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[url]https://youtu.be/hSlwfFOIZac?si=hAr34dldNslTMK3L[/url]

Greg Cosell (sr. producer at NFL Films) being very complimentary of Sam Howell.

He is getting love from the media, just not from the big names yet. I agree with them. Howell has his flaws but they are fixable.

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When Howell has a full season under his belt he should be a lot better, interested to see how he develops between now and then

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Jason Kelce "When Howell is on he's hard to stop"

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[quote=jamf;1350976]You guys comparing Howell and Mahomes?
SH threw 52 check down passes last game.

Sam is playing twinkle twinkle little star on piano while Pat is Mozart.
One is not like the other.

The pat you should be comparing him to is sack machine Patrick Ramsey.[/quote]

That dime TD to McLaurin was w/ out question a check down. (roll eyes)

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If you look at QB's drafted last year, you can argue Sam is better than all of them.

Pickett 1st round
Willis 3rd round
Zappe 4th round
Purdy 7th round
Ridder 3rd round

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I've said it before, but I'll say it again, given the less than ideal conditions Sam has operated under, he has looked more than capable of being a really good NFL QB. Imagine if he had a better O-line, a defense that could stop someone, and an OC that didn't have runningameophobia.

I don't mind drafting a QB in the later rounds in 2024. I think that would probably make sense if there's one there that [I]they[/I] would like to develop. However, if Sam continues to impress and doesn't show any weaknesses that aren't coachable, I'm not a huge fan of the idea of trading up for a QB at the top of the draft.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1351005]I've said it before, but I'll say it again, given the less than ideal conditions Sam has operated under, he has looked more than capable of being a really good NFL QB. Imagine if he had a better O-line, a defense that could stop someone, and an OC that didn't have runningameophobia.

I don't mind drafting a QB in the later rounds in 2024. I think that would probably make sense if there's one there that [I]they[/I] would like to develop. However, if Sam continues to impress and doesn't show any weaknesses that aren't coachable, I'm not a huge fan of the idea of trading up for a QB at the top of the draft.[/quote]

Agreed on most, if not all, points.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1351001]That dime TD to McLaurin was w/ out question a check down. (roll eyes)[/quote]

Jamf has oil in his eye balls, he can't see that well lol.

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I have a high opinion of Greg Cosell as an evaluator of NFL talent. Greg said "I would definitely be staying with Sam Howell" and I feel somewhat reassured by that.

Speaking of young QBs, I thought Will Levis looked very good against the Steelers defense Thursday night.

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Will Levis > Sam Howell

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[quote=mredskins;1351015]Will Levis > Sam Howell[/quote]

LOL. After two games against mediocre teams you have come to that conclusion? Ok.

Maybe you're right, but I think I'd give it a few more games...

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1351005]I've said it before, but I'll say it again, given the less than ideal conditions Sam has operated under, he has looked more than capable of being a really good NFL QB. Imagine if he had a better O-line, a defense that could stop someone, and an OC that didn't have runningameophobia.

I don't mind drafting a QB in the later rounds in 2024. I think that would probably make sense if there's one there that [I]they[/I] would like to develop. However, if Sam continues to impress and doesn't show any weaknesses that aren't coachable, I'm not a huge fan of the idea of trading up for a QB at the top of the draft.[/quote]

Agreed, and why is there this obsession with the idea that an incoming HC will want his own QB? Coaches have come into the job and retained an incumbent QB, and many have had success.

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[quote=mredskins;1351015]Will Levis > Sam Howell[/quote]

Ha, masterful

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Here is some truth … We are in the best position since Cousins at the QB position and I’m thinking Sam has a higher ceiling than Cousins ..remember we have NO Running game that scares anyone .. every single D we face knows we are gonna pass .. and pass ! We got RR running the show .. we got a D that has collapsed.. a Suspect Oline … and YET Sam is raising eyebrows with his play … yes he has some gaffs but even the best do … have I said anything that’s not true … correct me if I have !

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[quote=rocnrik;1351019]Here is some truth … We are in the best position since Cousins at the QB position and I’m thinking Sam has a higher ceiling than Cousins ..remember we have NO Running game that scares anyone .. every single D we face knows we are gonna pass .. and pass ! We got RR running the show .. we got a D that has collapsed.. a Suspect Oline … and YET Sam is raising eyebrows with his play … yes he has some gaffs but even the best do … have I said anything that’s not true … correct me if I have ![/quote]

Hope you are right about Howell having a higher ceiling than Cousins because that would put him into the Mahomes, Allen, Burrow territory.

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[quote=mredskins;1351015]Will Levis > Sam Howell[/quote]

Get some glasses.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1351005]I've said it before, but I'll say it again, given the less than ideal conditions Sam has operated under, he has looked more than capable of being a really good NFL QB. Imagine if he had a better O-line, a defense that could stop someone, and an OC that didn't have runningameophobia.

