Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1351867]EB will either be the HC here next season or coaching offense/HC somewhere else. I just don't see a HC coming in and not bringing someone with him that he has worked with himself. Could be wrong, but I don't see him staying at OC here.[/QUOTE]


I actually don’t either but you never know. Im just saying i think he should be the OC.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1351848]He will run it more I’m thinking but he also trusts Sam to be a dude and he has been. BRob has been very good too. Maybe EB doesn’t think the OL is good enough to run the ball much.. idk


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It sure seems like he thinks the O-line is good enough to drop back and pass 50 times per game - since week 1 though. I guess he can't see the fact that we are averaging basically 5 yards per carry when we do run the ball.

Whatever, as long as he doesn't get Sam killed... Can't help but wonder though, if we had been running the ball more, controlling the clock more, making less mistakes in the passing game, and not piling up the sacks, if the results of some of these close games wouldn't have been different.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

G-1 is an absolute good loser and winner and always congratulates us or takes the high road when they beat us. He doesn’t disappear when it’s convenient than rub it in our faces like sandtrap. G-1 brings plenty to the table here.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=punch it in;1351897]G-1 is an absolute good loser and winner and always congratulates us or takes the high road when they beat us. He doesn’t disappear when it’s convenient than rub it in our faces like sandtrap. G-1 brings plenty to the table here.[/quote]

I agree on both counts.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

There are other threads.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1351896]It sure seems like he thinks the O-line is good enough to drop back and pass 50 times per game - since week 1 though. I guess he can't see the fact that we are averaging basically 5 yards per carry when we do run the ball.

Whatever, as long as he doesn't get Sam killed... Can't help but wonder though, if we had been running the ball more, controlling the clock more, making less mistakes in the passing game, and not piling up the sacks, if the results of some of these close games wouldn't have been different.[/quote]

Agree. And the problem I have is when it’s been brought up, EB’s like he wants to “be and stay aggressive”. Bro a good run game can A) be aggressive and B) cause more aggressive opportunities in the passing game.

Sam is wasting time with the play fakes with 4 to 1 balance. Also, when your offense line is so bad you have to max protect, u are limited.

While EB and Sam have clicked, this offense needs a lot more work. Can EB continue to develop it? I’m not sure

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1351893]Forcing a new HC to retain an old OC is a lot more risky than Howell not being able to handle learning a new offense.

Harris hires GM, GM hires HC and scouting department, HC hires coaching staff.

That has to be the only order. Otherwise, we're doing it ass-backwards Snyder style right off of the bat.[/quote]

I'm not sure there is a single head coach in recent NFL history, other than Belichek, that that handled both the offensive and defensive play calling during games. And he doesn't do either anymore apparently.

If Harris hires a defense oriented head coach (think Ron Rivera 20 years ago or Belichek 30 years ago), that coach might want to retain EB if the offense continues to progress. Assuming the hiring duty is not given to a general manager. But the same line of thinking may apply-- why screw with the offense just when they're starting to "get it."

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1351903]There are other threads.[/QUOTE]


Never seen M in that thread. He was referring to football talk.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=punch it in;1351912]Never seen M in that thread. He was referring to football talk.[/quote]

My comment still holds, there are other threads lol.

Go Howell!

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=punch it in;1351897]G-1 is an [B]absolute loser [/B]He doesn’t disappear when it’s convenient than rub it in our faces like sandtrap.[/quote]

Pretty much

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

After 10 weeks Sam Howell is the leading passer in the NFL... Who would have guessed that???

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1351939]After 10 weeks Sam Howell is the leading passer in the NFL... Who would have guessed that???[/quote]

If you told people that was going to happen at the start of the season, how many would have guessed the W-L correctly? Not many thats for sure

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1351939]After 10 weeks Sam Howell is the leading passer in the NFL... Who would have guessed that???[/quote]

i am assuming by yardage, which he is doing well don't get me wrong, but that stat can be misleading as some QBs have had their BYE weeks and Sam has not

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

What’s the bigger surprise, Sam Howell playing well as a top 3rd of the league QB or the defense being a bottom five unit in the league?

Also, this draft class being a complete bust so far?

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[quote=Chico23231;1351946]What’s the bigger surprise, Sam Howell playing well as a top 3rd of the league QB or the defense being a bottom five unit in the league?

Also, this draft class being a complete bust so far?[/quote]

Both.

Sam shouldn't be slinging it every single game. It is ridiculous that we don't run the ball and have let our running game get this bad. If we had the semblance of a running game, we'd be in much better shape, and Sam would be playing even better.

The defense is, again, a major disappointment. I don't know how JDR still has his job.

