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The ironic thing is that i have been a djax supporter all year. When everyone wanted his ass cut / gone / traded. And for what? A hammy? But last nights BLUNDER OF THE YEAR is excusable?!?

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What's with the 8 man fronts? Three tackles....how often do they pass out of that formation? The defense knows that the run is coming. The play calling is so non creative and predictable!

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[quote=punch it in;1131966]Dallas has the second ranked pass d and in yards allowed. They are no joke. Tony Romo does not play D.
Can you imagine if Djax had fielded the punt, and than Cousins snapped the ball on first down and avoiding a rush ran backwards 23 yards trying to keep the play alive? But wait than fumbled the ball on our own 7 yard line? Lmao. You say im harping on djax. I feel he is getting a huge pass.[/quote]

I'm just sick of these last minute situations happening because the team can get its shit together earlier in the game and wasting opportunities given to them by the offense.

I was pissed off about DJax blunder too. But I'm more upset at seeing the 3 takeaways with only 3 points to show for. And I'm more upset at this because:
a) it has happened before, b) the DJax blunder probably won't happen again, and c) the team will very likely again have a similar game again this season.

I can say the same thing about the missed FG by Hopkins.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1131968]What's with the 8 man fronts? Three tackles....how often do they pass out of that formation? The defense knows that the run is coming. The play calling is so non creative and predictable![/quote]

alot of that had to do with us being down to JReed and no other TE's because Carrier was out. I know injuries aren't an excuse, but at the same time, when 1 position group is hit especially hard it creates its own issues.

How ironic is it to believe that JReed is our only healthy tight end!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1131972]alot of that had to do with us being down to JReed and no other TE's because Carrier was out. I know injuries aren't an excuse, but at the same time, when 1 position group is hit especially hard it creates its own issues.

How ironic is it to believe that JReed is our only healthy tight end![/quote]

Yeah.....indeed....

But when they are in this formation it's a dead giveaway to the defense that they are going to run. They won't even call a play action pass and hit the running back in the flat...or find a T on an out pattern....instead they run right at the defense for a minimal gain.

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If we end up 8-8 it's a good season for this team, even 7-9 is good. I honestly don't care if we win the division because we r not a good enough team to make a run anyway. Plus we would most likely play Seattle or GB and we ain't beating them.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1131975]Yeah.....indeed....

But when they are in this formation it's a dead giveaway to the defense that they are going to run. They won't even call a play action pass and hit the running back in the flat...or find a T on an out pattern....instead they run right at the defense for a minimal gain.[/quote]

agreed, although we did see several naked bootlegs off that as the game went on, and they were successful, minus the bogus crackback block penalty.

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If our pass protection had been better, Jackson probably has 1-2 TD receptions and the game is out of reach for Dallas before the 4th quarter begins.

This game was a mediocre Dallas team hanging around with a team that once again couldn't get out of their own way and in the end made 1-2 plays to win a razor thin close game.

That was the only way Dallas was going to win. Our entire gameplan on offense played right into what Dallas was hoping for. Our plan looked like we were so scared of losing that we refused to go out and win.

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There is no one answer to why we lost. We are all just prioritizing different points. All that shows is how fucking terrible we played. We stunk up the joint last night all over the field on offense and special teams. It was pathetic. We are still the Redskins, better than last year, but we were 4-12. Hard to be worse.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1131971]I'm just sick of these last minute situations happening because the team can get its shit together earlier in the game and wasting opportunities given to them by the offense.



I was pissed off about DJax blunder too. But I'm more upset at seeing the 3 takeaways with only 3 points to show for. And I'm more upset at this because:

a) it has happened before, b) the DJax blunder probably won't happen again, and c) the team will very likely again have a similar game again this season.



