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[quote=Ruhskins;892010]I wonder if the meeting between Williams and the NFL will play out like the final scene in "A Few Good Men"...

Jeff Pash: Coach Williams, did you order the Code Red?
G. Williams: I did the job I...
Jeff Pash: Did you order the Code Red?!
G. Williams: You're Goddamn right I did!!![/quote]

JP: Sir did you order Sean Taylor to body rock, punish, obliterate, strike fear into, or personally try to injure Dallas players with monetary incentives?

GW: No sir he would have done it for free.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;892018]Son, we live in a world that needs wins. And those wins have to be guarded by men who hand out pain. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Tony Dungy? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Farve and you curse the DCs. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Farves concussion, while tragic, probably provided wins. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves wins...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want those wins. You need me on that sideline.
We use words like honor, code, loyalty...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent producing wins. You use 'em as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of wins I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick you pick up some pads and get on the field. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to![/quote]

Nice!!

Re: New Orleans Saints/Washington Redskins: Bounty Hunters
 

Here is the hit htat came in 2006, that is credited with Manning neck injury.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nBxHse5s74]Peyton Manning's Injury - YouTube[/url]

I would think this may open the door for Maniing to sue the NFL for possible three times what he might lose because of the injury. That could possbily be over 100 million dollars. This could get ugly.

Re: New Orleans Saints/Washington Redskins: Bounty Hunters
 

Holy foxballs!
I didnt know that was VS Washington.

Re: New Orleans Saints/Washington Redskins: Bounty Hunters
 

[quote=T.O.Killa;892025]Here is the hit htat came in 2006, that is credited with Manning neck injury.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nBxHse5s74]Peyton Manning's Injury - YouTube[/url]

I would think this may open the door for Maniing to sue the NFL for possible three times what he might lose because of the injury. That could possbily be over 100 million dollars. This could get ugly.[/quote]

Look at some of the posts under the video, I think more than half the people that watch football, dont even know what the hell they are watching, and just looking at the score.

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[quote=Mattyk;891980]I have a problem with anyone getting extra cash for big hits or for knocking someone out of a game, regardless of uniform.[/quote]

Apparently Phillip Daniels got $1,500 for his best game against Dallas in 05. The pot was made up of players chipping in. Do you have a problem with that? In all walks of business people are rewarded a little extra for performing well. To me this really isn't any different.

Re: New Orleans Saints/Washington Redskins: Bounty Hunters
 

[quote=T.O.Killa;892025]Here is the hit htat came in 2006, that is credited with Manning neck injury.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nBxHse5s74]Peyton Manning's Injury - YouTube[/url]

I would think this may open the door for Maniing to sue the NFL for possible three times what he might lose because of the injury. That could possbily be over 100 million dollars. This could get ugly.[/quote]

Although Williams was behind the bounty program, who is to say that the Redskins linemen had orders to deliberately hurt Manning? In looking at that clip, it looks like a random ordinary NFL play where anything could happen.

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[quote=skinsfan69;892031]Apparently Phillip Daniels got $1,500 for his best game against Dallas in 05. The pot was made up of players chipping in. Do you have a problem with that? In all walks of business people are rewarded a little extra for performing well. To me this really isn't any different.[/quote]

I do, it's illegal, and I'm sure the IRS has an eye on this too since I don't think these guys were claiming the additional income.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;892032]Although Williams was behind the bounty program, [B]who is to say that the Redskins linemen had orders to deliberately hurt Manning?[/B] In looking at that clip, it looks like a random ordinary NFL play where anything could happen.[/quote]

Who's to say they weren't trying to hurt him? That's the problem with all this.

If guys are being rewarded for big hits, and being rewarded even more for knocking a guy out of a game, you almost have to assume that any borderline looking play was dirty and there was intent to injure.

Not sure how you're still not seeing the problem that bounties create.

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[quote=Mattyk;892036]Who's to say they weren't trying to hurt him? That's the problem with all this.

If guys are being rewarded for big hits, and being rewarded even more for knocking a guy out of a game, you almost have to assume that any borderline looking play was dirty and there was intent to injure.

Not sure how you're still not seeing the problem that bounties create.[/quote]

As Laron Landry has shown many times over, going for the big hit also means there is a good chance you are going to whiff on the tackle (people seem to have forgotten this).

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[quote=Mattyk;892034]I do, it's illegal, and I'm sure the IRS has an eye on this too since I don't think these guys were claiming the additional income.[/quote]

You have a problem with incentive programs at the work place? Ok. Make sure to call the IRS if you get a tax free bonus at your workplace!

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[quote=skinsfan69;891979]Fair. But you still wouldn't answer the question, which is fine. I respect your opinion.

I just think that it was ok when Taylor was trying to destroy other teams players... and make NO MISTAKE about it... when he was hitting someone, he was doing it with the intent to HURT the opposing player. Not end a career, but take him out a few plays or whatever. And WE ALL cheered when he did it and that's what we loved him for, his intimidating ruthless style. He probbaly got extra cash for it. But when a Saints player does it, he's doing it with the intent to end a career. I think we have some hypocrites here.[/quote]

You continue to fail to see the line. If a player has a mindset (separate from what coaches are telling him to do) that he's gonna go out and headhunt, that's a whole different story. In that case, it's up to the coach to keep that same fire burning in the player, but coach him up to be smart and not do things that will cost the team, i.e. 15 yard penalties, suspensions, etc.

It's a whole different story when a coach is actually encouraging and paying guys to go try to get someone carted off the field. It's so wrong.

Re: New Orleans Saints/Washington Redskins: Bounty Hunters
 

[quote=Mattyk;892036]Who's to say they weren't trying to hurt him? That's the problem with all this.

If guys are being rewarded for big hits, and being rewarded even more for knocking a guy out of a game, you almost have to assume that any borderline looking play was dirty and there was intent to injure.

[B]Not sure how you're still not seeing the problem that bounties create.[/B][/quote]

It's pretty amazing.

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[quote=GMScud;892040]You continue to fail to see the line. If a player has a mindset (separate from what coaches are telling him to do) that he's gonna go out and headhunt, that's a whole different story. In that case, it's up to the coach to keep that same fire burning in the player, but coach him up to be smart and not do things that will cost the team, i.e. 15 yard penalties, suspensions, etc.

It's a whole different story when a coach is actually encouraging and paying guys to go try to get someone carted off the field. It's so wrong.[/quote]

It's like a platoon sergeant telling his soldiers to shoot by-standing citizens.

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[quote=skinsfan69;892039]You have a problem with incentive programs at the work place? Ok. Make sure to call the IRS if you get a tax free bonus at your workplace![/quote]

Huh?