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[quote=skinsfan69;1310151]A franchise QB makes us a playoff team. We don't have a good enough defense to go real far.[/quote]

Even if you have a good defense without a QB it is irrelevant. The Bears had a great D in the aughts went to a Super Bowl with Grossman but were constantly in a struggle to make the playoffs. Same with Denver. A good D gets you to a place where some years you'll win 10 some years you'll lose 10. Nothing special.

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1310137]Love Russel Wilsons game, he was a top 5 QB for a long time in this league but this year was an odd one. Lots of Seahawk fans and media saying he isnt seeing the field right, lost a step. Him not seeing the field was an odd on bc i thought he excelled at correctly going through progressions, hitting the right guy. Smart pocket passer with that big broken play ability. Complete package.

I am all in for Wilson and thats assuming hes on a down ward trend .. bc the notion we draft a Burrow or herbert is slim. Id rather have fun trying and dying vs another year of having a low end QB.

All that high end investment in the D is really really disappointing. That 5 year approach seems to have fizzled quickly.[/QUOTE]


You know I thought the same thing so i looked at his numbers. He missed 3 games and was a little off when he came back but 65 % completion percentage, 7.8 yards per throw, 25 td’s and 6 picks? Shit if that is an off season ill sign up right now.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1310151]A franchise QB makes us a playoff team. We don't have a good enough defense to go real far.[/QUOTE]


It isn’t like the choice is
A ) get a franchise quarterback
B) address the defense and roll with TH

We can get a franchise quarterback and still upgrade our D thru the draft and or FA.

We get a safety and some linebacker help and our D will be vastly improved. Don’t have to be all pro’s either just above average guys. Our D was improving last year, but we also were missing Sweat and CY for huge amounts of time. Im counting on CY coming back strong, getting some new blood, and maybe Davis taking a step forward in year two. We have continuity in the coaching ranks which should help also. We get Russ, and we are a contender even with last years team. But we also will be getting some new blood thru picks and FA. Don’t underestimate what a franchise quarterback can do for a team though. We see it all the time, it is just never us.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1310154]You're grasping. They have an elite offense to overcome it. They have studs at every skill position.

Remember when we played the Bengals in Burrow's rookie year? The only reason we won that game cause Burrow got hurt. We couldn't stop them and that was before they drafted Chase.[/quote]

We have studs at every skill position other than QB. Put a Joe Burrow type QB in this offense and it's every bit as good as the Bengals'.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1310146]You cant keep saying "we are not that close" [B]A franchise QB makes you close[/B][/quote]

💯💯💯💯💯

If you make the playoffs, you're close. We have Wilson next year we're winning 10ish games. That's close.

I don't even like him (something about him just annoys me) or watching him play (runs around too much behind the LOS for my liking), and I still would absolutely love for him to be our QB next year. He is fucking good. What we have is not even average.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1310174][emoji817][emoji817][emoji817][emoji817][emoji817]

If you make the playoffs, you're close. We have Wilson next year we're winning 10ish games. That's close.

I don't even like him (something about him just annoys me) or watching him play (runs around too much behind the LOS for my liking), and I still would absolutely love for him to be our QB next year. He is fucking good. What we have is not even average.[/QUOTE]


He is better than good SD. He is absolutely elite. Has probably 4-5 years left of great if healthy. I think he keeps plays alive running behind the line of scrimmage. He literally does it all. Runs, accurate, strong arm, smart. Don’t let this season fool you.

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[quote=punch it in;1310176]He is better than good SD. He is absolutely elite. Has probably 4-5 years left of great if healthy. I think he keeps plays alive running behind the line of scrimmage. He literally does it all. Runs, accurate, strong arm, smart. Don’t let this season fool you.[/quote]

"Fucking" was part of my rating.

Fucking good >>> good

Definitely still a top 4-6 QB.

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In the NFC right now, who would you take over RW?

Dak? NO
Stafford? Maybe but probably not
Jimmy? No chance
Hurts? No chance in hell
Daniel Jones? Lol
Cousins? No
Murray? No

The only one would be ARod. That’s a big maybe

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1310179]In the NFC right now, who would you take over RW?

Dak? NO
Stafford? Maybe but probably not
[B]Jimmy? No chance
Hurts? No chance in hell
Daniel Jones? Lol
Cousins? No[/B]
Murray? No

The only one would be ARod. That’s a big maybe[/quote]

Not even sure why these guys were included.

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[quote=punch it in;1310166]It isn’t like the choice is
A ) get a franchise quarterback
B) address the defense and roll with TH

We can get a franchise quarterback and still upgrade our D thru the draft and or FA.

We get a safety and some linebacker help and our D will be vastly improved. Don’t have to be all pro’s either just above average guys. Our D was improving last year, but we also were missing Sweat and CY for huge amounts of time. Im counting on CY coming back strong, getting some new blood, and maybe Davis taking a step forward in year two. We have continuity in the coaching ranks which should help also. We get Russ, and we are a contender even with last years team. But we also will be getting some new blood thru picks and FA. Don’t underestimate what a franchise quarterback can do for a team though. We see it all the time, it is just never us.[/quote]

But again if you are Seattle why would you trade a top QB? Someone give me one legit reason why they'd do it? What do they gain by trading him? Picks that hit less than 50%? They have any old coach. They ain't rebuilding w/ a rookie in a weak QB class. Wilson is out.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1310182]But again if you are Seattle why would you trade a top QB? [B]Someone give me one legit reason why they'd do it?[/B] What do they gain by trading him? Picks that hit less than 50%? They have any old coach. They ain't rebuilding w/ a rookie in a weak QB class. Wilson is out.[/quote]

Because Wilson seems to want out and only stupid/dysfunctional franchise would drag a situation like this out. And Pete Carroll is established enough that the team would give him the time to rebuild.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1310181]Not even sure why these guys were included.[/QUOTE]


Lmao idk was just rambling


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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1310177]"Fucking" was part of my rating.

Fucking good >>> good

Definitely still a top 4-6 QB.[/QUOTE]


Fair enough. Not sure how i missed “fucking” but i did. Totally read it as he is a “good” quarterback.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1310182]But again if you are Seattle why would you trade a top QB? Someone give me one legit reason why they'd do it? What do they gain by trading him? Picks that hit less than 50%? They have any old coach. They ain't rebuilding w/ a rookie in a weak QB class. Wilson is out.[/QUOTE]


Well that is another story. But usually where there is smoke…..

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[quote=Ruhskins;1310183]Because Wilson seems to want out and only stupid/dysfunctional franchise would drag a situation like this out. And Pete Carroll is established enough that the team would give him the time to rebuild.[/quote]

I agree Wilson has been putting out feelers. But it really doesn't mean anything unless Seattle actually wants to trade him. They don't. They can still compete for a SB w/ a few upgrades. The situation there is not dysfunctional like Houston and Watson.

Once he finally got healthy they scored like 90 points their last two games. They're going to trade that for some picks and Daron Payne? 😅

The reality is good ole' Trubumski, a highly drafted player and Taylor. No way would Jimmy G come here cause Kyle would tell him what a loser Dan is.