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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;904126]I don't see how you can look at pre-draft Luck vs. Newton and say Newton is superior but to each his own. I will say I think RG3 vs "Killa" Cam will be a next generation QB rivalry a la Manning vs Brady.[/quote]

Sky is the limit for CAM, he's one of the most talented QBs thats ever came around, as for RGIII vs Luck? I think both are going to be good to great for years to come

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Sky's the limit for Cam, Luck, and Griffin.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;904126]I don't see how you can look at pre-draft Luck vs. Newton and say Newton is superior but to each his own.[/quote]Likewise.
Elite arm talent, velocity, deep ball, throwing motion.
Elite size, build, durability, athleticism, speed, playmaking.
Leadership, charisma, work ethic, coachability.

Question:
Do you think Luck is gonna have as good a rookie year as Newton?

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[url=http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/02/20/ranking-the-2012-free-agents-offensive-tackles/]Ranking the 2012 Free Agents: Offensive Tackles | ProFootballFocus.com[/url]
[QUOTE]Ranking the 2012 Free Agents: Offensive Tackles

2) Demetrius Bell, Buffalo Bills

Age as of 1st September, 2012: 28

2011 Grade: +6.8

Key Stat: Allowed pressure only once every 28 pass plays in 2011, up from 13.6 in 2010.

Behind the Number: Playing under a restricted free agent tag in 2011, Bell looked to be putting together the classic “contract season” performance until it was curtailed by injury. To his credit, Bell didn’t slip into poor performances of the past in a three-game stint at the end of the season, but is 401 snaps of true quality enough for a team to invest in him long term? Bell was Jason Peters’ replacement after he bolted for Philadelphia, but he was slow to repay the Bills’ faith in him. He has taken large strides since his first season as a starter in 2009 drastically reducing his pressures allowed and penalties conceded through 2010 and 2011. Another big stride in 2012 would see Bell join the league’s Top 10 left tackles. If multiple teams see that as a real possibility Bell’s market value could rise when free agency opens.[/QUOTE]
Please, please, please.....

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[QUOTE=30gut;904136]Likewise.

Elite arm talent, velocity, deep ball, throwing motion.

Elite size, build, durability, athleticism, speed, playmaking.

Leadership, charisma, work ethic, coachability.



Question:

Do you think Luck is gonna have as good a rookie year as Newton?[/QUOTE]



No. Cam's rookie season stats wise was nothing short of a virtuoso performance. I can only compare it to the way Big Ben hit the scene. I think Griffin will have the better rookie season but the three of these guys will be NFL faces for their careers. My predictions for rookie seasons:

Luck 3,300 yards 20 TDs 14 Ints 3 rush TDs (5-11)
Griffin 3,500 yards 20 TDs 12 Ints 7 rush TDs (9-7)

Griffin, as with Newton will have the better supporting cast but neither will hit Newton's 4,000 rookie record.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;904138]No. Cam's rookie season stats wise was nothing short of a virtuoso performance. I can only compare it to the way Big Ben hit the scene. I think Griffin will have the better rookie season but the three of these guys will be NFL faces for their careers. My predictions for rookie seasons:

Luck 3,300 yards 20 TDs 14 Ints 3 rush TDs (5-11)
Griffin 3,500 yards 20 TDs 12 Ints 7 rush TDs (9-7)

Griffin, as with Newton will have the better supporting cast but neither will hit Newton's 4,000 rookie record.[/quote]

Luck doesn't throw INT's, i say less than 10 interceptions.

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^ He's a rookie. He'll throw 10. Hell he threw 10 interceptions THIS year.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;904139]Luck doesn't throw INT's, i say less than 10 interceptions.[/quote]


Actually I think Luck will have around 15 Td passes and 12 Ints or so.. I can see RG3 at around 25 Total Td's because he can run for 5-7 or maybe more.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;904120]Although I have my preference for Robert Griffin III, I'm with you. I wouldn't mind drafting Andrew Luck either. I saw both of these young men play last year and they both were the best in the nation playing the quarterback position. Jim Irsay has a decision to make. If he opts to take RG3 then I'll be disappointed, but I'll also be very elated for the Redskins to land the young quarterback out of Stanford.[/quote]

Seriously. Why is this even a discussion? If by chance the Colts somehow magically decide to take RG3, we should be ECSTATIC. Most of us have been DYING to get Luck for the past 2 years, and now he's our second option and a let-down? We should feel comfortable with either in our system, and rest assured we have landed a top caliber prospect at QB.

Seems that ppl have fallen in love with the idea of RG3, partly because RG3's personality seems more magnetic. He's such a marketable prospect that would light up the big stage of Washington DC with his socks alone.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;904142]^ He's a rookie. He'll throw 10. Hell he threw 10 interceptions THIS year.[/quote]

He's not your typical rookie, neither is Griffin who also has a low INT ratio.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;904142]^ He's a rookie. He'll throw 10. Hell he threw 10 interceptions THIS year.[/quote]

Both Griffin and Luck are no longer facing NCAA defenses. They are ready to step into the NFL where defenses are much more advanced and where defensive players are much more elite. Both of them will have their fair share of INTs. If Luck threw only 10 at Stanford last year, then he'll toss at least 15 picks as a rookie this year. RG3 only threw six picks last year at Baylor. But look for that number to climb to 12 to 14 in his rookie season. Both of these quarterbacks did an excellent job of protecting the football on the collegiate level last year. But the NFL is not the collegiate level.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;904146]He's not your typical rookie, neither is Griffin who also has a low INT ratio.[/QUOTE]




True but for either of them to come in and throw 20TDs and lets say 6 Ints would be some magical stuff.

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As talented as Luck is, he has no talent whatsoever around him...except maybe Reggie Wayne. The Colts have no running game, their o-line stinks, and so does their defense. It will be interesting to see what he is able to do with such a meh roster.

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;904161]As talented as Luck is, he has no talent whatsoever around him...except maybe Reggie Wayne. The Colts have no running game, their o-line stinks, and so does their defense. It will be interesting to see what he is able to do with such a meh roster.[/QUOTE]

Sam has the same problem in stl so let's see if luck is really that much better

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[quote=skinsfaninok;904164]Sam has the same problem in stl so let's see if luck is really that much better[/quote]

Yeah but at least Bradford had Stephen Jackson in St. Louis. Granted that he wasn't in his prime, but he is much better than any RB currently in the Colts roster. I'll be curious to see how Bradford does if he gets a #1 WR.