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[quote=Hail2theskins;269961]a few more things marino did, a lot like that of mr tom brady who you call iceman for making late comebacks:

# Led 37 fourth-quarter comeback victories, second only to John Elway.[/quote]

Not in the playoffs.

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you want some playoff stats?

# Passed for 4,510 yards over career in playoff games[3]
# Threw at least one touchdown pass in sixteen of his eighteen playoff contests, throwing a touchdown pass in his first thirteen postseason contests.

Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady
 

But how about that "Marty Ball" moment--when SD picked the ball off and then fumbled it back to NE. Something like that always happens to Marty in the playoffs!

Brady does it when it counts. He is one cool customer and takes some big hits and keeps slinging. Don't know if he's better than Marino or Montana--that's one of those endless debates--but he's right up there, no doubt. Peyton will be in his shadow unless he wins the big one, IMO.

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[quote=Hail2theskins;269963]you want some playoff stats?

# Passed for 4,510 yards over career in playoff games[3]
# Threw at least one touchdown pass in sixteen of his eighteen playoff contests, throwing a touchdown pass in his first thirteen postseason contests.[/quote]

Those are nice. Now have a look at these.

Post-season records and statistics[LIST][*]NFL record for most consecutive wins in post season: 10 (broke record of Green Bay's Bart Starr).[*]Most consecutive post season wins (college and professional combined): 12[*]NFL record 11-1 in the post-season[*]367 passes attempted[*]225 passes completed[*]2493 passing yards (226.6 ypg)[*]17 passing touchdowns[*]5 passes intercepted[*]73.7 passing attempts per interception in the post-season (lowest rate in NFL history, minimum 250 pass attempts): [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_Starr"][COLOR=#0000ff]Bart Starr[/COLOR][/URL] is second with 71 attempts per post-season interception)[*]3 [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Bowl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Pro Bowls[/COLOR][/URL][*]2 Super Bowl MVP awards[*]3 Super Bowl victories[*]Most completions in a Super Bowl (32 in [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXXVIII"][COLOR=#0000ff]Super Bowl XXXVIII[/COLOR][/URL])[/LIST]

Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady
 

I hate that 4th qaurter come from behind stat,if you were doing good you wouldnt have to come from behind,not denying those are great qbs that hold those records,I just dont like that stat

Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady
 

Brady was always on a better team than Marino. Look at the defense that Brady has always had, except last year, when they went nowhere.

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when brady does it for 16 years let me know, until then im not saying he is on the same level. i will say again, his team is coached extremely well hence why they win football games. brady is a very good qb but he is not the best.

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Remember this is only Brady's sixth season as a starter. He might not be halfway through his career yet.

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[quote=wilsowilso;269969]Remember this is only Brady's sixth season as a starter. He might not be halfway through his career yet.[/quote]

my point exactly, its a little premature to call him the greatest ever, dont ya think? what happens if bellicheck leaves or something and they start losing games and brady turns out to be a flop? then what?

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[quote=steveo395;269967]Brady was always on a better team than Marino. Look at the defense that Brady has always had, except last year, when they went nowhere.[/quote]

NE won a playoff game last year. Look at the recievers Brady is working with right now. They are a bunch of castoffs.

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Brady would be a HOF'er right now if he retired.

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[quote=Hail2theskins;269970]my point exactly, its a little premature to call him the greatest ever, dont ya think? what happens if bellicheck leaves or something and they start losing games and brady turns out to be a flop? then what?[/quote]

Belichik runs the Defense. He has little to do with Tom Brady playing QB.

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i got a tom brady rookie card.:)

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hes the teams head coach, id say thats got some influence on how brady plays... but i mean if all a coach is good for is play calling then why are there even coaches on the field, coaches should just be in the booth. thats like saying gibbs doesnt have an influence over anything cuz i mean he doesnt run the offense or defense.

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Im sooooooooooo sick of greg brady and the brady bunch. Ive NEVER seen a team get away with more than them. Ive never seen a team have more good luck on their side than them. Ill say hes one of the better qbs of late, but thats it. Chargers bad luck and mistakes won the game for the patsys.