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jamf 11-06-2023 08:30 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Sam’s worked his way up from jiffy lube to discount tires.

sdskinsfan2001 11-06-2023 08:32 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=jamf;1351322]Sam’s worked his way up from jiffy lube to discount tires.[/quote]

LOL, you crack me up man.

This post is actually the nicest thing you've ever said about him...if changing tires is in-fact a promotion from changing oil.

One day, Howell, Jamf, and me will see some Glitties together. It's going to be epic.

KI Skins Fan 11-07-2023 07:37 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Here is a nice video of John Keim talking with Nicki Jhabvala about Sam Howell:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo7m7u-uZlo[/url]

punch it in 11-07-2023 08:41 AM

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1351323]LOL, you crack me up man.

This post is actually the nicest thing you've ever said about him...if changing tires is in-fact a promotion from changing oil.

One day, Howell, Jamf, and me will see some Glitties together. It's going to be epic.[/QUOTE]


Im not a mechanic but yea i believe oil changes are before tires. The tire machines are no joke. Alot more to tires than oil changes.
By the end of the year Jamf will have him doing transmissions.

skinsfaninok 11-07-2023 10:51 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Doug Farrar ✍
@NFL_DougFarrar
Two quarterbacks since Week 4 of the 2023 NFL season.

QB1: 141 completions in 206 attempts (68.4%) for 1,623 yards (7.9 YPA), 11 touchdowns, five interceptions, 13 big-time throws, and a passer rating of 99.6.

QB2: 170 completions in 254 attempts (66.9%) for 1,800 yards (7.1 YPA), 11 touchdowns, four interceptions, 18 big-time throws, and a passer rating of 95.3.

QB1 is Tua Tagovailoa.
QB2 is Sam Howell.

punch it in 11-07-2023 11:30 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Slingin Sammy Howell…

skinsfaninok 11-07-2023 12:17 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=punch it in;1351342]Slingin Sammy Howell…[/quote]

Has a ring to it

rocnrik 11-07-2023 12:30 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1351341]Doug Farrar ✍
@NFL_DougFarrar
Two quarterbacks since Week 4 of the 2023 NFL season.

QB1: 141 completions in 206 attempts (68.4%) for 1,623 yards (7.9 YPA), 11 touchdowns, five interceptions, 13 big-time throws, and a passer rating of 99.6.

QB2: 170 completions in 254 attempts (66.9%) for 1,800 yards (7.1 YPA), 11 touchdowns, four interceptions, 18 big-time throws, and a passer rating of 95.3.

QB1 is Tua Tagovailoa.
QB2 is Sam Howell.[/quote]
That still ain’t enough for some … He wasn’t a first round pick .. don’t you know anything??😳😀

mredskins 11-07-2023 12:57 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1351341]Doug Farrar ✍
@NFL_DougFarrar
Two quarterbacks since Week 4 of the 2023 NFL season.

QB1: 141 completions in 206 attempts (68.4%) for 1,623 yards (7.9 YPA), 11 touchdowns, five interceptions, 13 big-time throws, and a passer rating of 99.6.

QB2: 170 completions in 254 attempts (66.9%) for 1,800 yards (7.1 YPA), 11 touchdowns, four interceptions, 18 big-time throws, and a passer rating of 95.3.

QB1 is Tua Tagovailoa.
QB2 is Sam Howell.[/quote]
those are good stats but not sure what Farrar is trying to say; why did he pick those two? He doesnt say they are the two best from week 4

Also what is the qualifier for "big time throws" ?

skinsfaninok 11-07-2023 01:46 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=mredskins;1351347]those are good stats but not sure what Farrar is trying to say; why did he pick those two? He doesnt say they are the two best from week 4

Also what is the qualifier for "big time throws" ?[/quote]

BTT's are throws into tight windows like in man covg or zone but the defender is less than 2 yards away

punch it in 11-07-2023 02:44 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[QUOTE=mredskins;1351347]those are good stats but not sure what Farrar is trying to say; why did he pick those two? He doesnt say they are the two best from week 4

Also what is the qualifier for "big time throws" ?[/QUOTE]


Tua is the best quarterback in football right now in many categories. I think it was meant to be a comparison between Sam and the best statistical quarterback.

Chico23231 11-07-2023 03:06 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1351348]BTT's are throws into tight windows like in man covg or zone but the defender is less than 2 yards away[/quote]

It’s a PFF stat?

Couple elite traits…ball placement and throwing with anticipation, makes Sam a step above other young QB.

This is also a second system Sam been in 2 years and he has seemed to pick up EB fairly quickly.

Folks, we need to build around Sam.

punch it in 11-07-2023 04:00 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1351351]It’s a PFF stat?

Couple elite traits…ball placement and throwing with anticipation, makes Sam a step above other young QB.