I can say the same thing about the missed FG by Hopkins.[/QUOTE]


I agree with everything but in the big picture if we thought this team was "at best" a six win team before the season - well than u have to now still feel that way. This is that team. Dont be so sure about DJax not doing this again either. There are plenty of college teammates and eagle fans that werent surprised in the slightest. Christ he just pulled a stunt similar last week against the Gints. It is a pattern that has followed him his entire career. I thought that he had matured as a Skin. I was wrong. I also mentioned before that of the three turnovers we got points on one. We should have gotten points on another but the refs screwed us. We are about 5-7 players/starters away from fielding a seriously competitive team. A couple of those guys are already here but hurt. Watch what SM does with FA and the draft. We will be damn good next year. All this being said - smile because we still control our own destiny in a true rebuilding year. That is just a bonus. HTTR

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1131976]If we end up 8-8 it's a good season for this team, even 7-9 is good. I honestly don't care if we win the division because we r not a good enough team to make a run anyway. Plus we would most likely play Seattle or GB and we ain't beating them.[/QUOTE]


Playing them or minnesota. Also remember we would play them at home. Im more concerned about winning atleast 2 of 4 because 3 are on the road. If we do manage to win the division than throw it all out the window. Anything can happen if we get in.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1131986]Playing them or minnesota. Also remember we would play them at home. Im more concerned about winning atleast 2 of 4 because 3 are on the road. If we do manage to win the division than throw it all out the window. Anything can happen if we get in.[/QUOTE]
Well this Sunday we will see if jay can actually win a damn road game. If we lose then we are out of it imo. I think we have to beat philly and dallas for sure then we'll need a win from Chicago or buffalo and I'd say all 4 games are a toss up. We could easily lose them all

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1131988]Well this Sunday we will see if jay can actually win a damn road game. If we lose then we are out of it imo. I think we have to beat philly and dallas for sure then we'll need a win from Chicago or buffalo and I'd say all 4 games are a toss up. We could easily lose them all[/QUOTE]


We sure could Okie. 7-9 could very well win this division though also. Gonna be a rat race. Lol. Hey im just glad we are part of it.

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Yeah that's y I'm not so mad today. I woke up and we were still in 1st. We control our destiny.

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Pretty hacked off about the loss. No excuse for playing so flat, dumb penalties, and for the completely unimaginative play calling. We had a chance TO ELIMINATE DALLAS ONCE AND FOR ALL this season and we didn't take it. We had a chance to actually win back-to-back games for the first time in I cannot recall and we didn't take it. We had a chance to go up two games in the division with only a few weeks remaining and we didn't take it.

In sum, we had a chance to actually show we're a team that has taken the next step from the shit show it has been for two decades (with the exception of the 2012 7 game win streak, which now seems a fluke) to something approximating a real NFL franchise -- and we didn't take it.

Against the Cowboys. At home. On national tv.

If you're not sick about this game, you should be.

I get it -- we've been better than last year (competitive in most games, already more Ws, etc.). And we seem to have some parts coming together which bodes well for the future.

But c'mon -- you play this game for the opportunity to go out and compete on nights like last night, and we just didn't. D played reasonably well, but couldn't make stops in the end. Special teams was pretty crappy. Offense was largely uninspired and couldn't get much going all night.

We had very good opportunities to win against Miami, Atlanta, and now Dallas. Winning those games is the difference between 5-7 and 8-4 -- in other words, from being a mediocre (at best) team to a winning team in command of our division. We have been the former for so long, many of us are starved for the latter. Knowing that we may get there in 2016 or 2017 is cold comfort when the opportunity was there in 2015.

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[QUOTE=calia;1132002]Pretty hacked off about the loss. No excuse for playing so flat, dumb penalties, and for the completely unimaginative play calling. We had a chance TO ELIMINATE DALLAS ONCE AND FOR ALL this season and we didn't take it. We had a chance to actually win back-to-back games for the first time in I cannot recall and we didn't take it. We had a chance to go up two games in the division with only a few weeks remaining and we didn't take it.



In sum, we had a chance to actually show we're a team that has taken the next step from the shit show it has been for two decades (with the exception of the 2012 7 game win streak, which now seems a fluke) to something approximating a real NFL franchise -- and we didn't take it.



Against the Cowboys. At home. On national tv.



If you're not sick about this game, you should be.



I get it -- we've been better than last year (competitive in most games, already more Ws, etc.). And we seem to have some parts coming together which bodes well for the future.



But c'mon -- you play this game for the opportunity to go out and compete on nights like last night, and we just didn't. D played reasonably well, but couldn't make stops in the end. Special teams was pretty crappy. Offense was largely uninspired and couldn't get much going all night.



