Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?
 

[quote=SkinzWin;1275064]How about this then?

Cooley on Kyle Smith via @SheehanPodcast: “Ron wanted nothing to do with anyone that shook hands with Bruce Allen in that building, they are all gone....[B]Bruce Allen culture, See ya![/B]”[/quote]

When phrased that way I'm all for any move Ron makes.

What happens with Kyle Smith?
 

Kyle Smith may stay this year but eventually (or sooner) will be offered a higher job or more money else where.

Rivera doesn’t care about whether a coach or scout or executive shook hands with Bruce Allen’s. What he’s absolutely worried about is someone who is a SPY or DOUBLE AGENT beholden in some way to DAN SNYDER. Snyder’s terrible personnel decisions have consistently destroyed any chance for this team to do well. Even with good or outstanding HC like Gibbs or Shannihan they couldn’t overcome Snyder’s piss poor draft and FA decisions -all made through his surrogate GM -whether Allen or Cerrato. Yes, occasionally the team did draft very good players like our DL. But drafting the first round is pretty easy because they’re ALL the very top players in college.

It will be sad to see Kyle Smith go, when it eventually happens. But I believe Rivera is worried about Snyder trying to worm his way back into the personnel decision-making circle. Especially on the sly. Better to be over-cautious then let Danny back into the decision-loop. The Haskins choice, which may go down as the BIGGEST DRAFT BUST of ALL TIME, is just another in the very, very long list of terrible draft picks or FA busts by Snyder.


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Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?
 

[QUOTE=SkinzWin;1275064]How about this then?



Cooley on Kyle Smith via @SheehanPodcast: “Ron wanted nothing to do with anyone that shook hands with Bruce Allen in that building, they are all gone....Bruce Allen culture, See ya!”[/QUOTE]Well, in terms of sources Cooley is 100 times better than Russell or LaCanfora, and notice that Cooley's actually gives a reason as opposed to simply making a baseless statement based on speculation.

And Warthog, your speculation about DS moles is valid too. I think Ron is going to bring in people that have zero allegiance outside of the team and potentially to Ron.

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Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?
 

[quote=SkinzWin;1275064]How about this then?

Cooley on Kyle Smith via @SheehanPodcast: “Ron wanted nothing to do with anyone that shook hands with Bruce Allen in that building, they are all gone....Bruce Allen culture, See ya!”[/quote]

Hard to disagree with that.

My thing is, Kyle Smith and the scouts are the ones who set the board for this year's draft. Hence why most scouting personnel changes are done after the draft. If you're doing it now, does it upset the draft board? What about all the work they put in?

Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?
 

[quote=mooby;1275091]Hard to disagree with that.

My thing is, Kyle Smith and the scouts are the ones who set the board for this year's draft. Hence why most scouting personnel changes are done after the draft. If you're doing it now, does it upset the draft board? What about all the work they put in?[/quote]

I’m assuming the new hires have their own boards and have been actively scouting. I’d also assume K. Smith’s board is deemed property of the organization, and stays with the team.

So if they want to go over his list I’m sure they can while still having their own.

Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?
 

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1275083]Well, in terms of sources Cooley is 100 times better than Russell or LaCanfora, and notice that Cooley's actually gives a reason as opposed to simply making a baseless statement based on speculation.

And Warthog, your speculation about DS moles is valid too. I think Ron is going to bring in people that have zero allegiance outside of the team and potentially to Ron.

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I think Cooley is an outstanding source and analyst.

Rivera wants people who are loyal to HIM. He’s right, because if the team continues to keep winning, Snyder will undoubtedly try to get back into the personnel decision-making process if he can. Dan Snyder can’t do anything publicly to get into micromanaging the team like he used to. But offering money, on the side, could get Dan Snyder back into the process.

Maybe we’ll be lucky and the NFL owners may force Snyder to sell. We’ll see. I’m starting to get more pessimistic of the chances that the other NFL owners will force Snyder to sell. It really depends on the other accusers and what they charge Snyder with.


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Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?
 

[quote=Warthog;1275118]I think Cooley is an outstanding source and analyst.

Rivera wants people who are loyal to HIM. He’s right, because if the team continues to keep winning, Snyder will undoubtedly try to get back into the personnel decision-making process if he can. Dan Snyder can’t do anything publicly to get into micromanaging the team like he used to. But offering money, on the side, could get Dan Snyder back into the process.

Maybe we’ll be lucky and the NFL owners may force Snyder to sell. We’ll see. I’m starting to get more pessimistic of the chances that the other NFL owners will force Snyder to sell. It really depends on the other accusers and what they charge Snyder with.

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Are you saying that if the team continues on a winning trajectory that Dan Snyder will eventually bribe someone to "get back into the personnel decision-making process?"

I don't even know what you mean by that...

Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?
 

[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1275131]Are you saying that if the team continues on a winning trajectory that Dan Snyder will eventually bribe someone to "get back into the personnel decision-making process?"

I don't even know what you mean by that...[/quote]

This is exactly how I read it too.

Imagine Dan pleading with Ron "listen, I'll double your salary if you'll allow me input into the roster building process. Please!" hahaha

Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?
 

[quote=mooby;1275139]This is exactly how I read it too.

Imagine Dan pleading with Ron "listen, I'll double your salary if you'll allow me input into the roster building process. Please!" hahaha[/quote]

I can see it now. Ron’s stone cold response, “If you want to get back into personnel decisions Dan, try jacking off to a Mel Kiper video from last year’s draft to get your rocks off”. And then turns and walks away.

Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?
 

Per @wfteamtoday

“ The Falcons are hiring Kyle Smith for the same role he had in Washington. Atlanta got a good one.”

Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?
 

Good for him. ATL heading for a dynasty now.

; )

Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?
 

[quote=MTK;1275896]Good for him. ATL heading for a dynasty now.

; )[/quote]

Laugh all you want, watch their draft vs ours, that will tell you. He also took 3 scouts with him.

Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?
 

[quote=SkinzWin;1275895]Per @wfteamtoday

“ The Falcons are hiring Kyle Smith for the same role he had in Washington. Atlanta got a good one.”[/quote]

Wait, not for GM, man what a bogus hire!!!

Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?
 

Idk why we need to diss him on the way out. Is it possible he's good at his job? Yes. Is it possible he wasn't a good fit with Ron? Also yes. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Good luck to him, and I hope we're not regretting this 3 years from now.

Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;1275899]Laugh all you want, watch their draft vs ours, that will tell you. He also took 3 scouts with him.[/quote]

Maybe or maybe not, but ATL didn't upgrade his position, that says something about all the fuss and commotion on this site. There were several GM/FO jobs that could have netted him a promotion, but at least as far as was publicized, he wasn't a candidate at any of those spots.