This is also a second system Sam been in 2 years and he has seemed to pick up EB fairly quickly.

Folks, we need to build around Sam.[/QUOTE]


Jamf has been telling SF this forever. SF just don’t wanna listen.

skinsfaninok 11-07-2023 08:46 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1351351]It’s a PFF stat?

Couple elite traits…ball placement and throwing with anticipation, makes Sam a step above other young QB.

This is also a second system Sam been in 2 years and he has seemed to pick up EB fairly quickly.

Folks, we need to build around Sam.[/QUOTE]


Yeah PFF


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Chico23231 11-08-2023 07:45 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Even though we are seeing the best QB play, throws, etc since You Know Who (Cousins), remember Sam is doing this in his second year, Cousins didn’t shine until his 4th year

Sam is way ahead of Cousins

EdmundDorf 11-08-2023 08:07 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
More data

[QUOTE]
Next Gen Stats -

DID YOU KNOW? 💡

Sam Howell is responsible for five completions with a completion probability under 20% this season, most in the NFL.
[/QUOTE]

Chief X_Phackter 11-08-2023 08:29 AM

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1351387]More data[/quote]

Says a lot about his receivers too. My guess is McLaurin is on the receiving end of most of those.

skinsfaninok 11-08-2023 01:50 PM

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The national media is all in on the Howell hype now. Rightfully so, the dude has been on a tear the last few weeks. If he keeps this up we can make a playoff push

skinsfaninok 11-08-2023 02:16 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[url]https://x.com/the33rdteamfb/status/1722291768295637271?s=46[/url]

Idk who the 33rd team is but their QB rankings are AWFUL

Howell behind Love and Jones?? Lmao that’s a joke. Honestly he should be right under or right above baker (who is surprisingly balling this yr)


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SFREDSKIN 11-08-2023 02:30 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1351385]Even though we are seeing the best QB play, throws, etc since You Know Who (Cousins), remember Sam is doing this in his second year, Cousins didn’t shine until his 4th year

Sam is way ahead of Cousins[/quote]

Like I’ve been saying, he’s the second coming of Joey T. Will be better than Cousins, we haven’t had a QB like this since Joey T. He’s the real deal. People laughed at me when I said he was better than the majority or rookies and veterans. He’s probing it.

CRedskinsRule 11-08-2023 09:35 PM

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1351387]More data[/quote]

The problem with this data point (most completions of low probability passes) is that statistics almost always come back to a norm. He may be making some of those passes but throwing it at the wrong moment could end a playoff run quicker than Romo taking a snap in December

SFREDSKIN 11-09-2023 10:33 AM

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But he sucks and should work at Jiffy Lube.

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/commanders-sam-howell-could-challenge-for-being-best-late-round-qb-since-tom-brady/?fbclid=IwAR20WVUn0vFysPcKPqWapVmO8C2_hxyNvB13dswR06pMam-Y4-OfuH77yLw_aem_ASTYMrFKAMAHt1IKVdKjmLwvANdyp52XvxOFggFKqFNActfy6qus0srpWXMB10PxHEk&mibextid=Zxz2cZ#lorci60tttl7mt477to[/url]

mredskins 11-09-2023 11:42 AM

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I think Sam week by week looks more like the real deal, again i say give him a full season and lets see what we have

What is great about him being a late rounder is that he cost us nothing really, which allows us to build around him versus paying a big time FA and having no more $$$$

fingers crossed

mredskins 11-09-2023 07:18 PM

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as a person subject to a lot of bmore games due to my viewing area

SH>LJ

rocnrik 11-09-2023 09:51 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1351435]But he sucks and should work at Jiffy Lube.

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/commanders-sam-howell-could-challenge-for-being-best-late-round-qb-since-tom-brady/?fbclid=IwAR20WVUn0vFysPcKPqWapVmO8C2_hxyNvB13dswR06pMam-Y4-OfuH77yLw_aem_ASTYMrFKAMAHt1IKVdKjmLwvANdyp52XvxOFggFKqFNActfy6qus0srpWXMB10PxHEk&mibextid=Zxz2cZ#lorci60tttl7mt477to[/url][/quote]

I don’t give a rats ask ..😀what the doubters say !!! We got our QB !!! The first “bad game” he has they will be back on here bangin there drum … 99% of us who actually watch the games and know something about Football allready know … Sam is the man !!!

REDSKINS4ever 11-12-2023 02:14 PM

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[quote=mredskins;1351436]I think Sam week by week looks more like the real deal, again i say give him a full season and lets see what we have

What is great about him being a late rounder is that he cost us nothing really, which allows us to build around him versus paying a big time FA and having no more $$$$

fingers crossed[/quote]

It begs the question: why did Rivera wait until the final game last year to play Howell ? If he hhad played him in 2022 some of the mistakes he's currently making would be cleaned up by now.