We had very good opportunities to win against Miami, Atlanta, and now Dallas. Winning those games is the difference between 5-7 and 8-4 -- in other words, from being a mediocre (at best) team to a winning team in command of our division. We have been the former for so long, many of us are starved for the latter. Knowing that we may get there in 2016 or 2017 is cold comfort when the opportunity was there in 2015.[/QUOTE]


Just out of curiosity how many games did you think this particular group of Redskins was going to win before the season,(and overwhelming amount of gametime lost to injuries)?

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I figured about 6 or 7. Obviously injuries are a problem, especially for a team without real depth. And I would be the first to say that there are certain aspects of our season where the team has outperformed expectations -- e.g., the kicking game (save for yesterday), our secondary (only 1 300 yard passer so far this season), Crowder, and the Scherff-Moses tandem on the right O line. But I still believe that they could do more with what they have, and watching flat performances like last night is beyond frustrating.

BTW, I note that the Bears seem eerily similar to the Redskins right now in certain respects (5-7 record, just lost a close one against a team they were expected to beat at home): [url=http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-afterfurtherreview/Bears-intend-to-bounce-back-from-loss/a6c22da5-1520-4ced-b755-87a5cafe80bd]Bears intend to bounce back from loss[/url]

We will see the kind of character this team has on Sunday.

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[quote=calia;1132002]Pretty hacked off about the loss. No excuse for playing so flat, dumb penalties, and for the completely unimaginative play calling. We had a chance TO ELIMINATE DALLAS ONCE AND FOR ALL this season and we didn't take it. We had a chance to actually win back-to-back games for the first time in I cannot recall and we didn't take it. We had a chance to go up two games in the division with only a few weeks remaining and we didn't take it.

In sum, we had a chance to actually show we're a team that has taken the next step from the shit show it has been for two decades (with the exception of the 2012 7 game win streak, which now seems a fluke) to something approximating a real NFL franchise -- and we didn't take it.

Against the Cowboys. At home. On national tv.

If you're not sick about this game, you should be.

I get it -- we've been better than last year (competitive in most games, already more Ws, etc.). And we seem to have some parts coming together which bodes well for the future.

But c'mon -- you play this game for the opportunity to go out and compete on nights like last night, and we just didn't. D played reasonably well, but couldn't make stops in the end. Special teams was pretty crappy. Offense was largely uninspired and couldn't get much going all night.

We had very good opportunities to win against Miami, Atlanta, and now Dallas. Winning those games is the difference between 5-7 and 8-4 -- in other words, from being a mediocre (at best) team to a winning team in command of our division. We have been the former for so long, many of us are starved for the latter. Knowing that we may get there in 2016 or 2017 is cold comfort when the opportunity was there in 2015.[/quote]

Simply put, I imagine this is how Dallas fans felt when we beat them last year.

It was a division game, and we lost. That's frustrating. The team seems to be making small steps every week, even in last night's loss.

But I will say this, I expect us to beat both the Bears and the Bills in the next 2 weeks. I think this loss gives the team that much push to succeed.

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[QUOTE=calia;1132008]I figured about 6 or 7. Obviously injuries are a problem, especially for a team without real depth. And I would be the first to say that there are certain aspects of our season where the team has outperformed expectations -- e.g., the kicking game (save for yesterday), our secondary (only 1 300 yard passer so far this season), Crowder, and the Scherff-Moses tandem on the right O line. But I still believe that they could do more with what they have, and watching flat performances like last night is beyond frustrating.



BTW, I note that the Bears seem eerily similar to the Redskins right now in certain respects (5-7 record, just lost a close one against a team they were expected to beat at home): [url=http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-afterfurtherreview/Bears-intend-to-bounce-back-from-loss/a6c22da5-1520-4ced-b755-87a5cafe80bd]Bears intend to bounce back from loss[/url]



We will see the kind of character this team has on Sunday.[/QUOTE]


Before the season with group A you thought 6-7 wins.
Season starts and we have huge amounts of injuries to group A.
Week 13 - 5 wins for Group A and you are expecting more.
It is illogical as Dr Spock would say.
You are suffering from a reality check. Lol. The good news is that Group A is in first place. That is something completely unexpected. Every game is a playoff game now. We will hope for the best. We were bound to lose at home and we are bound to win on the road.

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So your view is that whatever guesses I (or anyone else on this forum) might make before a single regular season snap about the number of wins should set our expectations for the entire season, irrespective of what we see transpire on the field?