I don't mind drafting a QB in the later rounds in 2024. I think that would probably make sense if there's one there that [I]they[/I] would like to develop. However, if Sam continues to impress and doesn't show any weaknesses that aren't coachable, I'm not a huge fan of the idea of trading up for a QB at the top of the draft.[/quote]

Exactly!! I’ve been saying he’s the second coming of Joey T

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1350994]Jason Kelce "When Howell is on he's hard to stop"[/quote]

Howell can impress the Kelce brothers and Darius Slay but not Jamf or mredskins. [url]https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/03/eagles-center-jason-and-travis-kelce-have-high-praise-for-commanders-qb-sam-howell-chiefs-new-heights-podcast/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0cNkgdRmILA7QEagjM60H3Jh3LLLNq20FLYHtusyP14AdCXG-Whc6vXOw_aem_AX5IalDY7XPKJU1upYRKpdzlC44PU9qGMpsarsRotefjJvOmt8trVfpYTmyYKzZFP9k&mibextid=Zxz2cZ#lok7hu334wheyq360ed[/url]

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If I'm Harris I'm not betting my house on Howell just yet, but if the new GM/HC combo believe they can work with/improve him and prefer to fill the other roster holes instead of pursuing yet another QB in the draft, I'm 💯 behind them. Even if Howell has a top 10 ceiling at best, they're not going to have a winning roster by giving up picks to chase another QB.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1351035]Howell can impress the Kelce brothers and Darius Slay but not [B]Jamf or mredskins. [/B][url]https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/03/eagles-center-jason-and-travis-kelce-have-high-praise-for-commanders-qb-sam-howell-chiefs-new-heights-podcast/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0cNkgdRmILA7QEagjM60H3Jh3LLLNq20FLYHtusyP14AdCXG-Whc6vXOw_aem_AX5IalDY7XPKJU1upYRKpdzlC44PU9qGMpsarsRotefjJvOmt8trVfpYTmyYKzZFP9k&mibextid=Zxz2cZ#lok7hu334wheyq360ed[/url][/quote]

Imagine two people living rent free in your head on the internet over whether or not a 23 year old boy will some day be a hall of fame QB? Sad.

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Don’t over think it. on the road at Gillette versus Bill Belichick defense who is knee deep in the defense play calls

Nice game Sam

The dimes were the fade to Terry (great catch) on 3rd and long against the side line, the two scramble throws to Pringle (one on third down), the throw to Brown in the end zone…perfect location…right between his hands…and of course the perfect td throw to JD.

And how about the long run for the conversation on 3rd down?

Guy is tough, clearly better than Jones

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A few weeks ago I was ready to see what JB could do, any maybe give Sam some time to clear his head. Now, it's looking more and more like he's someone we can build around for next year. He's been very impressive these last few weeks no doubt.

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[quote=MTK;1351266]A few weeks ago I was ready to see what JB could do, any maybe give Sam some time to clear his head. Now, it's looking more and more like he's someone we can build around for next year. He's been very impressive these last few weeks no doubt.[/quote]

The crazy thing to me is people giving up on him before he's played a full season in his pro career - he's more than shown enough flashes this early one to deserve the entire season (and now more at this point).

The key is showing improvement week-to-week and he's done that.

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Yesterday he put the offense on his back, that shows he can be that QB1 we need. He played lights out other than one bad pass.

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Yesterday he put the offense on his back, that shows he can be that QB1 we need. He played lights out other than one bad pass.

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Sam Howell vs. the Patriots blitz:

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139 yards
1 TD / 0 INTs
113.0 passer rating

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Wow that's impressive.. I cannot remember exactly which game, but I think it was right at the beginning of the Giants game, the announcers showed Howell's stats - he played better when under pressured.. Other than the Giants game where he was swarmed by Giants throughout the game, he handled the pressure pretty well.

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[quote=Chico23231;1351263]Don’t over think it. on the road at Gillette versus Bill Belichick defense who is knee deep in the defense play calls

Nice game Sam

[B]The dimes were the fade to Terry (great catch) on 3rd and long against the side line,[/B] the two scramble throws to Pringle (one on third down), the throw to Brown in the end zone…perfect location…right between his hands…and of course the perfect td throw to JD.

And how about the long run for the conversation on 3rd down?

Guy is tough, clearly better than Jones[/quote]

I am going to give Terry most of the credit on that catch. Sam threw off his back foot and it kind of floated. Quality route running by Terry made it a moot issue because he gaped the db but if it was tighter coverage it is probably not a completion.

[url]https://twitter.com/ChadwikoTWW/status/1721257563902345506[/url]

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Sam's scramble for the first down to was impressive

He is definitely starting to go through his progressions quicker

Sam > Mac

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Mac Jones is so mid

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Pats don't have a QB they can win with. They need to fix that before next season.

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@John_Keim
In the last five games, Sam Howell has thrown for 1,510 yards -- most in the NFL. He also has thrown for 10 TDs during this time, tied for most.

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One other thing to like about Sam, and I don't want to jinx him, is if you consider how many times he has been sacked and his number off fumbles is so low.

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Second in the league in yards. Not too shabby.

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Sam is all dog

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Sam’s HC didn’t do him any favors with clock management around the int sequence


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Sam can call timeouts too. That INT was terrible and 100% on him. Good thing is there's not much else he did wrong, and he didn't dwell on it...just came back and played really well.

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[quote=HTTR;1351315]Sam’s HC didn’t do him any favors with clock management around the int sequence


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Yeah, and with more experience he'll learn that he can and should burn a timeout himself in those situations in future. Just tell the coach he didn't like what he saw from the D and take any fallout on the chin.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1351317]Sam can call timeouts too. That INT was terrible and 100% on him. Good thing is there's not much else he did wrong, and he didn't dwell on it...just came back and played really well.[/quote]

He's definitely a mentally tough kid. And he consistently assumes no less than half the blame, even if we all know it's often not like that with our line for most of the season.

Guys like playing with him. And I bet that's a huge part of it. Very impressive for a 2nd year player. It even rubs off on the defense: See J.A. talking about Howell.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1351319]He's definitely a mentally tough kid. And he consistently assumes no less than half the blame, even if we all know it's often not like that with our line for most of the season.

Guys like playing with him. And I bet that's a huge part of it. Very impressive for a 2nd year player. It even rubs off on the defense: See J.A. talking about Howell.[/quote]

His toughness comes from having played as a LB and S in HS.