kid, i wrote it. from being strict on grades, watching her friends, and being totally involved in her life. that was me. my thinkings are you can be the best parent ever. but there comes a time in your child's life when he/ she starts making their own decisions. all you can do is what you think is best for the both of you. ill bet your 4 month old looks like a little princess right now. but until you have walked in someone else's shoes, get off your high horse

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To support dmek on this one with anecdotal evidence, I know a LOT of kids who had great, loving, attentive, and supportive parents whose kids got into a lot of trouble for whatever reason. Conversely, I know a few kids who had the worst and most neglectful parents yet turned out great. Go figure.

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I'm hip Dmec. I have a 17 year old son who was giving us some problems. It degenerated to the point that I had stripped his entire room of ALL furnishings (including his door) except for his mattress. That lasted about a month, and we turned the corner. It WAS bad

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It's really easy for us to sit here and judge the situation but the truth is unless someone here personally knows Andy Reid or his kids I think we should really try to not make any blanket statements as to what kind of parent we think he is.

I think most of us at some point in our lives have screwed up despite how our parents raised us. I can feel for Reid only because I know what I put my parents through... and none of it was their fault.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;276782]I pity Andy as I would pity any parent whose kids are acting like idiots and ruining their lives. Maybe when you have kids you'll feel the same way.[/QUOTE]

23 years old is an adult, not a kid. I feel bad that Reid has sons who are in trouble, but I can't say I pity him. It is his son(s) who I pity more than Reid.

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[quote=dmek25;276828]i have a 19 year old daughter that is constantly in and out of trouble. if there was a manual on how to raise a kid, i wrote it. from being strict on grades, watching her friends, and being totally involved in her life. that was me. my thinkings are you can be the best parent ever. but there comes a time in your child's life when he/ she starts making their own decisions. all you can do is what you think is best for the both of you. ill bet your 4 month old looks like a little princess right now. but until you have walked in someone else's shoes, get off your high horse[/quote]

Easy tiger. Offering opinions is what we do on this site, whether those opinions are judgmental or not.

In Reid's case, I can see how parenting COULD have played a role. I say could because I don't know the full situation. But it would make sense that a football coach who works 70-80 hours a week wasn't there enough for his kids through adolescence. I'm not saying that's the case, but it's a possibility.

Do I feel bad about thinking it reflects poorly on Reid? Absolutely not. That's just life. People judge, I'm a people, and I don't feel badly about it.

I know nothing about your situation. I'm not equipped to give an opinion on the matter.

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I definitely agree that sons and daughters have a mind of their own, and sometimes no matter what the mom & dad do, the kids are going to do what they want to do.

All the parents can do is the best they can. When I say this reflects poorly, I mean that it calls into question whether Andy and his wife truly did the best they could? Doesn't mean anything is necessarily their fault. If they did everything they could, then chalk it up to the kids just being douchebags on their own.

But given his probable lack of availability to his kids, that could be a cause.

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I agree that you can do everything right as a parent and the kid can still turn into a bad apple but the chances are better that the kid will turn out ok. Its just hard to say but knowning the amount of time one spends to run a team or be a coach in the NFL one has to wonder how that effected his kids. I think as this progresses it could lead to him retiring if he decides that him being gone could have played a role in this. He has been in the league for how many years? Alot and thats alot of time from home and alot of time for kids to do what they do when dads not around. The weard thing is that bothe happened on the same day. Yes I do have a 21 year old daughter so I know how it can be. I was lucky that my daughter was one that turned out the way she did.

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hopefully, when your daughter grows and matures, she will be the solution, and not just another problem. someone once told me a long time ago to gather all the facts before jumping to hasty conclusions. that man must have been a prophet or something. good luck in parenting, for your journey is just beginning

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and sometimes its not about the time spent, the amount of quality time spent

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[quote=skinsguy;276845]23 years old is an adult, not a kid. I feel bad that Reid has sons who are in trouble, but I can't say I pity him. It is his son(s) who I pity more than Reid.[/quote]

What is defined as being a kid is subjective anyway. I've seen plenty of 40 year old's who still act like they're 17 and a small handful of 20 year old's who act beyond their years. It's a shame that Andy's kids are putting him through this, though, it's the kind of nightmare every parent fears. Don't like the Eagles at all, but I wish him well through this ordeal.