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Forbes has potential to be good he’s just young. Also kinda hard to judge since he has maybe the worst DC in the nfl.


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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1351948]Forbes has potential to be good he’s just young. Also kinda hard to judge since he has maybe the worst DC in the nfl.


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Maybe the worst? Oh, he’s the worst.


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Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

EB has Sam playing at a very high level .. even when the D knows we ain’t running ! If this trend continues know way I break that combo up .. If our D had lived up to expectations we would be sitting pretty good right now ..

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1351948]Forbes has potential to be good he’s just young. Also kinda hard to judge since he has maybe the worst DC in the nfl.


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He needs better coaching.....and the coverage schemes are not suited for his talents

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

JDRs coverage schemes are not suited for coverage.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1351966]JDRs coverage schemes are not suited for coverage.[/quote]

We need a young D coordinator.....Jack Del Rio is too prehistoric.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=AnonEmouse;1351966]JDRs coverage schemes are not suited for coverage.[/quote]

:laughing-

I'm also on board with hiring a defensive-minded HC next year and if they want to retain EB I'm fine with it. EB has potential if he would learn the value of the running game. I think he gave up on the run game last week because we were getting 1-2 ypc on first down. But we started having more success at the end of the game.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

Shit I will take a defensive minded DC

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

I'd keep EB as the OC and hire a real HC and DC

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

Washington Commanders QB Sam Howell shrugging off the hits

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38891939/commanders-qb-sam-howell-shrugging-hits[/url]

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

Jay Gruden on Sam Howell: ‘He’s been outstanding’

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/jay-gruden-sam-howell-outstanding-121501561.html[/url]

The Sam Howell Thread
 

[QUOTE=mredskins;1351943]i am assuming by yardage, which he is doing well don't get me wrong, but that stat can be misleading as some QBs have had their BYE weeks and Sam has not[/QUOTE]


He would still be top 4 in yardage if he had and that would entail that stroud, tua, and goff all have 200-280 yards passing in their games during Sams bye.
Mahommes and Dak would need to have huge games to catch him and nobody else would. Even in TD’s he would be top 5 with an even amount of games.
So it maybe a little misleading but he would still be top 3-5.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1351976]Shit I will take a defensive minded DC[/QUOTE]


I prefer position flex coaches who aren’t really honed in on one particular aspect of the game.
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Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[QUOTE]
Ben Standig -

We already know no 2023 team passes more than the Commanders under Eric Bieniemy. Time to expand that distinction — to the entire 21st century.
[/QUOTE]

Well there you go

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=punch it in;1351985]He would still be top 4 in yardage if he had and that would entail that stroud, tua, and goff all have 200-280 yards passing in their games during Sams bye.
Mahommes and Dak would need to have huge games to catch him and nobody else would. Even in TD’s he would be top 5 with an even amount of games.
So it maybe a little misleading but he would still be top 3-5.[/quote]

It's also a factor of being available. He's tough. How many #1 QBs have taken every single meaningful snap this season? If he keeps this up he may lead the league by being last man standing!

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1351981]I'd keep EB as the OC and hire a real HC and DC[/quote]

If he agrees to line up more NOT in the shotgun and runs more while developing real PA passes off said runs?.... sure.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1352047]It's also a factor of being available. He's tough. How many #1 QBs have taken every single meaningful snap this season? If he keeps this up he may lead the league by being last man standing![/QUOTE]


How many have been sacked 50 times and never seem phased! Dude is a tank and the best ability is availability.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=Meks;1352049]If he agrees to line up more NOT in the shotgun and runs more while developing real PA passes off said runs?.... sure.[/quote]

Why should EB agree to anything just to keep his job as the OC here? He didn't come here to be the permanent OC in Washington. He came here to prove himself as a HC candidate. If Ron is fired and EB is passed over as the new HC, I think he'll leave.

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1352080]Why should EB agree to anything just to keep his job as the OC here? He didn't come here to be the permanent OC in Washington. He came here to prove himself as a HC candidate. If Ron is fired and EB is passed over as the new HC, I think he'll leave.[/quote]

did he sign a 1 year deal? or?

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1352082]did he sign a 1 year deal? or?[/quote]

Multi year deal

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[quote=Chico23231;1352084]Multi year deal[/quote]

then it would be up to the team if EB leaves or not if they do not make him the head coach . . . EB can quit, but would be giving up all that $$$. he won't do that, so either he is fired, or the commanders can choose what he is coaching

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 

EB needs to stay, letting him go would be malpractice to Howell

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1352097]EB needs to stay, letting him go would be malpractice to Howell[/quote]

Sam can do it with any capable OC.

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The media never talks about him, it’s alway CJ Stroud. That’s ok, we know what we got.