Yes, I thought 6 or 7 wins (and that may turn out to be exactly right). But I also saw better QB play, special teams, and secondary play than I was expecting, which offset somewhat the injuries that we have had throughout the season. And expectations can change over time. For example, I didn't expect we would beat NE this season. But before this season began, I thought we'd be competitive with the Panthers (whose offense hasn't been scary), but by the time that game rolled around, I changed my mind. So yes, I think expecting the team to win last night against a Dallas team with talent but that had not played well this season and was on the brink of elimination wasn't too much to ask -- no matter how many wins I thought were possible in August.

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To be fair, it's hard to have a strong hard count when you are more likely to get a false start than offsides. This isn't the first team o-line.

And I don't care if we were 2-9 coming into the game, there was no reason they shouldn't have come out looking for a fight. That was weak.. They laid down right when it mattered. Joe Barry and Perry Fewell are doing a hell of a job coaching a lot of guys up and they played with fire so I'm excited about that but the offense and special teams needs the same.

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[QUOTE=calia;1132012]So your view is that whatever guesses I (or anyone else on this forum) might make before a single regular season snap about the number of wins should set our expectations for the entire season, irrespective of what we see transpire on the field?



Yes, I thought 6 or 7 wins (and that may turn out to be exactly right). But I also saw better QB play, special teams, and secondary play than I was expecting, which offset somewhat the injuries that we have had throughout the season. And expectations can change over time. For example, I didn't expect we would beat NE this season. But before this season began, I thought we'd be competitive with the Panthers (whose offense hasn't been scary), but by the time that game rolled around, I changed my mind. So yes, I think expecting the team to win last night against a Dallas team with talent but that had not played well this season and was on the brink of elimination wasn't too much to ask -- no matter how many wins I thought were possible in August.[/QUOTE]


You must take injuries into account the same way you take better play than you expected.
My point was simply that the team you expected to win 6-7 games probably will. It isnt a knock on you or anyone else on the board. Sorry if you take it as one. All that "better play" than you expected must be a result of coaching up the young guys which bodes very well for a young team on the rise.
Just for the record I expected to win last night in a big way. I completely underrated Dallas D. However I am trying to look at the season as a whole. If we finish with 8-9 wins I will consider it a huge success. I already consider it a success for one reason alone. This team would destroy last years team which means that under the current regime we are making strides. I dont give a shit about same old redskins chatter because it is not fair to compare this team to any other in Skins history except last years team. New players, coaches, gm. This is year two. Next year I expect to see a team that would lay this one to waste. HTTR
Edit : i never felt that way when Shanny, Zorn, Gibbs 2.0 were here. Never felt we were building the rite way. This offseason is the biggest offseason for this team in years imo.

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What I saw was the Redskins got out coached big time! we had no answer for the pass rush..In fact Kirk played darn well with the amount of pressure he was getting. Our D played well..we won the turnover battle yet could do nothing with it ..The play calling was bad ..This loss is on Gruden.

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1132015]What I saw was the Redskins got out coached big time! we had no answer for the pass rush..In fact Kirk played darn well with the amount of pressure he was getting. Our D played well..we won the turnover battle yet could do nothing with it ..The play calling was bad ..This loss is on Gruden.[/QUOTE]


Gruden did not run backwards and fumble the ball costing us a chance to win and 7 the other way. Gruden did not miss a fg. Gruden did not halt two drives with two of the most disgusting calls of the year. Those four things amount to about a 10-20 point swing, even in a game dominated by defense. He pulled almo n put in jones which was the rite thing to do. KC missed two deep passes by mere inches. I think after the initial and completely out of the ordinary onslaught of blitzes by Dallas he adjusted well. Personnel is just as important as scheme and we do not have the personnel yet. It is not as easy as we make it sound to just do something that works all the time. Once SM builds alittle more I think he n Gruden will make wonderful music together. It is easy to point fingers and blame things on this guy or that guy but the reality is we do not have the personnel yet. That is unfortunately going to take more than two years.

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Of course I am upset about the loss, but it's more because it just confirms that the team is still who they largely have been. I had no illusions that this was a 9-7 team. Just because the rest of the division if poor, it doesn't make us better than we were going to be, it just gives us an opportunity to win the division despite still being that kind of team.