Chico23231 11-12-2023 02:41 PM

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1351510]It begs the question: why did Rivera wait until the final game last year to play Howell ? If he hhad played him in 2022 some of the mistakes he's currently making would be cleaned up by now.[/quote]

Because he is simply not a great coach and Turner wasn’t a great OC.

It’s embarrassing Ron had to be talked into playing him in the last game of last season. What a complete moron

jamf 11-12-2023 03:15 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1351435]But he sucks and should work at Jiffy Lube.

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/commanders-sam-howell-could-challenge-for-being-best-late-round-qb-since-tom-brady/?fbclid=IwAR20WVUn0vFysPcKPqWapVmO8C2_hxyNvB13dswR06pMam-Y4-OfuH77yLw_aem_ASTYMrFKAMAHt1IKVdKjmLwvANdyp52XvxOFggFKqFNActfy6qus0srpWXMB10PxHEk&mibextid=Zxz2cZ#lorci60tttl7mt477to[/url][/quote]

It’s bullshit. He isn’t better than Cousins!
Clickbait for you fanboys.

mredskins 11-12-2023 03:17 PM

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1351512]Because he is simply not a great coach and Turner wasn’t a great OC.

It’s embarrassing Ron had to be talked into playing him in the last game of last season. What a complete moron[/QUOTE



Maybe sitting helped last year

TH 100% didn’t want play that game last year , career wise he was better off sitting that game , so the whole being a good guy and talking RR into starting SH was really low key self serving

jamf 11-12-2023 03:21 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1351512]Because he is simply not a great coach and Turner wasn’t a great OC.

It’s embarrassing Ron had to be talked into playing him in the last game of last season. What a complete moron[/quote]

To be fair, Heiniki is a better QB for turners F up system and this shitty line.
Dude could scramble and make plays while Howell has the pocket awareness of a blind man.

skinsfan69 11-12-2023 03:23 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=jamf;1351519]It’s bullshit. He isn’t better than Cousins!
Clickbait for you fanboys.[/quote]

I do have to agree w/ you. It's just some click bait bs. He hasn't even started a full season yet. Just let it play out, one way or the other.

And sorry but Sam isn't better than Lamar at this point in his career. Lamar is a former NFL MVP. Maybe he will be better one day. We'll see.

mredskins 11-12-2023 03:27 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1351522]I do have to agree w/ you. It's just some click bait bs. He hasn't even started a full season yet. Just let it play out, one way or the other.

And sorry but Sam isn't better than Lamar at this point in his career. Lamar is a former NFL MVP. Maybe he will be better one day. We'll see.[/quote]

That mvp is the biggest fraud honor in the history of the nfl

Lamar has been holding on to that mvp award now for 4 years ; hasn’t dint jack shit since

Dude can’t throw anything over 20 yards

mredskins 11-12-2023 07:33 PM

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Ok I am on the Howell train officially

mredskins 11-12-2023 07:34 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Ok I am on the Howell train now! LFG!

CRedskinsRule 11-12-2023 07:42 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Howell needs a defense. And a coach that knows how to disguise plays.

Chico23231 11-12-2023 07:53 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1351735]Howell needs a defense. And a coach that knows how to disguise plays.[/quote]

Also an Oline…Howell was running for his life most the day. The guy is tough.

Chris Paul on roller skates all day. Cosmi not picking up stunts.

PorkSkins 11-12-2023 07:56 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1351748]Also an Oline…Howell was running for his life most the day. The guy is tough.

Chris Paul on roller skates all day. Cosmi not picking up stunts.[/quote]

I'm not saying all, but a good bit of this foolishness we see every Sunday is on coaching. That's why I'm not gonna target or single too many players. This is a bottom 5 coaching staff. This staff is bad!

skinsfaninok 11-12-2023 08:06 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Keep Howell with EB. Both are good together. They are the only two reasons this team is even remotely enjoyable to watch.


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CRedskinsRule 11-12-2023 08:12 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1351756]Keep Howell with EB. Both are good together. They are the only two reasons this team is even remotely enjoyable to watch.


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I really would like to see EB as interim HC tomorrow, then let the ownership determine the next step over the last games. I know a lot of criticism goes to EB, but he came into an offense with a shit OLine, a 5th rounder as a starting QB, and no defense to support the offense.

I am okay if he is gone after the end of the season, but I think Rivera just needs to go, and EB would be the right guy to lead the last part of the season.

SFREDSKIN 11-12-2023 08:14 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1351756]Keep Howell with EB. Both are good together. They are the only two reasons this team is even remotely enjoyable to watch.


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Howell doesn't need EB, he can do it on his own, he's proven it.


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