We have to face the fact that whatever team wins the NFC East in 2015 is going to stumble backwards into it. None of them are going to go on any kind of run and establish themselves.

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[quote=rocnrik;1132015]What I saw was the Redskins got out coached big time! we had no answer for the pass rush..In fact Kirk played darn well with the amount of pressure he was getting. Our D played well..we won the turnover battle yet could do nothing with it ..The play calling was bad ..This loss is on Gruden.[/quote]

I've been a Gruden defender, but last night's game really pissed me off.

I hated the offensive game plan, and the play calling.

Gruden and McVay don't go back to plays or concepts that work or burn teams.

They were killing them with boot, and short passing game.

I guess it was working too well so they need to mix it up? SMH.

If it's working, DO IT, DON'T STOP DOING IT.

EDIT:

Just heard Cooley throw out the stat that we ran the ball 75% on 1st down at 1.8 yards per carry.

I really don't understand this staff sometimes. At times they seem dynamic and innovative and last night they seemed dumb.

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[quote=FRPLG;1131892]We gotta get a center and a playmaker for the defense in the next draft.[/quote]

You are right and here's what I would do if I was Scot:

Sign Alex Mack in FA to be our center
Draft Josh Garnett (Stanford) as our LG, I guarantee you we would have the best OL in the NFL.

Re-sign Morris now that he has a heck of line.

Cut Lauvao and McRib.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1132021]You are right and here's what I would do if I was Scot:



Sign Alex Mack in FA to be our center

Draft Josh Garnett (Stanford) as our LG, I guarantee you we would have the best OL in the NFL.



Re-sign Morris now that he has a heck of line.



Cut Lauvao and McRib.[/QUOTE]


How did I know your solution would have something to do with Stanford. Lol. Why cut Lauvao? Depth depth n more depth.

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[quote=punch it in;1132022]How did I know your solution would have something to do with Stanford. Lol. Why cut Lauvao? Depth depth n more depth.[/quote]

Garnett is the best LG in college who happens to play at Stanford where many Current OL have come out of. Mack went to Cal and is a proven pro. We make those moves it's back to the hog glory years. We will have the cash next year, Morris can be resigned on the cheap after 2 subpar years.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1132025]Garnett is the best LG in college who happens to play at Stanford where many Current OL have come out of. Mack went to Cal and is a proven pro. We make those moves it's back to the hog glory years. We will have the cash next year, Morris can be resigned on the cheap after 2 subpar years.[/QUOTE]


Sounds good to me.
OLine and MLB, edge rusher. Need need need.

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[quote=punch it in;1132026]Sounds good to me.
OLine and MLB, edge rusher. Need need need.[/quote]

Yep, after Garnett either ILB or S whoever the best player at that position is available, also need to DL to replace Hatcher (would love one more year out of him). Can you imagine Garnett on the L, Sherff on the R.
Those 2 are serious maulers, no one would fuck with us.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1132027]Yep, after Garnett either ILB or S whoever the best player at that position is available, also need to DL to replace Hatcher (would love one more year out of him). Can you imagine Garnett on the L, Sherff on the R.

Those 2 are serious maulers, no one would fuck with us.[/QUOTE]


I have faith in SM.

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7 picks, 7 positions I think are priority in no particular order. And not saying they won't or shouldn't pick 2 at same position or sign free agents instead:

TE
LG
C
WR (don't think they'll keep Jackson and Garcon)
OLB
ILB
S

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1132014]You must take injuries into account the same way you take better play than you expected.
My point was simply that the team you expected to win 6-7 games probably will. It isnt a knock on you or anyone else on the board. Sorry if you take it as one. All that "better play" than you expected must be a result of coaching up the young guys which bodes very well for a young team on the rise.
Just for the record I expected to win last night in a big way. I completely underrated Dallas D. However I am trying to look at the season as a whole. If we finish with 8-9 wins I will consider it a huge success. I already consider it a success for one reason alone. This team would destroy last years team which means that under the current regime we are making strides. I dont give a shit about same old redskins chatter because it is not fair to compare this team to any other in Skins history except last years team. New players, coaches, gm. This is year two. Next year I expect to see a team that would lay this one to waste. HTTR
Edit : i never felt that way when Shanny, Zorn, Gibbs 2.0 were here. Never felt we were building the rite way. This offseason is the biggest offseason for this team in years imo.[/QUOTE]


Can't disagree with anything here. Pissed we didn't fight harder last night but losing hurts a bit more now because we know we are more competitive and actually have the potential to win most weeks.

We need ILB help. After getting roasted by Lee, the contrast was huge (although none of our LBs was particularly disruptive).


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[QUOTE=calia;1132047]Can't disagree with anything here. Pissed we didn't fight harder last night but losing hurts a bit more now because we know we are more competitive and actually have the potential to win most weeks.

We need ILB help. After getting roasted by Lee, the contrast was huge (although none of our LBs was particularly disruptive).


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Need ILB help in the worst way. The more i think about it the more i want that to be our number one priority in the offseason.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1132025]Garnett is the best LG in college who happens to play at Stanford where many Current OL have come out of. Mack went to Cal and is a proven pro. We make those moves it's back to the hog glory years. We will have the cash next year, Morris can be resigned on the cheap after 2 subpar years.[/quote]

If Gruden is coming back there is 0 chance that Morris is resigned. It's painfully obvious that he doesn't like Morris.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1132027]Yep, after Garnett either ILB or S whoever the best player at that position is available, also need to DL to replace Hatcher (would love one more year out of him). Can you imagine Garnett on the L, Sherff on the R.
Those 2 are serious maulers, no one would fuck with us.[/quote]

Like you, I feel that we need to finish the OL build.You mentioned Alex Mack. I would be 100% on board with signing him but are you sure he will be a FA?

As for DL, signing Muhammad Wilkerson as a FA would be perfect for me.

I think that Mason Foster showed us on Monday how much we need more speed at the LB positions. I've always liked Foster as a player and I hopes he sticks around as part of our ILB rotation.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1132020]I've been a Gruden defender, but last night's game really pissed me off.

I hated the offensive game plan, and the play calling.

Gruden and McVay don't go back to plays or concepts that work or burn teams.

They were killing them with boot, and short passing game.

I guess it was working too well so they need to mix it up? SMH.

If it's working, DO IT, DON'T STOP DOING IT.

EDIT:

Just heard Cooley throw out the stat that we ran the ball 75% on 1st down at 1.8 yards per carry.

I really don't understand this staff sometimes. At times they seem dynamic and innovative and last night they seemed dumb.[/quote]

I agree 100%.

I'm on the fence about Gruden and here's why:

On the positive side, I think that the team plays hard for him and that he and his position coaches are doing a good job of developing young talent.

On the other hand, I think that his too-conservative and very predictable play-calling is holding back the team, as you described.

Gruden has his flaws, yet I hate the idea of going through yet another HC change. I'm wondering if SM could step in and make it work with Gruden as HC by insisting that Gruden hire an experienced and successful OC to call the plays and spice up the offense next season.

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Therein lies the dilemma though. Do you fire a coach go who's scheme itself seems solid, but the play calling is questionable? Is there a way to address the play calling itself without making changes in staff?

This was one of my main issues with Kyle SHanahan being his daddy's underling. I actually quite liked Kyle's scheme concepts, however I felt he wasn't the greatest at calling plays in certain situations and I always felt that maybe his dad and him bumped heads with their philosophy and approach. I really would have liked to see what Kyle could have done without having to get approval from his daddy.

Re: F$ck Dallas! Game thread
 

Our predictable tendencies are dictated by injuries and the lack of a few competencies at key positions. You've seen Jordan Reed get flagged a million times when trying to block. He sucks at it, doesn't get his feet into proper position to allow a powerful engagement. We don't have TEs that can block well, so we put Compton in as a 2nd TE and that just absolutely gives away that we're running.

The Niles Paul injury has been extremely costly. He was going to be our do-it-all TE. Then when we lost both Steiger and Lauvao we find ourselves getting beat in the interior too often. We set the edge pretty well - Trent and Moses do well there and Scherff is getting to the 2nd level well. But too often we give up penetration in the middle between LeRib and Long.

We can't run between the tackles because of them, everything goes to the edge. Again, too much of a tendency, but what can Jay do?

McC is doing a great job building depth but we simply need more. Give him a few more drafts and this thing might look pretty good. I don't think Jay would have the same tendencies if he had some core competencies on the field.